Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Page 3) (Top voted first)

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hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind

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Hanna, I tried leaving you my e mail, but I don't know if it will show up..If not, I am on facebook
Patrice Bedrosian-Nagel
Hopefully you can get in touch with me through there
TTYS
Pat

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I came on this site to see what others have done to ease the wd from h or roxy..I relapsed after 7 yrs clean about 4 yrs ago..I started smoking weed then taking e then coke and then someone gave me a perc 30 and I sniffed it..I loved it and the use progressed to about 10-15 perc 30 a day for a yr and half then I got pregnant and was scared I cut my use down but sneer up having my son addicted ( I wasn't using a lot the month he was born) but he still had to stay in the nicu to wd:( he is perfect and healthy and u would never know but ell right before he turned 1 I was still using and figured Wtf I mine as well so h again..its cheaper and I can get high and that was march now i got my fiance to do it and we both been spending every extra $ on it..Aw tried

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with only 3, it'll be challenge. because you'll need an 8 the first day. the 2nd day, TRY 4 MG. if you're good, then good. the 3rd day, try 3mg, and then go down 1 mg so you last a week. you see, when you go down to .5, it's gonna be rough. but nothing like full agonist w/d's. YOU CAN DO IT....you'll just have to deal w/anxiety and depression for about 2 weeks

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Im going thru the exact thing as you now, i started on sub 3 days ago after taking 10-20 norcos/percs a day stemming from an old back injury and have tried to stop cold turkey and ween off them. The WD were so bad i would never last more than 2 days. I finally told my doctor I have to get off of these and just deal with the back pain on my own. I got a script for 2 8mg/2mg subs a day and was scared as hell when i ran out of my pills. On top of that I moved into a new home and had a s*** load of stuff to do for the move and was afraid of going into WD and being useless. The subs have literally SAVED my life, I feel like a new person now and have not had a single craving. It is amazing! Good luck to you and to anyone else reading this give them a try , they REALLY work !!!

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Try to wait until you need to take it not when u want to

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I would need more than a half the first day.... so take as much as you need to feel better i would say up to 2 the first day then lower ever day you go...

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I am right where you were two months ago. I'm on day 2 no opiates with the smallest dose of subox. I have stopped before for a month or so but this time I am so tired of being sick and what I have done to my life. I read your entire post and it is making me feel better already. ( I was starting too feel a little blah)

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Look, I'm trying to do a very low dose rapid taper to get over very mild but debilitating withdrawals from moderate Vicodin, methadone, codeine, and tramadol abuse. Sounds stupid for someone whose worst symptoms are sneezing, watery eyes, headache and lethargy. I could have taken 5 days off from work and been through the worst. However, I am a full blown addict. Suboxone is best used as a tool to keep you clear headed enough to join a support group, find a sponsor, and walk you through the 12 steps of recovery. I promise you if you just take that step to go to a meeting, and talk to people with similar problems you will feel more relief than you would by simply "maintaining" your dose for years. I know countless people who were on high doses of oxys, methadone, heroin and suboxone. And suboxone I'm talking 24 mg daily for 4-12 months, slowly weening, while seeing a therapist and finding either an AA or NA sponsor (you'll find alcoholics in NA, addicts in AA. It's the same disease, the same solution.) these people do NOT got thru the prolonged withdrawal you guys describe. What drugs like suboxone are supposed to do are stabalize you so you can work on your recovery. It's cool being able to talk on forums like this, but getting out of the house, surrounding yourself with people who have been thru what your going thru and talking to them is where recovery starts. We addicts need a support group, we need to go out in public and admit we have a problem. Sitting around the house thinking about withdrawal or reading about withdrawal will only increase your already insane amount of fear. When I was 27 I was arrested, coming off of a 50mg methadone/8mg Xanax habit. I had been on a 5 month binge. The first day was terrible. I'd be crying, smashing my walls, breaking stuff and out of no where laughing hysterically. I was a mess and I wanted to blow my head off. I went to a local AA meeting and it was NOT what I thought. People of all ages, cute girls, people laughing and having fun. I was actually mad. "Why are these f***ing addicts laughing and having fun?" Cuz they share experiance strength and hope, without judging you. They are mostly recovered people. They keep attending people like us. That's why they're there. I made some lifelong friends that first day. We went out to eat afterwards. I felt better after that. The 6 months of horrid withdrawal did not happen as my therapist promised me it would. Please, realize there are people who are just like you, who suffer the exact same way you do, who are looking for a solution, and a friend, and hope. Just like you. Chances are there's a meeting within a mile of your house. I would never deny that withdrawal is real, especially to those of you who are have been on high suboxone doses for years. But you are literally cheating yourself by not at least giving recovery (12 steps) a try. I promise it will become one of the most vital tools in not only your sobriety but in all of life's problems. I relapsed two years ago and stayed away from all the wonderful people who helped my kick my alcoholism. I was too ashamed to look them in the eyes and tell them I f***ed up. But I finally caved, broke down crying and poured out my heart to these people. Not only did they make me feel important and cared for, but three of my old buddies admitted to not being sober as well, and now were all in this fight together. It's like I have teammates in the battle against this disease. You all deserve the same. Don't think your alone. Don't think your problems are unique. And you don't have to be sober to join AA/NA. Just gotta have the desire to quit. That means if you f*** up you can be honest and people will help you. For some of you it may well be the first time you've ever felt accepted in your lives. I know that was true for me. My point is there is a solution that works for people everyday. Don't try to fight this disease on your own. Us addicts treat ourselves like utter s***. Be good to yourselves. You deserve help, friends, and acceptance. And most of all sobriety and happiness. All of that can be yours if your just willing, open minded, and honest. Not saying your withdrawal is all in your head, trust me I had DTs and seizures from drinking. I'm just saying there's one proven way to combat addiction: find people with similar problems and talk to them. Once we start working at our recovery, we straighten out spiritually. And when that has happened, we straighten out physically and mentally. And don't get me wrong forums like this are sobriety tools in themselves. Just please do yourself a favor and check out a 12 step meeting if you've never tried one. Don't be afraid. Chances are you won't be the only "newcomer" in the room. There's so much love and understanding at these meetings. All of you deserve that love, acceptance, and chance at a new life. Good luck and god bless!

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i havent started yet :( but i need too!

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Wow Matt. I am sitting in my car with a box of unopened sub tabs, perusing heroin detix/addiction boards and just read your post. In the past year I've been working on weaning off H to go on a sub detox and I just can't make the jump. I'm so scared to do it. I want it more than anything and have hit my lowest of lows. Your post is encouraging...I'm going to save it and tape to my fridge. Thank u

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To the cop,
We need more cops like you that understand addiction a little more. I know some cops do have a child, relative, or loved one who is an addict and they are more understanding of certain situation. I just want to say thank you for having an open mind and a huge heart when it comes to us addicts!!!! I hope everything has and continues going well for your son!!!! He is blessed to have a parent like you!!!! Thanks again and stay safe out there!! Thank you for putting yourself out there everyday in danger in order to make this world a safer place for our future!!! Cops do not get the credit they deserve!!! So thank you once again!!!! Love: HopeForMyFuture

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I was told the less suboxtone you use the better off your suboxtone detox is.

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I wondered why you took that comment co personally,until I read the last sentence of your comment. I don't go to NA,but in my opinion,if you are on any opiate,you are not clean. If you are using something like suboxone to help yourself get off harder opiates that were abused,and it works for you,good!! Who cares what anyone's definition of clean is. Whether they go to NA or not. Opiate addiction is no joke. And neither is getting off of them. However we all have to do it,then so be it.

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Thank you for your post. I'm on day two of suboxone withdrawal I took 10 mg day one. 4 mg day two. 1.5 mg day three .5 mg day four. I have not slept not eating. And I feel weak. How long will this go on?

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i take as little as suboxone as possible. just take enough to take away ur withdrawels. the last thing u want is to be addicted to subs. that s*** is even harder to get off then Herion. trust me, i been through it all

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Omg you sound just like me. I did the same thing, I just want my energy back. I wanna be normal again! When I'm out n doing s*** I feel fine but once I'm home sittin around I get the itch for them!!! Wtf!!! Just know the thoughts will go away n u will get energy back. I did this back in 2009 stayed sober then got injured bad on my nursing job n the last year had to take perk 30s. I used a small amount of subs a few days also tapered down wit perk 10s for two days then perk 5 for two days. Just keep swimming! Hahahaha sorry my son is obsessed with finding nemo and he's watching it now n that damn just keep swimming song is stuck in my damn head hahahaha.you can do this. In 2009 when I did it, I didn't feel energized or normal or no drug thoughts about 3 weeks after not taking anything good luck keep in touch

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Here goes.... Been taking perc 10's (about 10-15 a day) for about 10 years now. I've tried to clean up several times, even tried the methodone route. Tried to do it the right way, going through a clinic. But, I'm a nurse and I cannot risk someone I have a professional relationship with seeing me there. Naturally, I relapsed. I have to stop.... Recently met my soul mate.... And I cannot risk losing what I have. I'm so terrified of the withdrawals. Bought some Subs today (8 mg strips) and I'm gonna try this on my own. I cut it in 4ths and took one about 4 this afternoon. So far, so good. How should I dose myself in the beginning? Should I be on a schedule or just take a little bit as the w/d's begin to come back? I have 10 strips so I figure that should get me through? Any advice is much appreciated. I've been here and failed so many times before. On the outside, I appear healthy, successful and "together" but I'm living a double life and it's killing me.....suggestions?

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Thanks Matt. Very inspiring story. However, as a professional in the medical community I am terrified of being "called out" and discussed outside the meeting. I am a nurse and if that should happen, it would ruin my career.... Thoughts?

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Thank you so much. I got the Subs Friday and I've not taken a full strip yet. The nausea is awful but haven't has the other typical signs of w/d (runny nose, achy legs, excessive yawning) last little bit I had of Sub was this morning at 7 and I'm praying to make it through the day on that dose. Admittedly, I am craving the "euphoria" but I refuse to give in. Just want to be normal again (whatever that is). Pathetic to make 80k a year and never have a dime. Thanks for the advice.

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Hey all. I've read most of the posts about this thread. Seems there's a lot of pill heads out there... Not saying its bad or whatever just not familiar with them. They don't do it for me. I boot heroin, and have been for about six months, and smoked it for about six months previous to that. My most favorite thing to do is pour out 10 to 12 bags of h into my spoon, 80 units of water, cook, draw, and shoot. The rush is intense, and lasts for hours. Cool right? Sounds like fun to some of you? No! This s*** has ruined my f***ing life. I don't have to get into detail, I'm sure if your here reading these posts this late at night than it's ruined your life in some way or another. Well any way I'm proud to say that enough is enough and I f***ing quit this s***. 10 days and going strong! Trust me it's no cake walk, even with suboxone. But let me tell you that suboxone is your friend and your only friend. First off it takes a lot of will power and saying no to yourself a lot. Then you gotta get real. Use your suboxone wisely, make a plan with it, spread it out and ween off. Take it for less than 2 weeks. To me it's not meant to make you feel fine and dandy. Remember narcotics are some serious s***. And quitting should be taken very seriously. Only like 30% of people can quit and stay clean. You/me are addicts and always will be. And know that six months down the road you/me will probably still want to use. But where will that get us? Nowhere. Absolutely nowhere. Anyways what I'm getting at is use the suboxone and be happy that you got it, cause it does make the process easier. And helps with most/all withdrawl symptoms, the physical ones anyways. The subs will do there job, you have to do yours, and that is fight the devil in the back of your head that's telling you to feel high. Fight him hard. The only way to get better and turn your s*** around is not do any. Get your life back. You can do it. Here's a site that helped me. Check it out. howtoquitheroin.com and most importantly if you go on the site and click on "quit with suboxone" and scroll to the bottom they have layed out suboxone dosage charts. These are very helpful and the site really is too. Read it. Get inspired. Quit. Get your life back. This post is off track I know but if I reached out and touched somebody, even one person than thank god. Post how it's going, and hang in there, you can do it. Believe.

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