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I started Suboxone four days ago. I am taking a whole 8 mg Suboxone twice a day. I also take 45 mg of Adderall a day for ADD and I need the Adderall because I am a college student. Is it harmful to take them together? The Suboxone has done excellent for me, and has kept the Oxycontin out of my mind. I got addicted to tabs when I was playing college baseball in order to play through two broken fingers and bum shoulder. So instead of doing a gut check time dealing with the pain through an ice bucket or taking some time off to heal up, because I was just a freshman and I was battling it out for starting spot with a all-conference senior. I became immune to the tabs, so a player introduced me to Oxycontin. I was taking 80 mg a day. This continued into the fall season of my sophomore year until I tore the ligaments of my throwing hand and had to have surgery. It was a career ending injury and rehab was nine months, during which I received Perocets. I began to stack them with Oxycontin and Adderall. This addiction almost destroyed my life.It almost cost me everything and put my parents through hell, not only physically but also financially cause I used the money they sent me for living expenses to support my habit. They continued to be my rock and never gave up on me. The Suboxone made me feel like life did before Oxy. I am now a junior and with the help of the Good Lord I am getting my life back. I would like to know if the 45 mg of Adderall is safe with the Suboxone? I am having to buy the Suboxone, is there a clinic I can go to that is not rehab to get prescribed or a doctor? What are my options? I went dry for a week but quickly relapsed,but this time I don't care how hard it is. So please any help with my options would be appreciated.

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I also became addicted to oxycontin when i was seventeen, I used to take 30mg of adderall a day my freshman year but it made me so socially anxious so i went off that and onto paxil, which i believe is a placebo. In HS i hated smoking pot and wasn't a big drinker so junior year i took a pill that made me feel on top of the world...oxys, and xanax. So now ive been off and on suboxone for like four years now and something is still missing i still was getting depressed and wanted to use xanax. Then my buddy offers me an adderall and i said why not? So i took 8mg of suboxone that day and 30mg of adderall and im telling you i felt great. I am much more talkative and outgoing and more aware of things, and the best part is i am going with more girls then before. I do believe that way too many people are on medications but if your like me and you have hard core anxiety problems and opiate addictions and have hard times just making it through the day then i suggest talking to a certified psychiatrist. Its the best thing to do. But just to let you know suboxone, in my opinion, is just as hard as getting off of oxycontin because it is in a class of opiates. But if you feel like you cant get off opiates yourself just go to suboxone.com and find a doctor. I hope some people find this comment useful

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All of these comment are great. I used Suboxone for a little over two years under supervision of a certified doctor and a private therapist. Also it's recommended to attend group sessions. I did all of these and slowly tapered off of 16 mg/day down to 0. It was easy and painless. I now have my life back and am so thankful to my family for helping me through my 15 year addiction to Heroin and Crack.

Also a bit on Adderall. I too took 30mg per day with my Suboxone to "get more work done" and realized that it was turning into yet another addiction. I started getting lower doses and quit in one week. I realized that I would be addicted to it and not be able to get out of bed in the morning without it! So please get out of that situation while you still can.

Doctor locator links:
https://www.treatmentmatch.org/index.cfm
http://www.pressingtheissue.com/2010/11/find-suboxone-doctors-near-you

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You really need to be working with a doctor while on these drugs. In almost every community there is at least one physician certified to prescribe Suboxone. Here's a link to a search function for this:
http:/­/­www.suboxone.com/­patients/­here_to_help/­find_a_doctor.aspx

As far a getting off Adderall, it can be done but should be done very slowly. There's a Yahoo Group that helps people do this with little to no disruption to their lives. It's called Withdrawal_and_Recovery.

Adderall addiction is a real and dangerous. This is a vastly overused drug that is rarely truly needed. Millions of people made it through college without it or another psych drugs. We live in a time now where the pharmaceutical industry has convinced everyone that any struggle we have is a mental illness and needs to be treated. The longer you take this drug the more difficult it becomes to get off it.

A study, published in June 2009 in the American Journal of Psychiatry, confirms that stimulants used to treat children for so-called ADHD can cause sudden cardiac arrest and death. As an athlete you are even more vulnerable to this. There is also evidence from studies of stimulant addicts and case reports that stimulant drugs can cause heart disease, including inflammation and scarring. When drugs like Ritalin and Adderall are prescribed in routine pediatric doses, they commonly cause hypertension, which can lead to an enlarged heart. Suboxone also increases blood pressure so your risk is even higher.

It's really important for you to have some medical oversight. Good luck. Remember to check out the Yahoo Group.

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All of the posts have been helpful. And similar stories.
Something to note: If you have been on any strong opiates for years or longer, IF you are able to get off by using sub., you can expect to have attention problems, slowness, etc. Because opiates over time mess with your neurotransmitters in your brain. Take a 'Brain quicz' google it. See which chemical in your brain (out of 4) you are most deficient in. Then take supplements.
I was on Fentanyl for 5 years. A lot of it. I had had 6 shoulder reconstructions which kept failing and not fixing my chronic pain, thus the patch usage for the pain. Now, they found nerve tumors and repaired them, my pain is mostly gone. Now, I have to deal with a slow brain. My thoughts are excessive, I over analyze everything, thoughts all seem new, experiences new. I still take suboxone, but only 1 8mg a day. I WAS taking 4 x 8mg strips A DAY!, but have been able to decrease to 1 a day w/ Np. However, I cant get anything done. Lost my job, bc I cant complete a task. I start one, get side tracked, cant finish. Im a mental mess and its b/c of the opioids over long 5 year period. I just got prescribed Adderrall to help me focus. Something's got to help b/c I need to be productive in my career.
Seek faith for help. Actually try seeking God, what do you have to lose? He helped me.

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Your story seems very similar to mine. I have been going to the same psychatrist for almost 10 years, where I was prescribed adderall and xanax. However, for the last 3 or 4 years I had been buying roxys and doing those as well. At first just at night, then all day, until I almost lost everything. I lost my girlfriend of 8 years, spent every penny to my name, have debt now that I am never going to get out of, and I almost lost my job. (I'm a teacher) Luckily, I still have it and I am doing well with suboxone. I went to a couple of re-hab places, but they all wanted to take me off everything. They told me that if I told my psych. that he would drop me. So, I continued to use and see my psych every month. Until, I realized there was nothing else to lose, and I just needed to be honest with him. Man, I wish I would have done it years ago. He gave me suboxone and continued all my other medications. Sometimes, honesty is the best policy for sure.

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I'm from Livingston, Louisiana. And I just found a dr about an hour and a half away from me in New Orleans. And I only paid 200$ for my first visit and I got 90 subs. The dr literally asked me what I needed and how many would I be ok with. I told him I was taking 7-13 30mg roxicodone a day. That's almost 400$ a day addiction. So he. Wrote me a script of 90 subs. And my next visits will only cost 125$. That's cheap. The cheapest suboxone dr's around the Baton Rouge area are like $450-575 for first visit. So if you live in Louisiana around the Baton Rouge area then I'll give you the number to call and you don't need a appointment. You can just walk in. It's a walk in clinic. If anyone lives around Louisiana or in Louisiana I'll give you the number. It's a great place. In and out in 20 minutes. With a script of 90 subs.

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Pressingtheissue- I think that is awesome that you completed sub treatment successfully and had no problems getting off the medication. I just started about 5 weeks ago. I would love to hear more about your story and your successful suboxone taper. Do you have it posted on any suboxone forums? Would you mind emailing me and letting me know? If not..... No worries.. Just nervous since I'm new on subs.

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I was on Suboxone for about 6 months or so. My Sub Doc stitched me over the 8mg Subutex when I told her I was diagnosed with Adult ADD and pas put on Adderall 20mg IR 2x/day. My sub doc said there is just something she doesn't like about her patients being on an amphetamine and taking a drug (whether active or not) with naloxone in it. Bad side effects. That's fine with me Subutex is 2X as good. :)

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Oh my god that is crazy I go through the same thing everyday and I was on opiates for five years as well.my mind races so much some times I'll sit and pull out my hair for extended amounts of time with my mind racing so much I can't concentrate on anything or get anything done.it feels like I'm going crazy I try to take adderall along with a small amount of subs to get enough energy to do something but after like two days they completely stop working.did your mental problems ever get better.what did you do to cope.i hAve no idea what to do

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I wouldn't get off the subs while u have all that school work going on unless u can afford to be sick a few days. U could always try skipping every other day for a week then skip every 2 days etc till u don't need the subs at all. That's what I did. My doc wouldn't prescribe me adderall for my adhd while I was on subs. Now I lost my insurance due to a layoff at work and can't go to the doc to get a new script. Sucks having to be on meds cuz ur more out of tune when u don't have them then what u would be if u never even started using them from the get go ! Do u live in pa?

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I have been addicted to pain pills (Roxy Percocet, Tabs, Methadone, my new fav Opana and MANY more) for 11 years.
I weigh 110lbs and I'm 5'3". I can take up to 15•10mg Tabs, 2•8mg Subs,10mg Percs and some others OR 8-10•30mg Roxys, 10mg (the ones that do NOT have gel) Opana, 10mg Dones and a few others.
I NEVER have & NEVER will stick a needle in my arm, ass, leg and some other odd & NASTY other places I've heard they was being stuck now. I do have that much willpower and much more!
ANYWAY....I get on an Adderall binge, then I will get on a Sub binge, then swap again depending on my mood.
I do not do ALL of these in 1 day, I'm dumb for using, but not THAT dumb. I guess I just decide what my drug for the day is going to be. It's pretty sad & pathetic, but I'm about to get back on track. :-)

**** FINALLY TO THE ANSWER!!***
The point was, I have a VERY strong stomach. Well yesterday I decided to take an 8mg strip & a 30mg Adderall, just ONE of each. Why....? I guess I was feeling "spunky". Lol. I had taken the strip around 10am or 11am then around 3pm-4pm, I took an Adderall.....OH MY! I was fine for the first hour or so and then all of the sudden, BAM, I knew it was about to vomit. I had to run STRAIGHT to the bathroom and vomited. It was PURE orange. I can't b**** though, I done it to myself! I do NOT have a weak stomach after 11 years of using daily. But for MYSELF, everyone is different, I will NEVER mix the 2 again. HELL NO!
•Just to go ahead and put it out there... I do NOT need a hypocrite to comment about how "rehab is needed, blah blah blah". You wouldn't have read any of theses posts if YOU wasn't doing anything. Duces!

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Nah, you looked for drugs in college because your and addict, hence the reason you still take them now and wrote excuses for "needing" to still take them. The combo of aderall and sub will cost you some serious money and only give you two more addictions.

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U don't know what your talking about.i need them for life,keep up with appointments,helps my impulsive behavior,helps social situations,I can read without stopping.helps me finish things I have schedule that I follow,also helped treatment resistant depression,and um on vyvanse which only 50mg,and my mom keeps them brings me my dose every morning.vyvanse and suboxone,so I can't abuse,but you know it all...psychiatrist agrees with what I'm on.and I was in pain,but I was diagnosed at 6 ADHD,I'm 37,u don't have a clue.also in therapy.you need more research adults benefit from it in life .ignorance,just shows you haven't a clue

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I can't be more happy to hear that you completed a suboxone program without any problems! I wish I had the same luck. I started a suboxone program for the 1st time a little over 2 years ago after a raging addiction to opiates that I acquired after being prescribed Lortab for herniated discs. I started off taking my meds as prescribed, but as time went on they lost their affect & like many others, one thing led to another & before I knew it I was buying any opiate off the street that I could get my hands on- my life was a living hell.

The suboxone program I entered was an 8-month program that required weekly group therapy & monthly individual therapy in addition to suboxone. I was started off on 2, 8mg strips per day and I was so ready for it! I wanted my life back, and nothing or no one was going to stand in my way! Per the program, I was tapered off of suboxone by being cut back a quarter of a strip per month until I was completely off. I did everything EXACTLY how I was supposed to & had no problems tapering down. By the time I had gotten down to taking a quarter of a strip per day, I was ready to be off of everything & go back to living a normal & happy life. Unfortunately, it didn't happen that way...

Four days after stopping the suboxone, I went into terrible withdraw- worse than any I'd experienced with tab's, perc's or oxy's. You know, cold sweats, tremors, body aches, but this time I had a new withdraw symptom that I hadn't experienced before suboxone. I had the most awful feeling throughout my legs that radiated to my stomach. The best way to describe this feeling was like my skin was crawling- HORRIBLE! I called the clinic where I had my suboxone treatment & told them what was going on & in a nutshell, I was told that all of these physical withdraw symptons were in my head because the program is set up in such a way that withdraw is impossible. That is total bulls***. Since then, I've talked to MANY people that have experienced terrible withdraw after stopping suboxone & most would agree it is much worse than coming off of oxy's or the like. I refused to go back to pills, so I started buying subs off the street. After about 6 mos of going broke trying to combat withdraw, I asked if I could come back to the program to give it a second shot, only this time I didn't take more anymore than 1, 8mg strip per day to start. I thought that maybe taking less from the start would make coming off easier.....WRONG! I felt like I was on this neverending vicious cycle with no hope in sight.

After 8 months of buying subs off the street, I found a doctor that prescribed them and there was no time limit to be on them. This doctor believes, like many others, that once you start suboxone it's pretty much a life-long maintenance drug. It didn't take me 8 months to gain my out of control addiction and according to her, it won't take 8 months to gain control over my addiction. I am now prescribed 2, 8mg subutex per day. Subutex in suboxone in it's purest form and in my opinion, a hell of a lot better. It's also 1/3 of the price of the strips! I feel like my life is back together again. I look at my daily sub dose just like any other maintenance drug such as meds for something like high blood pressure or diabetes.

One last thing, I have also been diagnosed with sleep apnea and my CPAP alone doesn't help me stay awake during the day. I was still almost falling asleep behind the wheel and feeling tortured trying to stay awake. My sleep doctor prescribed Adderall to try and see if it helps to keep me awake. It definitely does. I take 30mg of Adderall within 3-4 hours of taking the subs and my doctor assured me that the two meds can absolutely be taken together, but is always best to put a few hours in between the two. I've been taking them for about a week and have experienced what seems like very mild withdraw when I take the Adderall after the subs. I'm a total newbie when it comes to taking Adderall, so I'm not sure if feeling like that is a side effect, or if it is in fact some withdraw. Anyone ever experienced anything like that when taking both Adderall & Subutex in the same day?

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Everything but the first bit is true. Amphetamine DOESN'T break down any opioid--dumbest thing I've ever heard. There is absolutely NO combined mechanism of metabolism between Amphetamine and any opioid. Perhaps you're thinking that amphetamine's stimulating properties negate the narcotic effects of Subs and therefore must break it down? Well that's incorrect. It simply is stimulating. You'll find that the order in which you take certain meds DOES change the feeling. Ex: Benzos before opioids enhance each other while taking a Benzo after an opioid totally kills the opioid euphoria. And all that has to do with the GABA system in the midbrain. There are 2 GABA pathways...1 is part of the internal GP and 1 is part of the external GP. When you increase GABA in the external GP, you're actually creating an ultimately stimulatory effect on the dopamine system through D1 receptor activation. If BZDs were taken second, increased GABA would dimish the effects on the thalamus and motor pathway by decreasing dopamine.

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Hello to all posters. I stumbled upon this board,looking for some answers myself, but will gladly share any info or knowledge I have on these two drugs. First off I'd like to say that I'm a recovering opiate addict(percs were my drug of choice, and lots of them at that).I would also like to add that I've only been clean for less than a week, so you may want to take my advice with a grain of salt.lol....Anyway I started a Suboxone program this past week and I can honestly say my life has been dramatically changed already in more ways than I could have possibly dreamed. My sub doctor prescribed me 8mg. Once a day(I'm proud to say,I've only been taking 4mg. A day though, BC I'd like to be off this Med in 6mo. Or less) My only regret is that I didn't get help sooner. I truly feel like my old self again.I wake up in the morning with a smile on my face and it feels AMAZING! God has blessed me in so many ways already. With that being said I've been prescribed adderall for my ADD by my family doctor for the past year.(10 mg. 3x daily) When I went to the sub clinic,my doctor there told me it was absolutely fine to take these two medications together. Although I don't feel like I'm addicted to the adderall in any way,I wanted to stop taking it for the first week or so on subs.I felt absolutely fine and am not even sure if I want to continue taking the adderall. I almost feel like all the problems I previously had focusing may have been due to all the opiates I was putting into my system. I start back to work in a few days and I wanted to try taking the adderall while on Suboxone before I went back,just to make sure I wasn't going to have any weird side affects.I was just fine. Not really any better or worse. Hope this helps someone. God bless,and Merry Christmas!

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IM also ADD and I have been on suboxin for just over a year. I take 16 mil a day and im on 72 mg of Concerta. WHICH is similar to Adderall .People who ARENT ADD/ADHD..will get that "speedy" feeling and yes addicts will abuse it. I never felt that way on ridilin or adderall and now im on concerta. Being im an addict when I got on Suboxon i inform my Doc that my psychiatrist has me on stimulant due to my illness and she explained to me that people who are ADD or ADHD our brain does not respond to it the way others do. I dont get that speedy talk a mile a min that addicts get on those it quite the opposite it calms my brain down a few notches and I can actually focus on things instead of having 1500 thoughts rushing through my brain and my life is sooo better organize than when im not on my meds...So with that said I never had any problems with taking both. The only side effect I have since taking both is severe constipation but im not sure if its a combo doing that or the suboxin. HAS anyone on suboxin have problems with that?
I would however inform your doctor that you are on suboxin with Aderall. I dont know what laws are in the usa but here in Canada I get u.a's every week and if my doc wasent aware I was on stimulants for ADD I would pee dirty for having stimulants in my excretion and would lose my weekly carries of suboxin. It took me three months of going everyday before I was allowed to get carries to bring home in a lockbox and I only go once a week to pee and pick up my next week of suboxin. Its definitely not a drug to mess around with. I even have a med alert bracelet saying im on suboxin that way if I get in accideny or where I cant talk they will know not to pump me full pain meds which can overdose us by getting our blood to become toxic due to overload of opiates which can cause seizures among other risks. I almost lost a friend due to the fact she never told ER docs that she was on high dose of 24 mg of suboxon..so always keep your med record up to date it could one day save your life

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Jenny, it seems as though you are calling people who might share that Rehab may be needed or helpful are Hypocrites I did not need rehab either and am clean many years I'm on this sight to find answers for a friend who has opiate and amphetamine addictions and I only had opiate addictions To call anyone a hypocrite for sharing what could be lifesaving advice is extremely judgemental and not helpful to anyone .Also I never used a needle but to exalt and brag about all the supposed willpower you have by looking down your nose at those and using words like Nasty and U Never are the most hypocritical judgemental self righteous types of words I have read on all these posts I am not judging you as a person I'm saying those words were arrogant critical judgemental in and of themselves. None of us are in any special position to judge others addictions as nastier or try to act like we are any better by saying Well Id NEVER that's not helpful at all Let's keep in mind people are seeking helpful advice not opinions or bragimonys because it wouldn't be right to say your addictions and combinations are nauseating and mine are all right ain't cool that's just not gonna help or encourage anyone I hope by now you have figured that out and hopefully are on your own healing path to recovery Peace Out

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What is the number and do they treat for anxiety and adhd?

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Xannex and suboxen together can kill you!!! The clinic I went to for suboxen treatment gave me a option. Take sub or the xannex but I was not to take them both at the same time. I can't remember exactly why but something about benzo with sub can really be life threatening. Someone even told me I could go to sleep and not wake up. Please consult a suboxen clinic for additional information. Soon as I seen that I really got worried for you!!! Speaking from experience....

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