Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 18)
UpdatedI am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?
EXCELLENT points, people! And, sadly, you are right. Billions are made each and every year from the mass's? So why should they change? And the Dr's are just a step up from us. They aren't really profiting from the drugs themselves, that's BIG PHARMA. Yeah they get a few free lunches or dinners, and MAYBE a very small percentage for " pushing " a particular drug, but that's not even a drop in the bucket compared to BIG PHARMA. It is indeed a very sad and far reaching problem. I can't tell you how many " Dr's " I have absolutely driven to the brink with my limited knowledge of drugs, ESPECIALLY pain meds! I've gotten everything from a sly smile and " hey, you wanna fill in for me when I go on vacation? " to, " get the hell out of my office and don't come back! " lol....some, a very few, appreciate an educated patient, others, not so much. .well, thanks for reading, till next time, this has been HOUSE. Take care, take off, and be good to one another.
I have only read some of the many comments.
I have taken Vicoprofen for over ten years. It has been life changing. Truly, life changing! I had tried most every pain killer on the market for my peripheral neuropathy. It kept me from having to put my feet in ice water before going to sleep each night. Also, getting up in the middle of the night to do the same. I was so,so grateful! I could go to a mall with my wife and walk for some time, once again. I have never increased the dose and have never gotten any "high" from it's use.
Just sayin.
HOUSE LOL I think they are mad because not only do we get our info free off the internet and they paid $100,000 in tuition LOL, but they stop learning once they graduated! We as patients are probably more aware of news meds, programs, laws, pain conferences etc. than they are....I had one N. P. shriek, "well I'm certified to do this"! I opened my folder full of my AMA, APA, CME, REM and other certification, waved my prescribing Liscenses in her face and said back, "Me too"! "Plus over 40 years research, what about you" yeah they like running out of the room.....it sucks having the qualifications to prescribe but no medical Liscence to attach it to
I too try to educate myself about new, old and off label medications that might be able to treat refractory depression. I search the Internet for any clinical trials that research the effects of new medications and experimental treatments that I may be able to participate in. I've applied for a couple of trials and so far I've been unsuccessful. Everyday I research approved medications that I haven't tried yet. During my appointment with my shrink, I give him the list of the meds which, I'm sure he's never heard of, or just never thought about trying them out. Usually he has to look most of them up in his drug book. I also tell him about the clinical trials that pertain to my illness. He likes when I do all the research because then he doesn't have to do it. With all the medications I've found, he has never prescribed one. He keeps talking about the usual antidepressants which do not help me. BIG PHARMA makes tons from antidepressants and I believe they push the doctors to prescribe medication that does not work for many, many people. Antidepressants are dangerous. Patients definitely become addicted to them because the withdrawal symptoms are so bad, you feel like you're going to die. I've never used illicit drugs before, but I've heard from several people in my support groups that struggled with opiate addiction that antidepressant withdrawal can be just as bad. And we have to endure horrifying side effects. I don't even know what the hell I'm saying or thinking anymore. I wish BIG PHARMA would start considering the well being of the minions who suffer from this potentially fatal disease and start pushing the FDA to approve medications that have been proven to alleviate depression symptoms. They won't because those medications will not make a huge profit for the BIG PHARMA fat cats. I'm so at the end of my rope and lost all hope of any type of cure or, at least, some type of relief from this pain. I pray everyday I don't find myself on the wrong end of that rope. It just gets harder and harder everyday and they just don't care. I'm thinking it might be time for another in patient hospital visit. Usually being in the hospital doesn't help all that much, but I'll be safe.
Spyz, LOL! Man you are soo right! I hate the one's that act so high and mighty cause they know that you need them. Now if we could only get the DEA out of the " practice " of medicine, MAYBE things would be better. I know this is not going to happen, too much money in it for the fed.ah well, one can dream. .....
SADIESURRENDER, do you have ANY condition that would qualify you for pain management? If you could keep a steady stream of opiates in your system, that would help the depression....some hit different receptors and could make it worse....hydro and oxycodone do raise T levels in Thyroid, providing energy and enhance mood....they are actually non-narcotic and have a base (Thebaine) which is a stimulant...even 20mgs, once after breakfast and again after lunch.....would alleviate depression symptoms, keep your bowels regular and not keep you up all night.....if a pain doc gave you 4 19mgs a day......that would greatly help and I never noticed withdrawal symptoms on that low a dose....many SSRI meds can drive you nuts....if your goal isn't to feel high, you will not need higher and higher doses.......I started 6-7 yrs ago taking 6 30mgs a day and now that I refuse to take an extended release opiate, I can get by on 80-90 mgs a day! Great pain relief and excellent antidepressant which is due to aid to T levels....low thyroid can cause depression Good Luck!
Once again Spyz, you hit it right! Hat's off to you sir!
HOUSE that's Ma'am LOL and SADIESURRENDER I meant 10mgs not 19!
Spyz. I recently had back surgery which helped tremendously for the herniated disc and spinal stenosis. I literally couldn't walk from the pain before the surgery. However, it has left me with chronic back pain which the doctor said the surgery would cause . I had no choice but to go through with it. I do have chronic back pain which has extremely limited my daily activity. I can barely do housework without crying from the pain, I can't take my pups out for a long walk like I used to, I love to bake but I can't stand for long periods of time which baking requires. I still bake but I do it sitting down which is pretty difficult. The pain is worse laying down than when I sit up, so when I wake up in the morning all I can is, well I can't post what I say on here. Lol. The pain has negatively impacted my life. I'm not sure if this falls into the category of pain management, but if it does, I have a feeling a pain management doctor would want to treat it with epidural shots instead of pain killers. Thanks for trying to think of a solution and for caring.
SADIESURRENDER Shots aren't mandatory plus you had surgery, meds would be of great benefit to you for pain and depression AND mobility! You'll be walking your pooch in no time!
SadieSurrender- I am 65 and had a disc replaced last November after receiving 10 steroid shots over 4 years. My sciatic pain has been minimized. Do you know exactly what is now causing the back pain? The stenosis? Pinched nerve? Scar tissue?
Is it futile to see more doctors for their opinions?
Davo, my back pain is chronic pain caused by the surgery I had in April. I couldn't opt out of the surgery because the pain I was experiencing was so bad I couldn't walk. I never in my life felt pain that severe. I never thought I would say this, but it was so much worse than childbirth. Lol. My diagnosis was a herniated disc at L3/L4, a compressed nerve and spinal stenosis. For me, spinal stenosis is inherited along with this friggin' depression. How lucky am I? There was no choice between having epidural shots and physical therapy because of how severe the pain was. I had a laminectomy. The doctor prepared me for having chronic back pain, probably for the rest of my life. I thought I would just have to learn how to live with it until I read your post. I wonder if I would be a candidate for epidural shots now. I don't know what the criteria are for being a candidate, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask. I was always pretty active before this back crap. I'd love to be that active again. Thanks for giving me options I didn't think of.
Davo, I forgot to mention that I don't have any sciatic pain. The pain I have is my lower back is because I had the surgery. I was told up front that the surgery would only help with the herniated disc and everything that went along with it. The surgery would not help with lower back pain. I hope I made sense.
Spyz...I'm going to seriously think about seeing a pain management doctor. I miss walking my pooches. I have 2 pups and 2 kitties. They help somewhat with depression but only very temporarily.
SADIE I have a Brussels and poor thing only goes out during the day if I have enough meds....otherwise she has to wait till evening when roomie gets home and walks her.....she seems to know when Im stuck on the couch...
SPYZ...I have a Golden Retriever, Logan and an all white Siberian Husky, Ghost. They know when I'm not feeling well. Logan will lay on my feet and Ghost will put his head in my lap. They barely leave my side. They're my best friends. Of course cats don't have much empathy lol, but when they sit on my lap or next to me, petting them calms me. Pets are great therapy. I wish that's all it took to get better. I think if myself as the crazy animal lady down the block. I like animals more than most people. So, what's your Brussel's name?
SADIESURRENDER her name is Cricket.....same thing here, she just lays at my feet patiently waiting for roomie to get home...Funny thing is, if she thinks I can make the walk, she won't give up and I find that I can get up (slowly) and carefully take her....since I have to carry her down the steps she'll do what I call a Drop Poop n Go.....then just pick her back up n head up the steps...on good days she gets to actually run about while she's out...Ligan and Ghost sound sweet....yeah, cats don't care bout anything LOL
Going through that as I type. Been on them for about five years. Wasnt addicted just dependant. I used them for anxiety and depression. While on them got a job which I've held for over 3yrs. Moved up into management and bought a car. I only allowed myself 3 a day max most days less. Decided I wanted to stop. 2 weeks today was my last one. But Im having extreme anxiety and depression. Dont know how long I can stay feeling this way. Seriously reconsidering my decision as they only made me feel normal nothing more. No crazy side effects. They only made me more productive. Is there light at the end of this tunnel ? How long can i expect to feel this way?
Ahhh, Spyz. .ya got me! Lol....sorry so long for the reply. Anywho, YES MA'AM! hat's off to you MA'AM!
Hi Marie,
Against all the public bs about how dangerous opioids are, they are quite safe when used moderately. I hope you are able to get back on them.
Best wishes
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