Withdrawals From Soma, Morphine, Xanax, Oxycodone - Help Please (Page 9)
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I have been in pain management for years, lost my doctor along with other patients, and primary won't fill or says she can't and messes up my progress to get in new pain management in time. Now I'm losing Soma, was 3 times a day, now I have 7 tabs left. Was on 45 mg of morphine 3 times, oxycodone 15s and xanax 5 mg 3 times a day. Which she said she can not write for. Why, if she knew or thought this pain clinic was prescribing more than standard, did she never say a word until i had to go to her in desperation for this? Your primary that has to refer you and get info to get into a new pain clinic, I have very serious health issues no one is dealing with, I feel alone and suicidal. I even told my doctor and the old pain clinic staff that left, and not a bit of help, yet they know i have a history of heart failure, bleeds in brain from pain issues. No one cares, our country is falling apart and i asked again today for something for bp and high pulse, got nothing for it but a nurse, they did not send in the info two times that could have had me in pain management by now, and in having the colostomy i had to postpone since I wont do it with out pain mgmt on board.
Today they cut me back more 1 soma for a few days then no more, oxycodone 10mg 3 times to be cut on mon again and morphine cut from 45 3 x to 3o 2 times. All i can do is cry and sleep then cry more then no food, not drinking, feel horrible, and have lost desire to live and fight. These doctors put all on others and not one seems to care or no what to do with all of us real pain patients. I just want to die at this point for i am so tired of suffering and its only going to get worse. I feel so bad for all of the posts i have seen and know im not alone. All i see is the same four walls every day, go no where and before i felt i had some reason to fight and live to fight cancer and even cancer doc can not help get you in pain mang. They said today it will take at least 8 weeks to get in and ill be dead then or out of meds in a stroke etc. That is my biggest fear. Have had 3 bleeds in brain from this and pain is no joke.
The nurse said today we all are paying for those that dr shop and are addicted and i said i thought even addiction is a matter that needs treatment. They counted my tabs. I take drugs panels, did nothing wrong and most of my pain is caused from docs that did botched surgeries and cancer and injury from accident. I dont no what we all can do or if there is hope but it does not do good to ask on this site if someone knows where to get meds. Its not just docs its insurances companies and pharmacies. It's all getting way too much and hard for even a well person to figure out. I am ready to go home to my maker and wish he would take me soon. I am so tired of the lack of proper dr care in our country and its so sad i feel and pray for you all i want to know who is going to be responsible when i die or end up in a stroke due to this. Xanax withdrawals will be the worst too for i had them before for you can not sleep to escape the torture and they only get worse with time unlike opiates most docs dont seem to know this. I guess i have heart rate of 139 now and bp 200 over 133.
If you are having withdrawals and have no doctor, you need to go to the hospital & bring your prescription bottles with you so you can show them that you are not abusing anything. It's not the doctors but it's the government that is putting pressure on the doctors to stop prescribing. All the meds you are taking is running rampant out in the streets. But if you are having physical problems for lack of these meds, you need to get help. Go to the ER as soon as possible. Not having any medication is just as bad.
I don't understand, what illness do you have? Cancer or...? Withdrawal should be gradual, not all at once .... Try changing doctors, hospital, etc... Wish you all the best!
OPANA ER 30 twice a day IS AWESOME for me. I was on Methadone/Morphine/Ms Contin/ and Percocet not Norco 10/325/ TopAMAX 100 and Cymbalta 60 TR works great for my pain!! I have Lupus SLE, Sjogrens, Fibro- 24 hr pain - flares are a killer. Opana goes up to 40 I believe! Ihighly Recommend!! May the LORDGuide and direct you all and if you don't know Jesus call out to Him bc His Redemption is ANY DAY NOW My Friends!!! Much Love and Blessings in Christ Jesus!!
And now as of Sept 30th...the DEA has BANNED kratom. The FIRST all natural pain relieving, withdrawal symptoms relieving, herb out there. Seriously want to cry!! Why?! Methadone, suboxone, all legal, highly addictive...CHEMICALS. But without further study....BANNED it!!! I ordered a small supply. All I can afford... and hope I'll be weaned off oxy. totally before it's gone. 14 deaths "kratom related", meaning it was combined with something else and made toxic....this in 2 YEARS time. Yet legal OPIATES 78 o.d. a day, that's per DAY. 7 per year VS 78 a day. Watch what's going to happen when all the people using Kratom legally can no longer get it, people recovering from opioid / opiate addiction using kratom instead.....it literally makes me sick to my stomach.....the DEADLINE is totally wrong, just wrong.
You're absolutely right! I work for a company that supplies Veterinarians with all of the medicines they use and the majority of them are just weaker versions of all the medicines that we take. That includes narcotics such as Valium, and Alprazolam. I have been taking benzodiazepines for 15 years becaus of general anxiety disorder, and panic attacks and I recently asked my doctor for an increase in dosage on my Clonazepam that I've been on for 7 years and he dismissed me by stating that I need to ask a psychiatrist. The only problem is that my psychiatrist stopped giving them to me.
True cause the docs make their money four different places the pain docs so they don't card how they leave patients that really need them cause they go somewhere else and start another pain ct up closer to where they live plus keep the others it shouldn't be right to cut ppl off meds and shut the doors.
I have been taking some up for 10 years now and I have built up quite a tolerance to it. And yes 100% I have had the same thing as you or I become incoherent my husband says I become quote on quote absent and yes I do with draw from it but that is one medication that does help me it helps me tremendously and my doctor does not have a problem writing it for me I don't abuse them not at all but when my pain gets to the point where I can't take it anymore and I feel like I'm ready to just die I will take three at once and sometimes a little more but yes I totally know what you mean but I always try to keep in mind that yes they're dangerous is a muscle relaxer your heart is a muscle and it can't stop your heart so I do keep in mind that I hope this helps
Couldn't believe that dogs gets meds for panic,chronic pain,muscle aches with no questions asked but when a human such as me go to pcp for help from chronic pain,cancer pain panic attacks they look at you like you a nutshell can't understand.
LINUS: If you are going the amino acid route, GABA and DPA can also be very helpful. I have recently been turned on to a product called Synaptamine. It is an amino acid blend that uses nano-technology to cross the blood/brain barrier very effectively.
I know this is not the answer but it will help tremendously. Loperamide and L Tyrosine will help with withdrawal. Almost to the point that you will be amazed. I ran out out of meds
A few moths back after taking hydrocodone for over 9 years. A friend told me about this so I figured what the hell. Withdrawal scares the hell outta me. This worked so good! You do have to take alot of the loperamide but it was well with it. Try it I'm 100% sure it will help.
Grandma,go to the news,make ur plea known, this new management has a boss,
Sounds horrible what you are going through. If worse comes to worse you could always check into a recovery clinic. Even though I know you aren't an addict. But they will help with withdrawals. Not the best option but it's an option. Good luck. God bless
Dale,
My doctor who prescribes my benzo's told me about this news coming from the FDA and DEA, So this is true and it is going to affect all of us.
For those talking about being prescribed both opioids and benzodiazepenes, it does seem like doctors are going to be much more conservative with the combination of the two moving forward. This comes directly from the FDA. Who else has been affected by this?
" FDA warns about serious risks and death when combining opioid pain or cough medicines with benzodiazepines; requires its strongest warning
A U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) review has found that the growing combined use of opioid medicines with benzodiazepines or other drugs that depress the central nervous system (CNS) has resulted in serious side effects, including slowed or difficult breathing and deaths. Opioids are used to treat pain and cough; benzodiazepines are used to treat anxiety, insomnia, and seizures. In an effort to decrease the use of opioids and benzodiazepines, or opioids and other CNS depressants, together, we are adding Boxed Warnings, our strongest warnings, to the drug labeling of prescription opioid pain and prescription opioid cough medicines, and benzodiazepines.
Health care professionals should limit prescribing opioid pain medicines with benzodiazepines or other CNS depressants only to patients for whom alternative treatment options are inadequate. If these medicines are prescribed together, limit the dosages and duration of each drug to the minimum possible while achieving the desired clinical effect. Warn patients and caregivers about the risks of slowed or difficult breathing and/or sedation, and the associated signs and symptoms. Avoid prescribing prescription opioid cough medicines for patients taking benzodiazepines or other CNS depressants, including alcohol.
Patients taking opioids with benzodiazepines, other CNS depressant medicines, or alcohol, and caregivers of these patients, should seek medical attention immediately if they or someone they are caring for experiences symptoms of unusual dizziness or lightheadedness, extreme sleepiness, slowed or difficult breathing, or unresponsiveness. Unresponsiveness means that the person doesn’t answer or react normally or you can’t wake them up. Talk with your health care professional if you have questions or concerns about taking opioids or benzodiazepines. "
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm518473.htm
Your not helping so keep to yourself. These people shouldnt have to go thru hell because this doctor got shutdown.
Just the fact meds chat has to ask what withdrawals people are going through now shows the DEA n Gov. are a bunch of thieving, torturing murderers.
Robin---you are so off base. Addiction knows no prejudice.
The only people to blame is ourselves. All RX drugs come with a warning label. We know the risks associated. The only people to blame is ourselves.
It humors me how many people in this forum somehow believe addicts are homeless sticking a needle in their arm.
Most of the addicts are your middle class average person.
To believe your endless supply of narcotics would never end is ridiculous.
Since when is it a shock that benzodiazepines and opiates shouldn't mix? Maybe you're one of the lucky ones who haven't had an issue but they do cause major complications.
It appears there are so many people that are in complete denial.
Thank Haslam and Obama. They are the ones that's behind all this. I hope the ones that helped get these laws passed suffer 10 fold what we are and can't get a Tylenol to their mouths. Karma comes to all.
MRJ,
So this is true? No benzo's with opiates, this is a joke, my doctor who writes for my Valium told me this was coming. What in the heck are all of us going to do? I also never had problems being on the combo of benzo's this is just so frustrating and not fair, none of us have quality of life. Something has got to be done .
Just wanna give my 2 cents. First off I'm a long time pain management patient, turned addict and been clean 6 years but stay in pain every single day now, I gave up on trying to get a Dr. to help a recovering addict that's had 6 years of clean drug panels with pain. My dr. told me, well three doctors actually, an addiction specialist and Ex methadone clinic Dr and primary doctor said for me to go get back on what I was putting in my arm because they can't write me something - Subutex is a medication that has one less ingredient than the medication I'm on now, Suboxone. Haha TN law gotta love it, I told them I'm just gonna kill myself and be back on street drugs. They just ignored me. Kinda makes you die a little already inside because they rather see you on the street or dead over a misunderstood medication that I was prescribed for 4 years and lived a normal life until they changed the law only in one state LOL but that's a long story that goes nowhere. Ok back to yours and our future. I'm very sorry your going through this but it's the reality now your just one out of god only knows how many that's gonna end up in a methadone clinic, that's if there will be any left because the age of the opiates is over, it's done. Younger people aren't even gonna know what an opiate is, and for the people that are in pain that was around for the Opiate era will either be in rehab or dead. And yes they did this to you, they built up your tolerance to Opiates little by little and out of nowhere pull the rug out from under you and now your a junkie seeking drugs when you ask for a Tylenol and this is coming from the same person that fed you 4 80Mgs a day of OxyContin along with 10Mgs of Percocet 4xs a day 2 years ago. People of the real world are in for a rude awakening. What I mean by real people of importance in the community that's in pain management. I have an aunt that's a retired nurse that's been on that same mixture and yeah she's getting the same treatment as everyone else, it's just now a problem because it's affecting people of importance but guess what they don't care at all especially who you ever are anymore. You're looked at the same as the guy covered with tattoos if you was to mutter a single word about an Op, I mean look around they don't even care for our soldiers that fought for our country. Long story short, save your self time energy. It's never gonna be like it use to be. I'm not saying this in no mean way or disrespectful at all, im just trying to save you the energy and heartache. Prayers and God bless.
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