What Not To Say During Suboxone Appt (Page 7)

My boyfriend has battled with heroin addiction for at least 2 years now. He was prescribed to before, but couldn't afford the maintenance program and ended up banging heroin again. He went back to his doctor to get a script for suboxone again last week, and the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to him. I found another dr who can prescribe suboxone nearby, and want to make sure he gets a script because he will die if he doesn't quit using. Does anyone know any reasons why a dr wouldn't prescribe suboxone? Thanks.

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because the dr wants to know for surd that when he starts the suboxone treatment that the patient is gonna stick with it. some dr's are cool and understand that ppl make mistakes sometimes but lots of sub drs are d***s who think they are god by holding it over your head. hope everythings turned out good since then tho

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The original post in this was in 2008...I hope by now something has changed quite a bit for this person

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You don't know everyone's story. You don't know shiz about addiction unless you have been in the situation. I hate a terrible terrible birthing experience to a still born baby boy that left me in constant pain. I was torn from front to back and my pelvic bone was fractured. I was prescribed pain medication because I NEEDED it. After a few months I tried to wean myself off and didn't realize how gruesome withdrawal was. So I continued taking the pills and told my doctor I wanted to feel normal again. That I didn't want my life to depend on the pills so he prescribed weaker ones. Then was when I started abusing them. My tolerance was so high that the weaker pills barely prevented me from being sick. I continued taking the weaker ones and then in would get a couple from a friend. Downhill spiral that I didn't know how to get out of. Don't judge. You don't know everyone's story. You don't know the real pain people live with,........

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Very informative post! JM - I applaud your knowledge and for sticking up for true addicts in search of recovery from this terrible disease. I myself am an opiate addict have been fot nearly a decade. I went on Suboxone in 2008 and lasted for 6 years until relapsing on Heroin after I lost my job and health benefits. This addiction is no joke and can honestly say from my own personal experience that Suboxone does save lives! We do recover and recovery is a blessing a second chance at life all addicts should have the chance to experience. It is not easy to find Sub doctors that are accepting new patients these days (I am currently trying to find one myself). But I'm not giving up as it's worth the wait! Looking forward to an update from the original poster as well. One day at a time - we do recover! If anyone else has any questions about Suboxone treatment experience I'll do my best to help answer them.

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Just wanted to add my bit. I got hooked on black tar near Phoenix when I was a kid, my first year in high school. It's been ten years now, I'm nearly 25, and still feel my addiction chase me. To be be fair, out of the last ten years, I was shooting H most of the time, about 8 of the 10, so I guess the more important figure is my last few years clean. The friends I've had have started to pass on from their addictions, and I saw my future in them. In a moment of clarity, I found the hope to live.

The opioid Buprenorphine saved my life as heroin almost took it, I have no doubt that I would have succumb if I hadn't sought treatment AND been placed on suboxone maintenance. My treatment always failed where I was left on my own to replace the deficit that heroin left, my poor soul needs something concrete sadly. I wish I was a stronger man, a more faithful person. I hope the world can one day be different.

I've been off dope and building my life since I left rehab in 2011. I cry with joy when I experience the life that I could have so easily lost, but I still fight for my happiness. My life is a fight, and there's no pride in the struggle. I am just barely propped up by a substance, when I lose its security I'm left in horror. I am afraid that without it I will only struggle into my own death, it's very difficult to choose a path.

I've watched stronger people than me, cycle from heroin to alcohol addiction, in a pitiful state. All the while hoping to get clean, to find happiness in every day life. I wish they could get the chance I've had. Suboxone can/will/does save lives, it should be given to any junkie willing to undertake treatment.

Peace and good luck, demand what you need!

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Right there with ya

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I agree screw Walgreens ! I know it is not all of them but one bad one is enough ! There are some CVS's I do not like either you really just have to find a good pharmacy the people make the difference !

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I give seconds on Dr. Parvus! I used to live in Vero Beach, as well, and he never makes you feel bad about choosing Suboxone. In fact he takes time to sit and explain how it works and helps you determine if you should taper or if you're someone who needs to be on long-term. I moved away and I have yet to find a doctor who is as caring or responsive. I'm convinced he's the only one out there who doesn't treat addicts like criminals for seeking help. I've had 4 doctors since him, each worse than the rest. My current doctor consistently writes the wrong dosage or prescribes tablets when my record clearly states I use strips. When the pharmacy calls him to see why my prescriptions aren't correct(I've been with Walgreens for years) he gets defensive because he made a mistake. I'm in Sacramento, btw. Steer clear of a doctor on El Camino Blvd. with a Middle-Eastern name. I've started to believe he is abusing narcotics based on his behavior in the office. If you can get to Vero Beach, Dr. Parvus is by far the best doctor and his staff is amazing.

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It helped me stay clean for 2 years... And didn't even take as much as I was prescribed... Then a bad influence came into my life and I relapsed. I hadn't seen any meds in 2 yrs until he put a whole bottle of roxy 15s in the cabinet and even after being clean that long I didn't have the willpower when it was in my face... Once ur an addict u r for the rest of ur life.. But it's ur choice if u want to b a junkie or recovering addict but he has to b READY to stop or it won't work at all he will b selling the subs to get other stuff... I have been back clean for a very short while and would love to go back on it but I take 3 mil of Xanax a day, and have seizures if I don't have them and in wv they stopped prescribing them together.... Hoped this helped some it's very important that u know he's ready and monitor the subs if u have to... It's very expensive if u don't have ins. I was paying $800 a month between the doctor appts every week and scripts... Good luck!!!!!

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I'm having a really hard time, hoping someone can help me. I'm going in for my suboxone appointment within one or two weeks. I was on methadone for three weeks, but ended up going out of town and didn't get back within the time period allowed. So now I've been off it for about four weeks and have been really sick. I've taken 3 valium and my adderal. Both are prescribed. My question is do I need to detox that out before my appointment? I was gonna quit taking the adderal if that cant be taken with it. And I'm out of my valium now anyway. Imam just worworried that if besides opiates, those meds showing up that he won't give it to me... I am very sick and just want to be back into a treatment because my depression is so bad I can't get out of bed. Anyones thoughts very appreciated

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I was addicted to opiates and xanex for a couple years and went to the first of 2 Dr's and was prescribed subs, and xanex, he new I had issues with the xanex but he would just express that I needed to be careful with it. After about 2 years of taking it, some problems came up with my husband, he never liked the idea of me taking either one of them but it had always helped me to be on subs, so after a little while, I had caused some problems because of the xanex my husband called my dr and told him I had taken all the xanex, which were 90 pills in a couple days.. which was not true, at that time my husband had not wanted me on anything at all, but I was getting them behind his back, again the subs helped me stay off opiates. So I had them hid and my husband found them and flushed them. I called my dr and told him about this but he didn't believe me I guess, and told me he wouldn't see me anymore. I think maybe he didn't want to deal with my drama anymore, I made the rest of the subs last me and after a couple months I was out. I then went to another Dr paid $200 for the initial visit, and he saw what had happened with my last Dr. I guess that meant I was on the black list, not sure how that works but he still helped me. I also told him I do not want any anxiety meds, I just know that those are worse than the benefit of helping me, I just don't do good with them, I get too careless. He gave me a prescription for the non generic pills which were way exspensive so I asked him to call me in the generic ones, I made that prescription last me a couple months then ran out, I couldn't afford to go back to him because I was on a membership program and was supposed to be paying $100 every month whether or not I went to see him, I hadn't seen him for 4 months and now I have received a bill for $450 I guess before I can go back to see him.. so I went back to the other pharmacy that I took the more expensive prescription to do it was a different pharmacy and got the rest of them, I did what I had to do to avoid dying from withdrawals.. I am now very very close to running out of them and I am scared to death of getting sick, I'm not ready to stop, I have tried to calculate what I have left to ween down but I'm hoping to find another Dr to go to I cannot afford to go back to the 2nd Dr dont even know If he would help me again, I don't want it to appear as if I'm Dr shopping, I just need to find the right help.. I have thought about talking to the 1st Dr he was always really good to me but after what happened and him black listing me I don't know what to think. I need one that will help me maintain and stay on them even though I have been prescribed them before and had these issues. I want to be honest but have heard that I should tell them I have relapsed, I don't want them to think that subs are not working, cause they do more than anything. I just need to find a Dr that will work with my life and what to tell him about what had happened and what's going on now, I've been clean from opiates and xanex for 1 year when one relapse 7 months ago and the subs have helped me stay happy, I have No anxiety or depression, I can hold a job and take care of what I need to, I wish my husband would be more positive about setting how this had helped Mr, but that's another story.?? Thank You for any advice !

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Hi my name is bob I been snifing h 1yr 6m would I be eligible for suboxon

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So very, very, true! I'm a lifelong drug addict and a heroin junkie going on 5 years now. I refuse to say what I have is a disease. Cancer, AIDS etc are diseases - no one chooses a disease it's a traumatic thing that's thrust upon them. I CHOSE to swallow that pill, snort that line, stick that needle in my vein for a high. Also, after over 4 decades of research there's no evidence of a gene or chemical make-up for addiction - IT IS NOT A DISEASE! I refuse to be told I've a disease when I know it's BS. Now does that mean I don't deserve help to become the human-being I know I can be, of course not, I'm still a sentient being, with hopes, love and things I can contribute. I've just made horrible choices to avoid emotional pain at all costs and I've decided to deal with my reality with nullification. I'm trying so hard to get suboxone - I want so badly to get off this nightmare carousel. In that sense it has become "disease" like, for I need medication to get my brain back to "normal". Sorryy, to rant and ramble, yet whenever the opportunity presents itself I am compelled to quell this nonsense about addiction being a disease.

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Lots of good info here.

A bit different of a question- i've been off the hard stuff for a year and on suboxone from the street. One year this week. Sub supply is low and i may run out. I want to stay clean but afraid stopping the sub suddenly will make me sick. If i go to a sub doc what should i say to him? I want to have a real script and not have to worry month to month about where i'll get the subs. Thanks!!

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Hi Mike, A lot of people use subs to get by when they can,t get there DOC for whatever reason although your case is a little different seeing how you been on subs alone for awhile.
You could tell the sub dr. the truth or you could say you started taking subs about a week ago and you can,t get anymore and you don,t want to go back to your DOC. Good luck.

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Yea that works, if ur actually prescribed oxys... Otherwise the docs gonna find out u jus lied to them n not ever give u s***

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So in order to be an addict, you must be prescribed an opiate and never have gotten any on the street? That makes absolutely no sense....there wouldn't be a black market for pills, nor would heroin be such a popular option amongst opiate addicts if this were true. Truth is you don't need to be prescribed an opiate to get Suboxone, you just need to be serious about cleaning up your life and committed to recovering from addiction and the lifestyle.

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Why listen to someone who can't spell Xanax correctly?

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I know this post is old, but on the off chance that you may read it again, here goes. I was where you are. I was abused as a child as well, and cps knew and interviewed me . 10 yrs later, they interviewed me again and asked about the pattern. I have to muster up those crappy thoughts all over again and remember once again how he humiliated me. Seems that there is another little girl that was as old as I was when it started with me, and she is behaving in the same manner as I did, using the same mannerisms and the same sentences as he did with me. But...he still runs free and always will. I used that abuse for many years. I used it when it was to my benefit and also when I felt like beating up on myself. It's time to stop. Get the correct counseling and move it forward. DO NOT TREAT YOUR CHILDREN AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE VICTIMIZED IN THEIR LIFETIME. Don't let what happened to you affect their lives any more than you are now. Try the suboxone. I did and it took me a minute, and some back peddling once or twice, but I finally got it. When the drugs stopped, my thoughts cleared up and my life went forward. I could care for myself and mychildren the correct way. I didn't look at each person as if they were about to hurt me or mine. You need to change your mind set. I'm hoping this helps you. Thank you. You can write to me anytime if you need to talk.

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Can you please get in touch with me. {edited for privacy}. please, i really wana talk to you. im going threw the same thing as you :/

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