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My son has been on suboxone for over 1 year now. He was a herion addict for over 12 years. Been clean off and on during that time. I have seen a personality change in him which is almost intolerable. It is like he is fine one minute and then goes off the wall the next. Has anyone who has been on suboxon or knows someone who has been seen a personality change.

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Well I have been researching plenty about addiction and ways to get off it. It is very hard to understand and everyone is different. I myself do feel a bit of a hypocrite as I sit and read these posts and after what I said. ( quit without depending on anything else ) . That being said , I am currently taking Champix for quitting smoking. So I do apologize for my comment. Cause I know I can't just quit...I have tried.
I am researching suboxone because my daughter is a heroin addict. I went with her and we got her started on this treatment. Unfortunately, I just found out she is selling them for Heroin. This is a very difficult situation to deal with. I watch my daughter , and it is so upsetting to see what she has done to herself. She still does not admit she needs help ( mom , I am not addicted I just need to use so I don't get sick ) . It is very hard watching what she is doing to herself and her family. We have somewhere for her to go to get help lined up , she refuses and help and gets furious when we even suggests she needs the help. She does not inject she smokes and snorts. She is also using cocaine. We just moved her in with her sister, but she can not stay there. We did it because she started the suboxone . But we need to get her out of the house as she has become very abusive. She is 29 years old and has lost everything. It is a struggle for everyone. I am scared if she takes methadone or suboxone she will never be free from drugs.
Once again I apologize for my thoughts.

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Did you read my reply to your post??

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Is your son talking to a professional? Being an addict for 12 years, your son has other issues other than addiction. For those 12 years your on DID NOT GROW on an emotional level. Feelings/emotions that are "normal" for non addicts are NOT for him. They have been numbed for 12 years and haven't been used. Now, he is "feeling" things that he hasn't in 12 years and doesn't know how to deal with it. I can only speak for myself. I was an addict for 35 years and after getting clean I had many issues to deal with. Feelings that are "normal" for non-addicts on a day to day basis were brand new to me and I needed help learning how to LIVE!! That was the hardest part. I still deal with it after 5 years clean. I took my first shot of heroin at 15 years old and didn't stop until I was 49. All cases are different....as are people but I can tell you this. Emotionally an active addict DOES NOT deal with emotions the way a non-addict does. There is a lot more to getting clean than just quitting the drugs. Trust me on that.

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STOP BLAMING THE CURE, people! I had a horriffic pain pill addiction for 20 years....3 rehabs, hundreds of thousands of meetings....and I COULD NOT STOP until I started Suboxone. I have not had a pill in 3 years and my doseage of Suboxone has only LOWERED. I'm a lifer. The minute I stop Suboxone I will go RIGHT back to looking for pills. Addicted to Suboxone my A**. I've never felt better and will take Suboxone til I die.

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That's great that you found as you put it "The inner strength" to get clean and I'm truly happy for you. You should keep in mind though that your habit wasn't exactly extreme and you were only an addict for 3 years. I was an addict for 35 years....shot dope at 15 and never stopped. I was taking 450mg of methadone daily at the end of my addiction and I can tell you this. I know for a fact the SUBOXONE saved my life and there is no doubt in my mind I'd be dead had it not been available when I finally decided I'd had enough. So when you give advice try to keep in mind that everybody is different. Different chemistry and different circumstances. I don't plan on being a lifer on suboxone but I know this. NOTHING is worse than a methadone kick....except benzos and you're lucky you got out of the game before you ever had to experience either. Good luck and stay clean.

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I was addicted to 80mg Oxy's, Morphine patches, Norco's, whatever I could get my hands on, for over three years. I was injecting about $100 worth of Heroin a day when I decided id had enough. I used Suboxone for the first three days and I had a sneeking suspicion I was only prolonging the inevitable, so I quit using them. The withdrawls were extremely intense, but I was determined and pulled thru it. 14 days from my last use, I finally felt somewhat normal again. My point is YOU PLAY, YOU PAY! Im sick of people crying that they cant handle the withdrawls! You won't die from withdrawls! Everyones always looking for a quick fix. Like weight loss pills, if youve been fatting off for years a pill isnt going to magically melt off the pounds. If youve been abusing drugs for years a pill wont magically make it so you never have to suffer withdrawls. Ive been drug free for over 3 years now. Never went to rehab or a meeting, and ive never relapsed. Find your inner strength!

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Go ahead and reply but I would bet my life on it that your NOT an addict or anyone who has ever struggled with addiction! It is a tough road and not everyone walked out to the local dealer and purchased drugs, some like me had 4 back surgeries and the addiction took over my life. It wasn't intentional! I blame no one but myself but people who post things saying to just stop don't realize that is not an option. So if you want to post I suggest you try to understand the disease first!

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I am not a fool and you have NO idea if I have had a problem with addiction. Oh hey and I am also allowed to comment.

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Apparently you have never had a problem with addiction! If you don't know DON'T comment! Fool!

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I have to agree with you, I think if we make it more difficult to continue the use of Heroin .
If it's time to get clean...tough it out and maybe relapse may be thought about more seriously. If one does not want to go through the pain of withdrawal maybe one shall not strt the addiction again.

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The whole thing is SAD that Dr.'s are compromising their integrity to keep patients on Suboxone because it is such good money in their pocket. They get a kick-back from every Rx their write from the Drug Company, then their is the monthly appointment fee and then the Co-pay or added costs that they apply to Suboxone patients. Some will charge up to $600.00 cash before you can make your first appointment. All this is just money to the Dr.'s. Suboxone is not meant to be taken for more than 14 to 20 max. that is it!!! Or you will have to go through another detox coming off the Suboxone. The double whammy is that you are not only coming off an opiate, but an antagonist as well. I wish I never would have taken Suboxone. This man-maid drug stays in your system for a long time..which means a long and drawn out withdrawal. My suggestion..do your research, not just on-line..on-line is unreliable at times. Go into top Medical Journals on drug addiction and dependency..opiates and withdrawals. You will find the answers to your questions, maybe not what you want to here, but I am all about the truth. I am on day 32 and it dose slowly get better. I drink lots of fluids, I exercise every day, I am off all psych drugs, because they do contribute to the mess in your head-this is a very controversial statement, but until I went off everything, I was still dependent on something. Never believed that until I did it and believe me, I took Prozac for 24 years. I do Yoga every day and try to stay still for Meditation. I take only natural sleep aids-Melatonin, sleepytime tea and Valerian Root. I hit my bottom this time and when you do that, the only way is up!!! Good luck to anyone who is struggling with this issue, my heart dose go out to you, it isn't easy....but it's worth it to be clean and free..I already feel less depressed and I am still detoxing..

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Yeah me, but its more of a depression thing with me i think. I done Drugs for most my life and im just quiting them for 1 yr today. Most ppl say the same about me too. That i am moody at times. REALLY MOODY.

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I have been on Suboxone for 3 years. Dr.'s felt that this was the best drug for me because of cronic pain issues. Not true. The Dr's are in it for the money only. You need to educate yourself on the dangers of Suboxone now and get your son off it immediately. In using Suboxone, I was irritiable, started shoplifting-who knew where that came from? It lead to drinking and just down hill from there. I started researching the ill effects of Suboxone, not only on the internet, but in Medical Journals and it appears to be one of the "bad" ones that gets into your bones-like Methadone. I have been off Suboxone for 2 months now and still detoxing! It seems that the detox symptoms could last up to 8 months to a year-which sucks. But, on the bright side, I did live through the sever detox's and I am feeling better..very slightly every week that goes by. I have found alternative methods to deal with my discomforts and after this detox...I am so done with opiates..

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Your son could be suffering from a mood disorder such as bipolar disorder, which is quite common in people who abuse opiates. This could also have been the reason why he started abusing opiates in the first place. He could also have an anxiety disorder, both of which require separate treatment in addition to the opiate abuse. Perhaps he should be admitted to a dual disorder unit of a psychiatric facility for a few days so he can be observed by trained specialists who have experience in diagnosing dual disorders., its a common, and usually once diagnosed, very treatable.disorder, which also makes the opiate dependence much more easily managed. You are not alone. Good luck !

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Hi.like.I just read your post and felt I needed to reply. I was addicted to oxys and soma...15-20 a day each for 11 years and I had finally had enough and spoke to my Dr. Who hooked ma up with an addiction specialist who put me on webs. He told me that it would be a short time on them if I was ready. He also said that drs are abusing the way they treat patients because of the money they make. Drs make money from the visits to their office, the drug itself. I had to got every week and be monitored. So lots of money..I have no ins. But I suggest you go to an addiction specialist that will not keep u on subs for years! I was petrified of w/d and going on subs was the BEST thing I ever could have done...with a great Dr. ! But if you stay with the Dr. Who isn't afraid to keep u on subs, you will never get better. I'm not saying that it was easy but I would never have made it going cold turkey!! But man this was much easier...weaning off the subs isn't bad at all..not at all like cold turkey! Get a new Dr.'if u can. Good luck, I know what your going thru!

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I agree totally with you and I am on suboxone... I was totally clean and SOBER 2yr 7mo. working a twelve step program. Had a problem in my program(4th /5th) step. Went to a doctor got on suboxone out of fear of relapse .. ended up with my worst crack addiction ever...and now cant get sober and still on subs 3 yr later. I was already in mental relapse maybe thats why I sought out subs... Yes, they help with withdrawl but you have to detox from them as well. There is no easier softer way but the nature of the beast keeps making me search for one even though I know better.

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I am on suboxone for chronic pain. I have abused pain meds in the past but my biggest struggle has been daily,debiliating pain. The pain changed absolutely everything in my life. Suboxone has helped a great deal with the pain and I don't feel the need for pain meds. It's certainly not a perfect medication but has greaty increased my ability to enjoy and participate in every day life!

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I had, a friend, with an emphasis on (had), his personality changed dramatically. He became so violent quitting heroin, but he was doing 10 to 30 bags of heroine a day, and was an iv user for twenty yrs. Im guessing its something like a "dry drunk"

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I need some insight as to what I am experiencing starting 8/2 sub on Friday 11/16. I feel as though I could rip someone's head off for starts. I was on 90 MSG of methadone and 30 mg'g up to four times a day for breakthrough pain. I am a chronic pain patient. I have become tolerate to all other opioids. I did a taper and went two solid days with nothing before my first dose of sub. Someone please please tell me why I am so foul and angry at anything or anyone? Please help me understand. This

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This is so true. It's just another form of addiction. Who knows what the long term affects are. I've seen my husband to to stop these and withdrawals were severe so it stated again. Mood swings. Yes. I'd have to say it is an affect. Funny though that the doctors make you pay cash even if you have insurance. Really sad.

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