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My son has been on suboxone for over 1 year now. He was a herion addict for over 12 years. Been clean off and on during that time. I have seen a personality change in him which is almost intolerable. It is like he is fine one minute and then goes off the wall the next. Has anyone who has been on suboxon or knows someone who has been seen a personality change.
Wow I thought I was the only one! I am 42 have been voluntarily putting myself in rehab for alcoholism since I was 18. Even completed an 8 month program. Was drunk within the week of the graduation. I have always taken the occasional tab or vike but never was addicted to opiates...until I moved to panama city beach florida about 3 years ago and fell head over heels in love with a little blue pill. Funny thing is I took them to relieve hangovers. After about 2 months my desire for alcohol dwindled and my desire 4 roxies escalated. Moved back to alabama when things got out of hand. Very little money and no connections led me straight to the methadone clinic. After about a year moved on to suboxins. I know it's time to start tapering from the suboxone but I'm worried I will crave alcohol again. I have 4 dui's. How crazy is it that I struggled so many years to get sober and opiates( not just any opiates:methadone and suboxins) completely take away any cravings for alcohol.
I totally agree with you, these pills have given so much trouble. I wish I would of never taken the first one, but I was so very sick.
Reply to Debbie: I don,t know if suboxone is a scam or not but it helped me. I,ve abused drugs since my teens and I,m in my 50,s now. I started taking subs. about 7 weeks ago. I know I,m just swapping one drug for another but the subs. have given me the time to slow down and think about what I have to do to get clean and stay clean. I,m not allways thinking about my next high or running around trying to score. I,m gonna get off subs. within next month and half and have started the taper. Anyways thats all I got to say.
I am currently taking suboxone to overcome a 6 year addiction to (prescribed) pain medication. It seems that many people reading this forum are looking for advice and/or answers about either starting suboxone or getting off--My 2 cents is this: If used as a PART of a total recovery program, including therapy relevant to your own personal needs (ie: group meetings, one on one treatment, ect) suboxone can be a very useful tool. It does eliminate cravings and withdrawl symptoms but absolutely can be abused just as any other drug. I do believe that Dr's are quick to prescribe it and will continue to do so until you ask to be tapered down. You basically have to have your heart set on recovery to be successful with this drug. As far as the withdrawl from suboxone itself--You will feel as badly as you expect to feel. If you are tapered down slowly, the pyschical effects will be minimal, I think the difference in everyone's experience has very little to do with chemistry and more to do with the ideas that are firmly planted in your subconcious mind. It takes more than a single miracle drug and will power to be clean. Proper nutrition, adequate sleep and the absolute belief that you are a whole, healthy, functioning human being are keys to success! I tell myself that I feel better and better each time I cut down my dose and because I honestly believe that, it's the truth. I can not wait to be completely substance free and enjoy my life without medication. Suboxone isn't the answer for everyone. But if you are sincerely ready to recover your life, and willing to take an honest look at yourself and your choices, it may be the first step in the right direction. I hope that this helps!
Sorry you feel that way. I am sure this forum is meant for support where others share their experiance to help themselves and others so I am not going to debate the Big Pharma all about the money concept, however isn't it all about the money on the street? And almost all drugs are bout the money. There are many natural herbs etc... that we are never told about because the Pharma can't patent mother nature, and they wouldn't spend money on trails to support positive findings, but they are out there and just as any other drug you will find people who swear by it and people it did not help. As far as what you may or may not here about Sub we all repond differently to medication and it's my belief not that to try a treatment because somone had negative results is no different than not seeing a movie that somone else did not enjoy. My point is that it's fine to report experiances with a particular medication, but it is not right to make generalizations that might have others believe it would do the same to them, and therefore never give it n honest effort. I start my induction on Tuesday and wish I could have started yesterday! I am optimistic and I think that is a good start. I expect positive results, and look for support from others who have had success with this treatment too! I could care less about Big Pharma and the $$$$ and on that note I can rember times when I thought the qulity of the heroin sucked nd a freind doing the same stuff thought it was great! Explain that?
I just went in for the very first appointment with a substance abuse center, and the first thing without knowing me or anything about my situation suggested I switch from norco to subs for pain management. He talked about alternative methods of controlling the chronic pain due to fractures in the back. And immediately suggested another drug. I have heard many negative things about subs, never anything good. Stated there are grants to help or pay for the medication. I felt like that a social worker should not be pushing another potentially addicting medication right off the bat. I feel that this is a drug they are over prescribing because of the cost. He also was quick to say there was no side effects of subs, as in getting high! Then why are they selling them on the streets? I said no to the idea, I am not going from one medication to another that has such bad press as well as such horrible detox possibilities. We have inpatient rehab in our town and they have Doctors come in from out of state to run sub clinics out of a Hotel meeting room for refill scripts. All he does, flies in and holds the clinic. I know this to be true because I work at one they did it out of one and only one time. When we found out what was going on, with the line up of 15 to 20 people rotating over a 5 hour time frame, all talking about carpooling to the next town over because they have a 24 hour pharmacy. Yes it was legal, we checked. We also told the Doctor that we would not have him back. Ran his little clinic at night! Its all about money, I am sure not one of those people that came to see him paid cash, I am sure they all had medicaid or something like that. Or the grant money the social worker spoke of. So I pass on any drug that makes so much money they can fly around Docs and hold a script clinic in a hotel.
I had been taking oxycodone, ovycontin, xanax and lamictal since 2003 for chronic pain, anxiety, and depression as prescribed! Unusual for an alcoholic/addict! After surgery in May 2011 I fell apart no longer had a prescription for xanax went cold turkey, compensated with taking more 30mg oxycodone than prescribed, July 2011 started shooting the pills 1st time ever than started using heroin when script ran out early. I have been reading about Suboxone and am scheduled to start induction this Tues. I enjoy reading experiances however it seems like people have a wide range of both positive and negative experiances and it reminds me of how this is the same as with any drug. Who had little or no Sub withdrawals and who had withdrawals worse than Oxy's and heroin. Everyone chemistry is a little different and we all respond differently. I wish some people would just post their experience without being so judgemental. It might turn people away. And at this point in time for me it's about harm reduction. If I am not shooting, exposed to arrest and jail for heroin posession and I can manage chronic pain with a less addictive narcotic than its worth an honest effort.
Suboxone has not been an easy ride for me, I don't like the way it makes me feel. I think it changes my personality. BUT I had been on prescribed pain meds for too long and my tolerance was thru the roof. I decided it was time for a change. I got really sick at one point and the er doc treated me like S***. When I told the nurse I was upset she said I was on subox because I had abused my medication. My doc and I talked about my changeover for at least a year and it was my decision. Some doctors just suck (ER) and they don't know what they are talking about. love it that they know so much about me without ever bother interviewing me.I only plan on staying on low doses of suboxone until all that other crap is our of my system.Are there others out their having a hard time with this treatment?
That is a stupid statement! If taking one or two suboxone a day keeps you out of the ally buying heroin every day and night you can get enough money for a bag then it is cleary a step in the right direction! You are probably just an addict and that is the excuse you use so u feel better about shootin up!
You'r son dont want to get better! sounds like he is using the suboxone as a safety net and/or a way to make money to buy heroin!
MY fiance takes suboxone and she is incredibly moody and intolerant when she does. She can be sugar sweet one moment and then totally irrational and saying the most hurtful things the next. She uses suboxone intermittanly for pain control, though she took it years ago for pain killer addiction. When she takes it for more than two days in a row it is readily apparent from her demeanor and actions. I hate the person that she becomes when she takes them.
bigjim so are you saying that your going to stay on suboxone for the rest of your life so that you dont use heroin? Your disillusioned to think that another controlled substance is going to prevent you from abusing another. Recovery lies in your hands not in a pill
Suboxone abuse is a very big problem, after all drs are giving an addictive drug to an addict who abuses drugs. Im glad to hear your not abusing suboxone its encoraging ! it truely is about how serious someone wants their recovery. Keep in mind that its a fact that although you may feel like your going to die from withdrawals truth is people dont.
many detoxs and hospitals are now coming out and saying that the withdrawal is no different and sometimes much worse than the drug of choice.
Im sad to hear that a graduate of teen challenge is stating that suboxone which is a highly addictive drug saved their life!! God saved your life and give yourself credit for working thru your problems and staying in recover but really dont accredit an awful drug that has ruined the quality of life for so many. a drug that is abused and sold on the street!!!
I posted on here how my doc told me how to get off subs, he gave me 38 pills, 1 a day for 2 weeks, 3/4 a day for 2 weeks, 1/2 a day for 2 weeks, 1/4 a day for 2 weeks, and then 1/4 every other day for two weeks and then stop. I don't know what is going to happen, but this is the worst drug I have ever taken. And the most expensive. These docs and the company that makes them are making millions. My doc charges $200 an office visit, he was giving 70 pills, 7.50 a pill here in Ohio, that's $750 a month, my social security check is $760, but they tell you, you have to come in. I have an open worker's comp. claim which is how I got on all the pain meds, they won't pay for the subs. I'm screwed which ever way I turn. Has anyone ever heard of workers comp. paying for subs?f
I feel like I wrote that myself , my girlfriend is Suboxone dependent, something that is suppose to be use for 28 days to detox off pills has turned into months of use. She also stockpiles them and remain in a outpatient program so she can get more . funnny thing is she kicked it and the outpantient Conifer Park put her back on it. I guess theres no money in it for them if shes better so they keep stringing her along putting her on sleeping meds etc....its a vicious endless cycle that I see no end in sight.
its a life saver and it depends on the person to want to do good in his or her life.
I went to my sub doc yesterday to get off them. This is what he prescribed. It' a 10 week plan. 1 sub everyday for 2 weeks, then 3/4 sub for two weeks, then 1/2 sub for two weeks, then 1/4 sub for two weeks, then stop. I am going to try it because I really cannot afford to be on this medication. The dr. visit is $200 plus the cost of the pills, here in Ohio, they are $7.50 a piece. social security, $760 monthly. It's impossible for me to stay in this program. I'm going to do this, don't know what will happen. God Bless You All!
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