Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 11) (Top voted first)
UpdatedI am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?
There is an alternative to treatment resistant depression using anti depressants. That is Adderall. It works immediately in relieving depression and will make you not even think you need pain pills when you are not really hurting.
I have been telling my explaining to my Drs this as well oxys best antidepressant
HOUSE they are synthetic copied from the alkaloid THEBAINE--it's the only NONNARCOTIC alkaloid of the Papaver Somniferum poppy...it's a STIMULANT!!! LOL we've been telling our docs that for years! Not only that, it increases T levels in your thyroid resulting in enhanced mood and energy. imho it is a necessary nutrient able to treat and cure many ailments much like Cannabis! I really think that's why it's scheduled so strictly. The healthier a population is, the less they're dependant on govt. Think of the countries that produce poppies and cannabis...Due to being illegal they can't use those substances as their national commodity, keeping them in poverty... By relying on the U.S. for financial aid the U.S. can 'negotiate' or impose various regulations on them as part of the deal. And you know our govt., they love to control not only individuals but countries as well.
A depressive episode can be triggered by problems, however, depression is caused by a disease of the brain. Speaking as someone who has been diagnosed with treatment resistant depression, I realize life is short and I will try anything to feel normal again. I want to be happy during the time I have left. I have tried just about every anti-depressants, psychotherapy, ECT treatment, a residential facility for treatment of mood disorders, inpatient care at hospitals, CBT, EMDR, all to no avail. If a prescription for a low dosage of hydrocodone will help me feel normal, even temporarily, I will risk addiction and withdrawal. I have survived bad side effects and severe withdrawal symptoms just from anti-depressants. What's the big deal of enduring one more if I have to. Please think before you speak next time. It's not that simple to enjoy the good moods, when there aren't any no matter how hard I try. I fight my demons all day every day knowing I will have to fight again tomorrow. It's a lonely and exhausting fight. That's why I say I would risk addiction and withdrawal from an opioid. At this point, it may be my only hope because I cannot keep living in my own personal hell.
SADIESURRENDER read the article Ignorance Kills! I'm not calling you ignorant but the doctors....most who are considered treatment resistant depressives are actually Edogenous deficient and require external opiates not antidepressants....too bad doctors have forgotten the many wonderful Godgiven benefits of poppies.
Opiate Era is over. You're never gonna get a Dr. to write you for depression. They will hardly give it to someone that's dying now. And I know I am a long time pain management patient turned addict from the drs at first then tolerance oc, morphine and H to being clean 6 years. And I know the system, if you even mutter a Tylenol to a doc now you be kicked out so fast your head will spin. I can't even get the meds I need to live a normal life because of ridiculous laws regarding stuff like this now. My state the only state TN put a law that no one can get subutex anymore just suboxone that has just 1 extra ingredient naloxone and that extra ingredient makes many people terribly sick like me and does nothing for pain for people who are in pain management but addiction too. We are F'ed when it comes to getting what we need but it don't matter because you can't fight the system. I know I tried, I had a normal life for 4 years until they did that law now I'm a shutin that can't do anything at 30 years old. I told the docs I'm gonna pretty much off myself or and be back on street drugs but they acted like they didn't hear me haha. They rather have me out breaking the law and or dead before they give me a med with one less ingredient then the one I'm on now. I know crazy right, you would think they would like the world to get better but Naw it's all about big pharma and what they want them to do and the DEA, but I'm 6 years clean but that don't matter because like I said they don't care.
Long story short it's never gonna happen. Drugs for depression ha get outta here you be lucky to get anything soon unless it's the newest thing big pharma is pushing because they are the dealers. They call the shots and they are getting out the Op business because of the DEA is having their war on Ops. That's just gonna make it worse because all these people that used to be normal. Lawyers, retired nurses, etc, will just be on street drugs. So get ready to have all your Meds changed or no Meds with alternative because that's what it's coming to. Meds will be a thing of the past soon and people that need them will just die off and the kids now will just know the alternative methods but they won't really need them because they will be healthy so yeah. If you really have you heart set on doctors writing you drugs for depression then you need your head checked for some other mental illnesses and yes I have depression, bipolar, anxiety, ADHD, stomach cancer from ulcers and my back scoliosis with other things wrong too with my back. So yeah they ain't giving me anything. I cry and wish I was dead but would pull the Trigg, but I'm a Christian so I won't do it. I don't wanna go to hell so I'm stuck until I get worse enough and maybe just maybe they might let me use hospice when I'm dying and I'm being totally serious. That's how much hope I have.
There's nowhere for me to go. My Docs don't know what kind of dr I should have to get the right meds I need and one is a former methadone clinic dr so if he can't tell me a name or even the type of dr I need then nobody can. So they have nothing for me, so I'm just gonna stay here and keep doing what I do every day wasting away until the lord says its my time.
GOODLUCKBUTNEVERGONNAHAPPEN,
I too live in TN and feel as you do. Being a Christian we don't have the luxury of pulling the trigger. I went from praying for death to praying for healing or death to just trusting God for healing...I've was doing great on my pain meds and then slowly started withdrawals from life...I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and found that Fentanyl which I was on caused it in menapausal women who are unable to do HRT. I went off Fentanyl and am becoming more myself! My pain doc and other pain docs no longer take my TennCare. I can't find a doc to give me more than 10mgs 4/day when I have twice reduced my usage instead of using increasingly more! If docs would've prescribed them every four hours instead of six (like they were created to be taken) none of this mess would've happened! Docs knew about tolerance! That's the best thing about Oxycodone! You can safely take a higher dose but doctors are p*****s who are all becoming medical w****s! We are to obey the laws of the land unless it conflicts with the word of God...that means the herb bearing seed cannabis Gen 1:29 is okay for us to use as pain relief....not sure bout smoking it but edibles, oils, salads, etc.
Thank you Spyz for this very interesting tidbit of information. I have never heard of endogenous deficiency never mind the fact that it can be a cause of refractory depression. I have every intention of discussing this with my doctor during my next appointment. If he knew about it, then he allowed me to suffer needlessly for years. Could he have been ignorant of this information or did he keep it from me on purpose? It all boils down to Big Pharma's bottom line. They are an evil, well oiled machine that are only interested in continuing to make their millions, while others like us have a disease with a pretty high mortality rate. Would the doctors not give a cancer patient chemo or a diabetic insulin? I don't think so because Big Pharma profits big time from those diseases and the medication those unfortunate individuals are prescribed. There is not enough profit for them to treat depression with bupe. Welcome to the machine.
Try cannibis I will make a believer out of you. I suffered from depression for as long as I can remember. I tried all the big Pharma drugs no help at all just making the more rich. So I tried Mother Nature and after my first dose was not feeling the debilitating effects of my depression. I'm not saying break the law but if the state you live in has medical canonic you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to at least check it out peace and good luck
A trick I found when I had a ton of allergy meds... including the inhaler! Since being on opies, I have been able to discontinue 5 meds but I remember using the inhaler for depression and energy....it's amphetamine based for difficult breathing..of opiates also help that as well...if withdrawal cause a histamine release then obviously opiates are an antihistamine... something they WERE once prescribed for! The history of opiates shows they were prescribed for just about everything depending on the dose! There was even the medical diagnosis of THINGS PERTAINING TO WOMEN! That would cover just about every Allenby from migraines to depression, fatigue, fibro etc., BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL MEDICINE! The new crap is killing us!
TERRY, The only things I can think of is to remind our docs that all that mess is for Primary Care Docs not Pain Docs! Also remind them that years ago folks were getting 12, 18 and 20 pills a day. 120/mg a day is a Normal dose! Other than that we need to petition the courts to self dose... or like Dallas Buyers Club, start Pain Clubs! I want the freedom to take what I THINK are suitable dosages, not what a frightened I'll-equipped Pain Doc thinks....we need to protest and boycott meds that hurt us...I hate fentanyl but some find great help from it....we have to figure a way to WAKE UP PAIN DOCS to proper prescribing at to one every four hours not this six hour crap... That's only for opiate naive folks and I don't think any Baby Boomers are that LOK GOOD OLE 70's prepared us for higher doses...it's all pretty simple...DEA needs to be disbanded anyway...every time somebody finds something that helps (cannabis, poppies, now Kratom) they throw it into schedule 1! They WANT us sick and gone! Their plan is to eliminate those who can't be part of their labor force when NWO is here....
Spyz, they treat us like animals. Only the strongest survive. Well I have news for the DEA, the FDA and any other organization that thinks that way. We are much stronger than any of them. We're still here despite them and we don't have to hide behind bureaucracy. We continue our personal battles with our illnesses and we usually do it alone. That's where real strength lies.
EXCELLENT points, people! And, sadly, you are right. Billions are made each and every year from the mass's? So why should they change? And the Dr's are just a step up from us. They aren't really profiting from the drugs themselves, that's BIG PHARMA. Yeah they get a few free lunches or dinners, and MAYBE a very small percentage for " pushing " a particular drug, but that's not even a drop in the bucket compared to BIG PHARMA. It is indeed a very sad and far reaching problem. I can't tell you how many " Dr's " I have absolutely driven to the brink with my limited knowledge of drugs, ESPECIALLY pain meds! I've gotten everything from a sly smile and " hey, you wanna fill in for me when I go on vacation? " to, " get the hell out of my office and don't come back! " lol....some, a very few, appreciate an educated patient, others, not so much. .well, thanks for reading, till next time, this has been HOUSE. Take care, take off, and be good to one another.
I have only read some of the many comments.
I have taken Vicoprofen for over ten years. It has been life changing. Truly, life changing! I had tried most every pain killer on the market for my peripheral neuropathy. It kept me from having to put my feet in ice water before going to sleep each night. Also, getting up in the middle of the night to do the same. I was so,so grateful! I could go to a mall with my wife and walk for some time, once again. I have never increased the dose and have never gotten any "high" from it's use.
Just sayin.
Spyz, LOL! Man you are soo right! I hate the one's that act so high and mighty cause they know that you need them. Now if we could only get the DEA out of the " practice " of medicine, MAYBE things would be better. I know this is not going to happen, too much money in it for the fed.ah well, one can dream. .....
HOUSE that's Ma'am LOL and SADIESURRENDER I meant 10mgs not 19!
Spyz. I recently had back surgery which helped tremendously for the herniated disc and spinal stenosis. I literally couldn't walk from the pain before the surgery. However, it has left me with chronic back pain which the doctor said the surgery would cause . I had no choice but to go through with it. I do have chronic back pain which has extremely limited my daily activity. I can barely do housework without crying from the pain, I can't take my pups out for a long walk like I used to, I love to bake but I can't stand for long periods of time which baking requires. I still bake but I do it sitting down which is pretty difficult. The pain is worse laying down than when I sit up, so when I wake up in the morning all I can is, well I can't post what I say on here. Lol. The pain has negatively impacted my life. I'm not sure if this falls into the category of pain management, but if it does, I have a feeling a pain management doctor would want to treat it with epidural shots instead of pain killers. Thanks for trying to think of a solution and for caring.
SadieSurrender- I am 65 and had a disc replaced last November after receiving 10 steroid shots over 4 years. My sciatic pain has been minimized. Do you know exactly what is now causing the back pain? The stenosis? Pinched nerve? Scar tissue?
Is it futile to see more doctors for their opinions?
Davo, I forgot to mention that I don't have any sciatic pain. The pain I have is my lower back is because I had the surgery. I was told up front that the surgery would only help with the herniated disc and everything that went along with it. The surgery would not help with lower back pain. I hope I made sense.
Spyz...I'm going to seriously think about seeing a pain management doctor. I miss walking my pooches. I have 2 pups and 2 kitties. They help somewhat with depression but only very temporarily.
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