Suboxone And Valium (Top voted first)

I have been on valium for approximately 12 years for severe anxiety and because of a severe back problems i was also put on percocet for years. Someone told me about suboxone. They said suboxone will help with the pain. So i went to a sub doc and told him i was on valium. He did not give me a U/A till months later. Doc said you are on a benzo. l said is that the valiums? He said yes. I said i told you i was on valium. He said you have to go off them. I was told if i go off my valiums i could have a seizure. I have been off the valium for a week. I am shaking and can't sleep. I feel sick. I was doing great with suboxone and valium. Now i am just sick. Please, someone help me.

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Joan, it's been several weeks since you posted this, so I don't know how you're doing. Valium w/d is the worst. I was on 30 mg/day for many years, and then the powers in Washington decided that opiates and benzo's don't get along and cause breathing problems, so my PM doctor was no longer able prescribe them by law. They gave me a 30 day supply to "wean off" of them. Valium builds up in your system, and since it's a CNS depressant, stays in your body for a long time. It's been 95 days since I had a Valium, and I'm feeling about as normal as I'm going to get. I hope you were able to get some relief w/out having to go CT, as I know that sucks. Been there. What I've found recently that helps anxiety is CBD oil, and it's legal to buy. I've never dealt with Subs, but I know some folks stay on it for long periods of time. Anyway, I hope you post something and that you're hanging in there.. You will feel better in time.

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You can't, his fault from the beginning. Yet, you are going to suffer.

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You cannot quit taking a benzodiazepine cold turkey..period. 2 drugs that can and have killed people due to withdrawal symptoms are benzodiazepines and alcohol. And for goodness sake GET off of the suboxone Asap! No it's not for pain. Methadone is for pain but don't go near that either. Sounds like you've been to a money hungry and uneducated doctor. Do your research!! I will hope that all works out for you.

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Hi Betty. Well it seems that due to all of these addicts who get their hands on pain meds that are Rx'd for legitimate pain & overdosing have convinced the CDC that even us pain patients who've been on pain meds legitimately for YEARS now need to be put in Suboxone. My doctor switched me to it last week. They've convinced the doctors that it can work for pain & sadly my doctor convinced me. It worked great on day 2 & 3. Now not so much. I'm beyond upset. And I'm also on Xanax which is besides the point here..just thought I'd mention it.

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I quit suboxzone cold turkey, beyond so sick I can't describe for 3 weeks, tough it out couple more weeks you'll be over the withdrawals

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Even herbs have draw backs. I would not do that unless I saw a naturalpathic doc who knows about herbal stiff

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Yes that is true about sub they aren't for pain!! They are a blocker actually

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The Dr. that this woman went to is a total *****!!!

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Bro that is illegal the dr can't just tell you to get off the benzo he is required by law to taper you off slowly since you have been on them so long, you can have a stroke and go into a seizure it is very dangerous to get off benzos cold turkey! And please if that's what you are doing stop and don't suffer tell your doctor, that it is the law for him to taper you off he can lose his license if he just takes you off of it. I HOPE THAT HELPS AND YOU FEEL BETTER SOON

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Switch from valium to clonazepam (klonopin). It is a benzo also but unless you take a lot it will not appear on lab work.

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Unfortunately I have yet to find a real benzodiazepine detox center....the ones I've encountered almost killed my son due to the seizures he began having. They didn't even know how to treat a person having a seizure (that one was in Michigan, charged $10,000--up front - & after my son had taken his 4th trip to ER in as many days, he called a cab and came to my hotel we found out that the whole place is run by the Church of Scientology!!! (like I stated earlier, educate yourself. If you were someone whom I was in the position to take care of I would try my damndest to:

1. Get you off of the suboxone first and foremost....this is a horrific drug and will cause detrimental effects to your body... I'd look for a huge legal suit against it in the future.

2. Get back on the valium - it's a good muscle relaxer and takes away the anxiety due to your pain. (klonopin does absolutely nothing to relieve muscles...stick to the valium) suboxone doctors see all benzos the same.

3. Try a different pain pill.....like maybe morphine based, and not one full of Tylenol. A 10mg oxycontin IR (immediate release) & take only when you are in unbearable pain.

4. Kick that quack of a doctor to the curb!

I really do wish you much luck in treating your pain. It's going to be an uphill battle at times..just never give up.

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For Globug.....the 72 hour medication is fentanyl. It is a patch you wear for 3 days although a lot of people find it works for only 48 hours. They have many forms of it like lozenges. They are trying to make it a cancer only drug because it is the stronest opiate you can get. So if you have stage 4 cancer it is probably a good choice for you and you should ask your doctor about it. Back to the forum I wouldn't go cold turkey off any drug. True opiate withdrawl will most likely not kill you but you will wish you were. But valium withdrawl can most certainly kill you so like I said before slowly coming down or get professional detox help. Your doctor is wrong but so many are. My psychiatrist actually tried to tell me there were no ill effects from stopping them. I had to ask him where he learned that and that he wasn't being honest with me. Thank God I didn't listen to him. They do let me be on a low dose benzo and my pain medication but I think If the dose was raised they wouldn't do it anymore. But my panic is so bad I can barely ever leave the house so going without soemthing is very hard for me. Most of the time though the pain keeps me in the house anyways. Hard to go messing around when you are in such pancreatic pain. Joan you have to do what if right for you but research research research. Doctors don't always know everything so we as patients need to find out information on our own sometimes.

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Valium can have a severe withdrawal and not to mention, although you did, that seizures are very common if you just stop using them. I don't understand why your Doctor didn't address this. I'd find another doctor that will work with you or if necessary detox you slowly from the valium. I don't understand his problem with that. Especially since you've been using them for over ten years. If you don't have any left you may have to go to emergency room and they'll hook you up with a few until you can find a doctor that knows more about it. You may want to try a physiatrist if all else fails. Best of luck to you.

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Hi...last week I posted about how the CDC is seemingly pushing doctors who have patients on OPIATE therapy for CHRONIC PAIN to try to get them on Suboxone. For one it IS being used for CHRONIC PAIN & I think depending upon what type of pain is how well it'll work. I was thinking that they really weren't working for me BUT now I think that I was just using TOO high of a dose because towards the end of my 1st Rx, I started cutting the strips smaller & that seemed to work better. This was JUST my experience with CHRONIC HEADACHES & how Suboxone worked for me. I'm gonna try another month of it & at least give it a little bit longer of a try before I rule it out & say "No it doesn't work". I'm REALLY hoping that it does because it showed more promise than any medicine I've taken a long time. Good Luck.

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Re: Makingmoresense (# 42)

Suboxone is an opiate promise. You could actually look the drug type up or drug class. Oh and I'm prescribed Suboxone for chronic pain. I started taking it to get off very strong opiates, but I have a degenerative bone disease and multiple artificial joints and cannot take opiates per this addiction problem so then I went through the program with flying colors and transitioned to taking it for my chronic pain. I still participate in the program but by choice. Thanks and good luck.

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Re: James (# 56)


Thank you James!! You clarified the Naloxone question. I too, am taking it for Chronic Pain & it's working better than I thought it would. Because alot of the Pain Community is so against it, I didn't know if it would work as well as the other opiate meds I've been on over the MANY years. Actually, for me, it's working even better! Thanks again~

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I know you're being supportive and helpful but that information won't help. Please seek emergency care asap. Severe benzo abstinence can be fatal and needs to be treated inpatient at a specialized detoxification unit where you can be approximately monitored and evaluated until the titration process is complete. Good luck.

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WHAT R U THINKING??? U came here looking for help. That was smart. But why didn't u think to look up how to come off of Valium? Go get ur Valium. Take a nibble. Drink warm water. When u start feeling weird again (hot flashes, shakes, dizzy, fast heart beat) take another nibble of the pill. That's how u come off any drug. Ur doctor didn't tell U how??? If he didn't he doesn't know what he's doing. U have to come off this drug slowly.

At this point since u don't want to be on them anymore, ur goal is no longer relief from muscle spasms. Now ur goal is to get off Valium without hurting too much or killing yourself by accident.
So this means, ur going to get about 3 nibbles maybe 2 off of each pill. People think the withdrawal starts right away. It does. But it gets worse and worse after the first 5 days. As more time goes by u have less and less in ur system. But u can't go cold turkey like that. So at this point ur a week off. Those little nibbles should give u decent relief for a few hours at a time. Not perfect. But it will make it easier. Do that for about another 5 days. But try and let more and more time go between nibbles and less each week.

I would find another dr. If this doctor didn't tell u how to get off this, he is a dangerous person.
While u r coming off this drug, u are going to have all sorts off muscle pain and spasms. Worse than why u went on them in the first place.

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You should NEVER go off of a benzo cold Turkey!!! Now kolonpin is used for seizures so i don't know how that would go but I do know xanax and valium can cause a person to have seizures going off of them without being weaned off. I would try & talk to your doctor again and express your concerns. I was on suboxone films for 3 years and went in prescribed kolonpin from another doctor and he jad no problem with it at all!! Actually my sub doctor offered to write them for me since I was getting all my other meds from him. I've been on them 13 yrs. I don't know how long you have but I would tell your doctor about how you are feeling to avoid anything happening to u due to going off of them. Hope things work out for you. Good luck!!!

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Hello Joan hope things are going better . and be careful which advice you follows suboxone is an opiat so it does have the ability to help with pain. Its been prescribed for pain for years and still is , it has just recently been approved for addiction recovery as in the last ten years . any benzo, ( Valium , xanax, clonipin, ativan ext) taken with any opiate ( lortab percocet, oxy op a na dulaudid morphine suboxone methadone) causes respiratory depression therefore its dangerous, and should only be prescribed in small doses together and actively monitored. A lot of people have bad things to say about it and most are not educated on the subject but use personal opinion as information. The blocker part Is the na lo one and unless injected its bioavailability is minute (2%) the buphenorphen will help with pain and opiate dependence some chronic pain sufferers Ben if it more from it than from a pain pill, I do suggest though that you do research yourself from a factual legitimate registered site with true information and not opinion . I take suboxone for chronic pain and opiate dependence it works fine for me nothing totally take all pain away , nothing, pain management is just that , making it manageable not making it non-existant that is impossible in most cases . on the subject of taking it with your Valium thats a very touchy situation in some instances its not allowed by sea regulations I would weigh the fist reward points for each if you unfortunately have to choose , I would have a serious conversation with your prescribing doctors and ask advice and let them both know your preference the two can work together to alleviate the problem and almost certainly come to a solution for you , I wish you the best of luck and know you done the right thing by telling your doctor all your prescribed meds appears the he possibly didn't document it or didn't listen to you , that happens frequently in a high patient output clinic then they come at you always cover your self. Good luck

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