Suboxone Abuse (Page 6)
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My son has been on suboxone for over 1 year now. He was a herion addict for over 12 years. Been clean off and on during that time. I have seen a personality change in him which is almost intolerable. It is like he is fine one minute and then goes off the wall the next. Has anyone who has been on suboxon or knows someone who has been seen a personality change.

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Good luck to you. AA saved my life too. There is a good life waiting for all,of us out there :)

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You are not alone. I hope you have found a way to live without the "prescribed method". Good ole AA or NA is your best bet.

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He is the only one who can decide to quit.
let's hope he will be smart enough not to OD and be careful.

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My son, age 27, just started using subs. Was on pain meds for a back problem and was supplementing his scripts with street drugs. I think he is still using street drugs (oxy and Percs) along with the subs. What could happen with these combinations? how can he get off all of them, assuming he wants to.

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@ Debbie... U need to educate yourself before you act like you have walked even a 0.1 of a mile in any of these addicts shoes... IT is a Disease! YOUR CLUELESS LADY!! Do some research, or better yet go sit in some NA meetings Lady. Suboxone has saved so many children from sticking what might be that next LETHOL Dose in a Vein!! Ignorance is Bliss!

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Am I missing something here? You say you take them for a condition? I have a condition that prevents me from even thinking about extreme sports for the rush. Impossible for me!

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I was dependent on Oxycodone / Oxycontin and Xanax for more than 10 years. About a year ago I started to misuse this these legally prescribed medication I went cold turkey on Xanax without considering the consequences. Within a month I started to shoot the Oxy (never shot anything before in my life) and a strange thing happened I lost control! I had taken the meds as prescribed for chronic pain and never had cravings or over use them. As a result of shooting the Oxy I developed an insatiable obession to use and when i ran out early I started shooting heroin! TOTAL INSANITY - Now the - GOOD NEWS - after a detox stay in Jan and than again in April They send you out after 5 days with nothing GOOD LUCK becasue there is a 2 week waiting process to get an Out patient program I finally made it to one the second time out. I started Suboxone and I have been clean for 2 months now and feel OK! The doctor at the OP won't prescribe for pain and at 8 mg 2x a day it is helping with the pain a little bit. My Pain Management doctor says 24mg - 32mg would better treat pain but I do not want to go there. I would rather stop the suboxone, so I don't want to take larger doses. I have started to cut down and am really not having a hard time doing so. I am sure everyone is different. I feel a little sick cutting down, but it is nothing in comparison to 30mg Oxy 5 - 6 a day, or heroin in my experiance so far! in addition to the outpatient program and seeking alternative pain Management therapy and I also attend AA. I am an alcoholic and I certainly need help with my attitude, outlook on life and the alcoholic behavior! Looking forward to a better life ONE DAY AT A TIME!

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Zlovergirl, wait until it's time to get off them. It's a real b****. I'm almost done, it's taken me quite a long time and sick alot. Suboxene has opiates in it that's why you feel soooo good. Wait until the dr. says well we better start getting you off this. You will be sorry you took that first one. At least that's the way I feel.

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Suboxone, Methadone, these are all supplied by the government. My son was just court ordered to take Suboxone, but my daughter, who he lives with, has to lock it up so he won't sell it or abuse it. Something is terribly wrong with these traveling medicine show cures, and if he doesn't take it he is in violation of the courts. We are not getting to the root of the problem and I certainly don't have a solution.

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Wow. I should have read this forum b4 I started Soboxone. It's my 6th day. I am taking 8mg per day. I was quite skeptical--I didn't really believe it would work. But it does. In fact I feel GREAT!!! I feel so good that I know there's gotta be a catch somewhere. No cravings for pain meds. A renewed interest in my job. I'm finally able to sleep. BUT...I will let you know the "But" when I find out. Peace to everyone. I haven't felt this good in years. I didn't feel this good when I was on the pain meds. I feel so good that I feel like I'm cheating. I feel so good that I think I would be lying if I called myself "clean & sober." I'm very interested in other people's experiences with Suboxone. I will come back to this forum just to see what everyone else had written. So keep writing! It's helping!

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As an addict myself and also a parent, I feel almost a responsibility to reply to this post. There isn't a cure for opiate addiction to date. When I first heard of Suboxone/Subutex (not much of a difference there), I was elated. I thought and prayed that there was a "cure" for me. However, we were all misled by both the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies. You are exactly right in your evaluation and conclusion regarding your sons behavior. I am prescribed pain medication for a valid disorder and became addicted approximately 20 years ago. I now use suboxone or subutex to get me through the times after I run out of my prescription. I also know heroin addicts who do the same when they cannot find their "fix". It (suboxone) is only a replacement drug, much like methadone, NOT a cure of any kind. If you find an honest doctor to discuss these medications with (Suboxone and Subutex), you will find that they were never intended to be used for more than 5 to 7 days to fight the worst of the withdrawal symptoms. It then boils down to sheer willpower and the desire to lead a clean and productive lifestyle with the assistance of extensive drug rehabilitation counseling. After years of research on this subject, hoping to find that "cure" I have found that the best type of rehabilitation includes extreme physical activities such as white water rafting and skydiving. I know this sounds absurd and most definitely quite costly, but I have read that many of the rock stars and movie stars seek this type of treatment. The adrenaline rush from such activities is supposed to produce similar chemicals in the brain while keeping your mind focused on something other than the drugs. Whatever you do, do not give up on your son...I see that has been approx. 3 years since you have posted and I am hoping that he has made positive changes in his life. I know that there other parents in your situation here today and I hope that this information can help someone. Suboxone/Subutex/Methadone...NOT the long-term answer...hard work, love, and prayer are good places to start. It is a long and difficult journey from there.

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Ok...lets get real!! Im 58 years old. I came to terms with the fact that I would forever love certain drugs. Realize .. that to live your life with other people in peace and harmony you will need to find something to appease your brain and live without the stress and problems associated with your drug needs. Be it methadone, pain management .. whatever legal works get with it. Give yourself and other people around you a break. Its just life...get on with it.......

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I am writing in this forum to be a warning to those considering this horrible "miracle". im living on hell right now. My husband is detoxing off suboxone and this is waaayyy worse than heroine psychologically. He's paranoid really bad, having hallucinations, can't sleep, has rapid heart rate,high blood pressure.....this is just the beginning. Im ready to walk away from this insanity!! He was only on 4 miligrams and we dropped him down to 2mgs and he's freaking out. Good luck getting off.

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Black Merc,

Are you sure he's shooting the subs? Most active addicts that have suboxone around use it for when they can't find their DOC, or when they're trying to detox. That's usually why it's sold on the street. Other than the placebo effect you really can't get high on suboxone once you stabilize. It's possible if you always stay well below the ceiling level to feel some euphoria- but it's nothing like the actual users DOC.

Honestly, for the active addict there's much more desirable drugs to shoot, snort, or swallow than suboxone.

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My son is on suboxone and has been for about 6months i have just found out that he is shooting this up at least twice a week.what are the dangers of this????

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Passages I always see the commerical and have always wondered about it but am skeptical because they claim to have a cure. Twelve step programs and treatment do encourage getting to the root of the problems and relapse prevention, so what makes this book so different? Thats wonderful and encouraging to hear that your sober after such a longtime of using. It would be interesting to hear about what you learned and how this approach to addiction has worked for you.

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I pray you get this although it's been years since u posted. Is your loved one still abusing? I'f nothi g else has worked; 12 step etc. there is a solution. It worked for me, an abuser of 20 years after everything else failed. Google "passages malibu". There is a book put out by this re-hab center titled "The Alcohol and Addiction Cure" that can and will CURE his disease. Everyone says its NOT curable yet lable it a disease. It IS a disease and There IS a cure. And it's found through reading this book. Unlike anything I have ever experienced this book helps find the underlying causes that lead to addiction. The drugs are covering something so deep so painful that only the sensation of them seem to make everything okay. I hope this message finds you, and anyone else looking for the cure.

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Sam, I agree with you totally. I too am tapering off. It's a little uncomfortable but I am going to do it. I'm a little older than you, but have a work related injury and money is my problem. Worker's comp won't pay for the subs and here in Ohio there are $7,50 a piece and $200 for the office visit. It's out of this world. I'm down to a quarter of a pill a day. Few problems with my stomach but I will do this. Good luck to you!!

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Hi I've been on suboxone now for over 6 years, I was one of the first people in my area to get on it, my life has progressively decayed even on this "miracle drug" yes I'm not rippin and running but I seem to fall back into the same bs constantly, I just had a baby with girlfriend 10 mnths ago, what a blessin, and we moved and stopped the games, now my life is much better, I have a job and my son is clothed and fed and growing like a weed, what I'm trying to say is you have to change your self and life along with your drug use and only then will your life and this drug actually work for you

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