Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 17)

I am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?

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A depressive episode can be triggered by problems, however, depression is caused by a disease of the brain. Speaking as someone who has been diagnosed with treatment resistant depression, I realize life is short and I will try anything to feel normal again. I want to be happy during the time I have left. I have tried just about every anti-depressants, psychotherapy, ECT treatment, a residential facility for treatment of mood disorders, inpatient care at hospitals, CBT, EMDR, all to no avail. If a prescription for a low dosage of hydrocodone will help me feel normal, even temporarily, I will risk addiction and withdrawal. I have survived bad side effects and severe withdrawal symptoms just from anti-depressants. What's the big deal of enduring one more if I have to. Please think before you speak next time. It's not that simple to enjoy the good moods, when there aren't any no matter how hard I try. I fight my demons all day every day knowing I will have to fight again tomorrow. It's a lonely and exhausting fight. That's why I say I would risk addiction and withdrawal from an opioid. At this point, it may be my only hope because I cannot keep living in my own personal hell.

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The likely long term scenario that I would be concerned with is once you become physically or physiologically addicted the depression will become worse as well as when coming off after the withdrawal phase. I just now recovering from a near ten year addiction to opiates. It was a life crushing, brutal hell filled with severe depression among other horrific symptoms and life altering consequences.
In short, it typically places out like this when trying opiates based on my extensive experience and observing countless others. " they work until they don't then things get very ugly ".
It's not as simple as do they work short term. It's a matter of the hell you may find your life in once addicted. And I mean HELL!. Opiates lure ya in with feelings of relief or euphoria then tolerance grows as does dosage taken then physical dependence then drug seeking behavior to source more drugs all the while depression and other emotional disorders developing along with the addiction.
It took me eight years and over a dozen attempts at treatment to get off opiates as well as the financial losses and major pain the experience caused my family.
Again, today's relief can lead to tomorrow's hell when dealing with opiates.

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SADIESURRENDER read the article Ignorance Kills! I'm not calling you ignorant but the doctors....most who are considered treatment resistant depressives are actually Edogenous deficient and require external opiates not antidepressants....too bad doctors have forgotten the many wonderful Godgiven benefits of poppies.

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Opiate Era is over. You're never gonna get a Dr. to write you for depression. They will hardly give it to someone that's dying now. And I know I am a long time pain management patient turned addict from the drs at first then tolerance oc, morphine and H to being clean 6 years. And I know the system, if you even mutter a Tylenol to a doc now you be kicked out so fast your head will spin. I can't even get the meds I need to live a normal life because of ridiculous laws regarding stuff like this now. My state the only state TN put a law that no one can get subutex anymore just suboxone that has just 1 extra ingredient naloxone and that extra ingredient makes many people terribly sick like me and does nothing for pain for people who are in pain management but addiction too. We are F'ed when it comes to getting what we need but it don't matter because you can't fight the system. I know I tried, I had a normal life for 4 years until they did that law now I'm a shutin that can't do anything at 30 years old. I told the docs I'm gonna pretty much off myself or and be back on street drugs but they acted like they didn't hear me haha. They rather have me out breaking the law and or dead before they give me a med with one less ingredient then the one I'm on now. I know crazy right, you would think they would like the world to get better but Naw it's all about big pharma and what they want them to do and the DEA, but I'm 6 years clean but that don't matter because like I said they don't care.

Long story short it's never gonna happen. Drugs for depression ha get outta here you be lucky to get anything soon unless it's the newest thing big pharma is pushing because they are the dealers. They call the shots and they are getting out the Op business because of the DEA is having their war on Ops. That's just gonna make it worse because all these people that used to be normal. Lawyers, retired nurses, etc, will just be on street drugs. So get ready to have all your Meds changed or no Meds with alternative because that's what it's coming to. Meds will be a thing of the past soon and people that need them will just die off and the kids now will just know the alternative methods but they won't really need them because they will be healthy so yeah. If you really have you heart set on doctors writing you drugs for depression then you need your head checked for some other mental illnesses and yes I have depression, bipolar, anxiety, ADHD, stomach cancer from ulcers and my back scoliosis with other things wrong too with my back. So yeah they ain't giving me anything. I cry and wish I was dead but would pull the Trigg, but I'm a Christian so I won't do it. I don't wanna go to hell so I'm stuck until I get worse enough and maybe just maybe they might let me use hospice when I'm dying and I'm being totally serious. That's how much hope I have.
There's nowhere for me to go. My Docs don't know what kind of dr I should have to get the right meds I need and one is a former methadone clinic dr so if he can't tell me a name or even the type of dr I need then nobody can. So they have nothing for me, so I'm just gonna stay here and keep doing what I do every day wasting away until the lord says its my time.

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GOODLUCKBUTNEVERGONNAHAPPEN,

I too live in TN and feel as you do. Being a Christian we don't have the luxury of pulling the trigger. I went from praying for death to praying for healing or death to just trusting God for healing...I've was doing great on my pain meds and then slowly started withdrawals from life...I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and found that Fentanyl which I was on caused it in menapausal women who are unable to do HRT. I went off Fentanyl and am becoming more myself! My pain doc and other pain docs no longer take my TennCare. I can't find a doc to give me more than 10mgs 4/day when I have twice reduced my usage instead of using increasingly more! If docs would've prescribed them every four hours instead of six (like they were created to be taken) none of this mess would've happened! Docs knew about tolerance! That's the best thing about Oxycodone! You can safely take a higher dose but doctors are p*****s who are all becoming medical w****s! We are to obey the laws of the land unless it conflicts with the word of God...that means the herb bearing seed cannabis Gen 1:29 is okay for us to use as pain relief....not sure bout smoking it but edibles, oils, salads, etc.

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Thank you Spyz for this very interesting tidbit of information. I have never heard of endogenous deficiency never mind the fact that it can be a cause of refractory depression. I have every intention of discussing this with my doctor during my next appointment. If he knew about it, then he allowed me to suffer needlessly for years. Could he have been ignorant of this information or did he keep it from me on purpose? It all boils down to Big Pharma's bottom line. They are an evil, well oiled machine that are only interested in continuing to make their millions, while others like us have a disease with a pretty high mortality rate. Would the doctors not give a cancer patient chemo or a diabetic insulin? I don't think so because Big Pharma profits big time from those diseases and the medication those unfortunate individuals are prescribed. There is not enough profit for them to treat depression with bupe. Welcome to the machine.

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Leelyn, you're one of the lucky ones that was diagnosed with treatment resistant depression and it took you (I'm not going to say only 3 months because someone who is diagnosed with your type of depression, 3 months could be a lifetime) 3 months to find antidepressants that work for you. I have tried most antidepressants, mood stabilizers, an insane amount of ECT procedures, hospitalizations, residential mood disorder facilities, EMDR, and I continue to suffer. I have never went the opioid route, and I don't plan to. I'm looking into checking into a research hospital like Johns Hopkins. There has got to be something that can help and maybe they have something up their sleeve. It might come down to me embracing and accepting my illness and learning to live with it. I don't see that as being a success, but one never knows. I'm happy that you found something to help you. That kinda gives me hope. Stay well and stay strong.

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JD, I have been on adderall for 4 years. In the beginning it was wonderful. I felt energized, I could talk to people again, I could go out and best of all it lifted my depression. Then after about a year I developed a tolerance to the drug and my doc prescribed a higher dose. I'm taking 80 mg per day. I felt great again, then the famed adderall crash started. I was getting extremely high anxiety, heart beating out of my chest, crying, no motivation, severe depression, fatigue, suicidal, paranoid and agoraphobic. I decided to stop taking it but the withdrawal is unbearable and I felt worse than I did when taking it. After speaking with my doctor, I started taking it again. I take it for ADHD and depression along with antidepressants. Adderall is a wonderful med for ADHD and it also helps depression, but not for long. I wish I never started taking it. I'm sure I'm addicted to it, because once I stop, I crave it because my body has been conditioned to feel "normal" when taking adderall, which it's not. If you decide to take adderall and you start to feel anything like what I've described, please speak with your doctor as soon as you can. I don't want to see you go through what I did. Stay strong.

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Try cannibis I will make a believer out of you. I suffered from depression for as long as I can remember. I tried all the big Pharma drugs no help at all just making the more rich. So I tried Mother Nature and after my first dose was not feeling the debilitating effects of my depression. I'm not saying break the law but if the state you live in has medical canonic you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to at least check it out peace and good luck

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A trick I found when I had a ton of allergy meds... including the inhaler! Since being on opies, I have been able to discontinue 5 meds but I remember using the inhaler for depression and energy....it's amphetamine based for difficult breathing..of opiates also help that as well...if withdrawal cause a histamine release then obviously opiates are an antihistamine... something they WERE once prescribed for! The history of opiates shows they were prescribed for just about everything depending on the dose! There was even the medical diagnosis of THINGS PERTAINING TO WOMEN! That would cover just about every Allenby from migraines to depression, fatigue, fibro etc., BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL MEDICINE! The new crap is killing us!

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I feel your frustration about the Drs. Starting you off on pain medicine and like you was finally getting some relief then they start taking away the only thing that made me feel somewhat better I was a more pleasant person to be around my family was glad to have the old me back again. Then my pain mgt. Dr started cutting my dosage down from 4 IR 30 mg oxycodone down to half that nothing for break through pain and now I feel like I'm slipping back to where I was before I was before I got the meds that helped me in the first place when I ask him he said the good ol DEA was watching everything the Pain Managment Clinics are perscribe to there clients. Now this is a legit Dr. And legitimate prescriptions I had a bad car accident and have several injuries to my back neck and pretty much ruined my knees I've had several operations, and the MRIS. To back my clams . What do we do when the DEA dictates what the Drs. And Pharmachys can't fill the medicine that works for the people who are suffering from chronic pain and tearing apart families. I'm not talking about the Killet drug Fentanal, that's what's killing people not a couple of pain meds taken as prescribed. Anyone got any answers

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TERRY, The only things I can think of is to remind our docs that all that mess is for Primary Care Docs not Pain Docs! Also remind them that years ago folks were getting 12, 18 and 20 pills a day. 120/mg a day is a Normal dose! Other than that we need to petition the courts to self dose... or like Dallas Buyers Club, start Pain Clubs! I want the freedom to take what I THINK are suitable dosages, not what a frightened I'll-equipped Pain Doc thinks....we need to protest and boycott meds that hurt us...I hate fentanyl but some find great help from it....we have to figure a way to WAKE UP PAIN DOCS to proper prescribing at to one every four hours not this six hour crap... That's only for opiate naive folks and I don't think any Baby Boomers are that LOK GOOD OLE 70's prepared us for higher doses...it's all pretty simple...DEA needs to be disbanded anyway...every time somebody finds something that helps (cannabis, poppies, now Kratom) they throw it into schedule 1! They WANT us sick and gone! Their plan is to eliminate those who can't be part of their labor force when NWO is here....

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Greetings dear. I am so very sorry for your needless suffering. It really pisses me off, as I'm about in the same boat, a Christian, now just a daily prayer that his will be done. One thing that I tried was finding a renowned specialist in NY that was willing to let me share our correspondence with my doctor, as well offering a free phone consult with him. Not sure yet if this will work, but maybe it's worth a shot on your end. There are compassionate docs left, we just need to find them. Let me know if I can be of help, and you will certainly be on my prayer list. God bless

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Duh,its a opiate of course it's going to make you feel good. Duh!

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My daughter suggested I try cannabis. My state does not allow medical marijuana so I'm screwed in that department. I would have to get it illegally and, besides not knowing how to go about getting it that way, I wouldn't want to. I feel like there is absolutely nobody who cares or wants to help me. Most of the psychiatrists aren't up-to-date with the meds and/or procedures that would possibly help. The politicians are no use because they're in the pockets of big Pharma who run the show. And don't get me started on the FDA. They don't believe in treatment resistant depression. Everyday I wish there was a way I could die to get away from this pain. I'm too afraid to do it myself. I went so far as to research ways that wouldn't hurt if I did try to kill myself. I was raised a Christian and it was drilled into my head that suicide is a mortal sin and I would go to hell. I used to think the pains of hell couldn't be as bad as the pain I endure every day with this disease. I used to pray and plead with God on my knees crying tears of pain, asking him to lift this burden. Not even to be cured. I would be happy if I just received some relief so I could feel joy and have some peace. People used to tell me there's a reason God gave me this burden. There was a time I believed in God the Father and that his son, Jesus, was our Lord and Savior with all my heart. I don't believe anymore. How could God who is supposed to love all his children ignore the constant prayers and pleading from one of his children who believed in him and his son and felt as though she would be saved by that belief, allow her to suffer to the point of wanting to end her life? Besides being afraid to do it, the only reason I don't is because I couldn't do that to my husband, children and grandchildren. I can't bear knowing they would be left with the guilt and sadness if I did kill myself. I just want the pain to end. Fighting everyday to stay alive and trying to believe that someday there will be help for me, is a lonely and exhausting fight...and now I don't even have my faith to fall back on. I'm so tired of thinking someday someone, somewhere would recognize this is a true disease and not something that was made up or that I'm just lazy. Someone who would care enough to at least seriously try to find something that would help give me my life back. Not one of these clinical trials that go on for years without any success or studies that show some promise, only to be shot down by the FDA. Deep down I know it's futile because to understand the constant unbearable pain, you have to go through it and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. So I guess I have to continue fighting until I have no strength left at all and just die. I wish my family didn't have to witness my deterioration. I feel like I'm a cancer patient except nobody will give me the medication I need to survive.

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Seriously, Levo? What kind of a moronic answer is that? How old are you? 12? This is a serious website with serious, grown up questions and if you don't have the maturity to answer with empathy and constructively, you don't belong on here. Think about that and how your answer could affect seriously ill fellow humans.

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Spyz, they treat us like animals. Only the strongest survive. Well I have news for the DEA, the FDA and any other organization that thinks that way. We are much stronger than any of them. We're still here despite them and we don't have to hide behind bureaucracy. We continue our personal battles with our illnesses and we usually do it alone. That's where real strength lies.

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SADIESURRENDER AMEN to that! They are unaware that most of us know the Lord and pray and have thousands of heavenly hosts on our side! LOL According to God we ARE Overcomers!

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Agree, i just had 2 teeth ripped out by my dental surgeon 3 days ago and could not get antibiotics again.. But he did prescribe me 5mg hydrocodone for pain. I have been unable to get medication for 2 years now since Gov. n ins. co. playing Dr. i only got 15 5mg tabs for pain of surgery but i finally have been able to move n im stretching them out as far as possible. My pain is worse in the morning plus i have a business that has been put off for so long. I can only take 1/2 a pill in the morning. My stitches still hurt but at least i can move with out falling down pain for sometime. It just gives me hope if we can stop the murdering thieving liying Gov. n buy off by ins. co. I can get my pain management specialist at least by next year if the pain does not give me a heart attack. I keep getting sent to hospitals which do nothing because my blood pressure is at stroke level. No s*** that's what pain does.

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Many treatment resistant depressives are actually Endogenous Deficient and need external opiates...Look up article Ignorance Kills and see if you fit the bill.. No you do not need to keep increasing dosages, that fear mongering media hype! As a Pain patient my optimum dose was 6/day of oxy 30mgs....For six years not only would it still work but stopping Fentanyl or any ER opiate helped me go down to 4/day.... Now with docs running scared-I even found a doable does of 15 or 20mg 6 a day every 4 hours being 90mgs or the same 120....6 years on this crazy train and no, you don't need higher and higher doses! I'm using it for pain, depression, vertigo, sinusitis, energy, mobility and more!

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