What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 26)
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I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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I realize that chronic pain can be frustrating (for lack of a better word). However, after reading all the comments, you hopefully see that chronic pain is an individual problem; as is, the medications and other methods (including marijuana)---for controlling it. If there were a definitive answer, these comments wouldn't exist.

So, keep experimenting. The right combination is available. It's just hell discovering it!

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I have tapered off Dilaudid myself twice. If you want to get off it without the sickness and pain you need to take one pill less each 2nd day. So if you take 6 then you take 5 for 2 days then you take 4 for 2 days and 3 for 2 days and 2 for 2 days and 1 for 2 days and a half for two days and a quarter for 2 days and then none and you wont have all the stomach pain and vomitting.I have been taking dilaudid for many years for pain i suffer from a spinal injury and I find it is great compared to the oxycontin. Dilaudid has relieved my pain better than the oxys and it is roughly 3.2 times stronger than oxycodone 1mg dilaudid= 3.2 mg oxy or and 8mg is like chewing a 25mg oxy if they made them

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I truley understand the Dr delima. Mine always says I'm under medicated. But that fog you live in is terrible if you take large doses. I broke my neck and live with that constant pain, I also had a post surgical mersa staph infection that damn near did me in. So I understand. Your so right on the people that abuse this drug. They make it so hard to get what we need to live. The price of oxycotin is rediculous. My share of 2x80mger is 379. a month. Have you tried mscontin? It's extended release morphine. I have found if I go 1 yr on oxycontin and then 1 yr on MScontin, the change seems to work as I get use to one and then the other. Good luck.

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hi i just saw your post ive tried it all duragesic the best but wont stay on my skin ive covered it done it all so im off that im on roxicodone 30mg 8 a day with 10mg of methadone 3 times a day not working what is dilaudid? i need a long acting med with the roxis bit tried it all opana oxycotin etc my pain is from my toes to my hands bad back from car accident and i had a viral infection that attacked my joint n i have permanent damage from that i think it was u that said u just dont care about anything when on the roxis its so true im so different i want off i tried i cant walk in the morning till i take 2 of my pills im 35 n i feel like im 75. any suggestions? i said i want off to all my docs n they say u need it yes i do if u dont understand pain n how much it affects your life then no one should comment i hate the meds i do but no choice. someone have any ideas for me please help everytime i take a new med i panic i freak out scared of how i will feel n to u a-holes who break it snort it u got probs its people like u that r making it hard for others to get meds they changed the oxycotin pills so u wont be able to break them anymore u can if u take a hack saw im sure n there is a shortage of the roxicodones now because the fda is limiting how much each pharmacy can have n like i said its due to the people who abuse it u wanna get high go make sumthin of your life go for a walk on the beach with good friends n good laughs thats a high so please any advice pass it thanks!!!!

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I think switching to the 8 mg dilaudids for breakthrough pain would be a better mix than the 15mg650s you are currently taking Sara

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I agree completely.... No one can judge unless u have been there...living with chronic pain is no joke to say the least... Trying to find the strenghth day after day to get out of bed, get dressed, work etc is a huge but huge mission to do with chronic pain.... The pain mgmt medication helps plenty... Either that or in bed for the rest of ur life.. For me I would prefer death...i can't even lay in bed comfortable with my pains..imagine with no medication... Dnt judge... Or u may just be in our shoes one day!!! This I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy!!

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Thank you for saying that! I agree 100 percent. I only go to these kind of sites to get helpful info. That dumbass obviously only took pain meds to abuse them. Its people like them that make it so hard on us when we deal with the doctors. I was in a severe car accident a little while back and I'm always feeling like doctors and some other people don't believe me about how much pain I'm in. It hard cuz it seems like too many people judge, when they've never experienced something like that. And they don't understand that a lot of people aren't lying about it. If it was my choice, I would be pain free and never have to take meds. Its not like everyone enjoys having to live life like this.

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41, who are you talking to?

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My friend, you are on a dangerous road! I have watched my brother and sister commit suicide because they went down the same road your post leads me to believe you are on. They could not get off. Get honest with yourself. But most of all, if you want to be an addict, don't take anyone else with you! That would be as low as someone could go. Please get help.

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I've got several medical conditions (EDS, fibromyalgia and severe osteoarthritis, I'm only 35) that put me in extreme pain 24 hours a day. Under doctor's care, I have been on slowly increasing amounts of extended release oxycontin for 8 years now and am up to 80mg twice a day (as well as Lyrica and Mobic). That may seem like a high dose and it does help the constant pain and I don't get tired or a "high" feeling from it. Oxycontin doesn't take all the pain away, I mostly live at a 6 on the pain scale. I do not like to raise my dose so I live with the pain. However, sometimes the pain gets so bad (i can hardly move without pain so bad it makes me almost pass out) that I have to take Percocet 15mg/650mg for breakthrough pain relief, but it barely helps. Instead of raising that dose or taking more, I was wondering if switching to dilaudin or something else would work better as a breakthrough medication. Any ideas or suggestions?

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I need a friend myself.

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I have been taking 5 Dilaudid 8 mg a dayfor over a year know and find they have worked alot better for me than oxycodone. DIlaudud is stronger than oxycodone. 1mg or dilaudud =3.2mg of oxycodone. In my experience though I find I often run out a day or two before my next script. Just call your Dr if you do as he will issue you the next script as you can not stop taking this medication suddenly. He has to reissue it.

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I've been on painkillers since I was 16 years old...in February I'll be 31, so it's been basically more than half of my life. It's insane how much my body can handle and still want more. I'm only 5 foot, and barely weigh 100 pounds, yet I can chew two or 3 Oxy 80's and function like a normal person. Just recently, due to a change in my prescription plan, I was forced to switch from Oxy 80's (I'm prescribed 4 pills day or 320mgs) to Dillaudid, 8mg pills (I think he prescribed about 12 pills day of those.) Although I'm not entirely out of my 80's yet, I will be soon, and I'm terrified of how I'll feel once all I have is the Dillaudid pills. I've kind of been mixing it up to get used to the transition slowly, but I'm still worried about it. Does anyone have any idea how I'll feel or if I'll be ok?

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I have had blunt force traumas in car accidents 7 were drunk drivers the rest just distracted. A total of over 30. Ran over by a pepsi fork lift and it knocked me 10 feet in the air fell 14 feet onto my back off a refrigeration unit and had 3 mear fatal accidents in cars in past 18 months. People who do not live with pain that never lets up, spasms that nearly cause your bones to snap. Neuropathy so severe if affects your intestines digestion facial muscles and nerves.
Well take your politacally correct brainwashed attitude and go beat your loved ones not people trying to assist each other in dealing with the daily horrors of pain management which by the way if not treated is quite like having a heart attack or stroke just waiting in the wings. I know I was a BSRN in an ER.
Pain management is no different in complexity as is diabetes and insulin. Both can put you at deaths door in no time.
What few peole realise is that all those antidepressants are even more dangerous and in some cases you CAN NOT stop their use as it destroys your brain chemisry.
So educate yourself before you pass judgement on issues you know nothing about.

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Hey I heard that they came up with Dilaudid ER's now..go to their website

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BRUCE. NY You can break suboxn into small pieces and tapper off over a long period. I did it and it worked well. The sweating is a bit of a problem but it beats the hardship of hard withdrawl.

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PLEASE READ THIS YOU GUYS!!!! I'll try to be short and quick b/c I am sincerely sympathetic to everyone on this post.....
I want you guys to remember chronic pain is a disease just like someone who breaks a leg and walks around on crutches - except it's for the rest of your life.... It's like someone bad lungs who gets bronchitis every month .... It's a real disease and you should not be ashamed that you are on pain medication to manage that pain...

At some point because prescription pain medication becamea favorite recreational drug it has made doctors and patients and society alike decide that anyone who needs pain managment is a junkie and should feel ashamed and that is ridiculous. The best thing in the world is a doctor who understands your pain, and who will treat your pain b/c your life will change when your pain is at least bearable and manageable.
It may seem like it would take forever but the best thing anyone can do is continue to try the best mix of time released and breakthrtough meds until you find what keeps your pain at a tolerable level b/c as we all know who suffer with chronic pain it's rare that we will live many moments toitally free from pain.
I also suggest you guys have confidence in yourself that you wil come through this.
THE CRIMINALLY NEGLEGENT. I hope you don't give up b/c you deserve what everyone else in life deserves - so ge ta new attorney, get anew doctor, and get some support via therapy , a psychiatrist as well as support groups, because pain shouldn't ruin your life. There are too many options out there when you have the right people helpin gan dsupporting you.

If you are in pain -- and you take a daily regimine of pain medication - you maybe physically and psychologically addicted but IT'S OKy.... you're going to be addicated for the rest of your life --- it's how you let the addiction affect you that counts... If you take your medication as prescribed and live as best a life you can tha tyou can be proud of then stand confident in tellin ganyone who looks down on you where they can stick it! You are no different than the bipolar person taking anti depressant, or socially inept taking xanex, or the person with ADD taking aderall.... Medication was made to relieve suffering and you shoudl NOT FEEL BAD to be taking what relieves your suffering.
If you continue to suffer get a new doctor until someone helps you b/c you deserve that!!!
AND TO THOSE TRYING TO QUIT... First why did you start - get to the bottom of your reasons behind your addiction b/c it's not just recreational if it's been that difficult to quit --- go see a psychiatrist specializing in addiction and you'd be surprised how much easier it will be to get off...... And cold turkey is impressive but nearly impossible for many --- try small steps that don't seem so difficult day to day to reach!!

Good luck.... i'm saying this as a 28 year old mother suffering from chronic degenerative lumbar disc that began when I was 22 yrs and has progressed to the point of almost constant pain.... I'm no where near you guys' pain as I am still only taking 4 perkisets a day and Zipsor plus IBprofen daily and it manages my pain pretty good as long as I don't sit for longer than 20 minutes at a time, I don't do thinks like rock the baby, or walk on hard floor without orthotics in my shoes, and a billion other things I've had to put in place in my daily life tohelp manage my pain --- but it does affect me every single day and I'm just sympathetic when I hear people giving up or being ashamed....

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Heading in for emergency surgery this week, my surgeon found an infection rooted deep in the bones of my arm and literally needs to get in there and scrape it out and pull all the hardware out. I am sure I wlll be on morphine in the hospital. My surgeon believes that getting rid of this infection which has been eating my bones from the inside out will relieve alot of my pain. No one ever caught this because a highly specialized test is needed and he had a suspicon and ordered it. If he hadnt, he said I would not have been here come Xmas. So I am hoping after surgery and the post op pain I can simply remain on hte Fentanyl patch. I dont seem to experience withdrawl, but I have a long standing prescription for clonidin in case. It works by slowing my heart and the anxiety welll.. Hope the surgery minimizes the pain and Fentanyl is all I will need until they go back in about 6 months downt the road to fuse the bones in my arm. I dont feel that after the surgery i need a short and long acting, I am sure Fentanyl will work just fine.

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Bruce To get off suboxn start breaking the pills into small pieces and trickle down over a week or so longer if you have to. Then just stop. Maytbe your dr can give you something to help but it won't be that bad. You can do it man. Prayer doen't hurt.

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After a bad car accident I was prescribed percocets and quickly got addicted. I was taking the 30's about five times a day and eventually decided it wasnt worth it anymore. They were very helpful for the pain but became the biggest part of my life. I depended on them to get out of bed and withdrawl was terrible. I went to a medicated detox center that was awesome. I know people who do not have pain and dont know much about these medications say to just suck it up and quit but we know its not that easy. you dont have to put yourself through that. there are free detox/rehabs in every state so its worth it to find one. even if it's far. it's your life!! I was given subutex which is just like suboxone. I was detoxed for a total of 13 days, they slowly ween you off the subutex before releasing you. I was told I could go to a suboxone doctor and get on those but i decided not to and I DONT RECOMMEND IT!! i have friends that have been on suboxones forever and they are just as bad on those as on pills. If you want to stop try taking the subutex or suboxone for a max of 6-8 weeks and ween yourself off of them starting with whole pills, then half, then quarters and so on. Everyone feels like once off them they're sick but the fact is that we've learned to be dependant on pills and not being on them makes us not feel as good, but thats what it feels like to be normal!! my advice would be trying detox, suboxone, and finding hobbies to keep yourself busy!!

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