New Subutex Laws (Page 13) (Top voted first)

I went to see my doctor this week and he told me that the FDA and the DEA had passed a new law for prescribing Subutex. As of July 1st 2015 Subutex can only be given to pregnant woman or to someone with documentation saying they can't take Suboxone. If you don't have that you will be put on Suboxone.

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I so agree with you on this! Everyone is different, we all have different issues, reasons for taking... and before we were fortunate enough to get this medication, we all had are different struggles.
So, for those people who haven't been where we have been(I say this because we ARE ALL different, and taking for different reasons) don't judge use, assume or think you know what we've been thru. No matter what our situations may be, we have a heart and feelings. As far as I go, I try to only speak from my experience only. I don't know everyone else's situation.

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Michael, from what I've read, the mixture with naloxone should work the same way as Subutex. On the other hand, there may be different effects in individual cases. If you have a good relationship with your doctor, he may be able to do something for you. If you're worried about the naloxone interfering with anesthesia or medically necessary pain medication, Subutex itself is only a partial opioid agonist. The latest research shows that it has a stronger affinity for opioid receptors than full opioid agonists. In other words, if you need an opioid for anesthesia or surgical pain, it will take larger doses of opioids to displace the Subutex from the receptor sites,. This must be done under careful medical supervision, to prevent an overdose or a hypertensive crises. In my humble opinion, you are better off slowly weaning yourself off the Subutex completely. If you can't, I would suggest seeing a good clinical psychologist to get to the root of why you have a strong desire for opioids. For example, you may have clinical depression. You may have suffered a childhood trauma that is buried in your unconscious. You may not have developed the coping skills to deal with the misery of life's catastrophic events that eventually affects everyone, if they live long enough. Your desire for opioids is in no way a personal weakness or character flaw. Ignore the supercilious comments from those who are always judging others. It is their way of making themselves feel better by avoiding their own flaws. It would be a better world if more people followed the rule: 'He that is without sin, let him caste the first stone.'

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GAGELLE: "Your desire for opioids is in no way a personal weakness or character flaw. Ignore the supercilious comments from those who are always judging others. It is their way of making themselves feel better by avoiding their own flaws. It would be a better world if more people followed the rule: 'He that is without sin, let him caste the first stone".

Thank you. There was actually a guy on one of these named "NO MORE NARCS" and he is judging people left and right and yet is actually AN ADDICT HIMSELF! But now that he's clean, he gets to sit up on the mountaintop and judge everyone. Unreal. I mean, I expect it from some people who have never had to deal with addiction. But this guy? UGH. Anyway, thanks for saying that.

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I know how you feel. I can't take Suboxone because I have a reaction to the naloxone so my Dr changed it to Subutex and I've done so much better. Now they've changed again and I've been put back on Suboxone, and going through the reaction but can't get the ER to listen. They treated me for a allergic reaction but didn't say to what. So now I have to go back to the ER again.

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Dave, your old doctor should have never promised you or any patient that a new doctor would continue to treat patients the same way he had. One doctor cannot tell another doctor what to prescribe to a patient. Actually, your diabetes doctor should not have prescribed you the Subutex, unless he was licensed to prescribe it.

It is your responsibility to find another doctor before you run out of your medications. You may need to see a psychistrist for your anti anxiety medications and a different doctor to treat your addiction. You need to find a new doctor ASAP. There is nothing a lawyer can do.

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But Michael should know that since he's an Lpn..your about as educated as a rock. You don't understand addiction or m.a.t. so please do us all a favor and keep your ridiculous p opinions and mouth shut. Your condescension and insolence are why addicts have a bad name because you are quick to chime in on a subject that you don't have the knowledge or common sense to even contribute in any way. All you have done is embarrass yourself and your so called education. Ask for your money back because you are way in over your head...

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Well the Clinic has my records that came from my Dr that quit and the Nurse called me before my appt and told me that this other Dr that works at the same clinic was looking over my records that came from my Dr that quit and he wanted me to switch from subutex to Suboxon and stop my clonipins and lyrica and he has the authority to write out scripts for Subutex and the rest of my meds, because he was the one who signed my script for my last supply of my meds. But one thing the clinic did not do was to taper me off of the subutex they left me hanging with taking it 3 x day 8 mg I went to my family Dr and she thinks what they done to me was unethical and not tapering me down was cruel knowing that it would be hard to find another Dr that can prescribe subutex and Suboxon and only giving me a 1 month supply of my meds. But my family Dr referred me to a Dr that can prescribe subutex it's a psychiatrist and it's a first come first serve thing, but what that clinic done to me was very wrong I wonder how many others they done this too. Really that place was for more Psychiatric then a Subutex Clinic, when I had an appt down there each month to get my meds my mother wanted to get out of the house so I took her with me, it's a 21/2 hour drive down there but when he asked me to come to his office she timed it every time and I was only in there between 6 and 8 min and I had to pay cash $175 every month so figure that out per day with him seeing his patients for a very short time. My insurance said that they would pay for it but he was a Cash Dr only plus I had to spend 45 min with this girl just talking to me about different things not about my addiction and I had to pay cash to her and it was $75 and I had a couple strokes in 07 so I am on disability and I only get $1385 a month and I cannot get food stamps and with my stroke it only affected my left eye I lost all of the vision in it. But I want to thank you for responding to my letter I did find a lawyer and it's for malpractice and they are pretty sure that I can sue the clinic and get money out of them but that is not what I want I want to be able to come back there and have them prescribe me the same meds that I was on, but anyways thanks for replying to me I didn't think no one would

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Sorry guys my 16 year old thought it would be funny to reply in my name. I have no idea why he said I wasn't a LPN. That wasn't funny at all just made me loo bad.

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Michael,

Hahaha you were tooled!!! That's what happens when you base your life on a lie. No person's value is based on the initials posted at the end of their name. A good lesson to all, children can expose those who claim to be something they ARE NOT so just be real AND PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE.

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If all your doing is switching from SUBUTEX to Suboxone, your not going to have any withdrawals! The withdraws will come from not taking Klonopins maybe..Not sure as I don't take them. Just an assumption on my part.

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Dave, you aren't going to be able to sue because you don't have a case. Since you have Medicare, you need to look for a doctor in your area that takes Medicare and is licensed to write your meds for addiction.

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CAPTAIN: Ah yes, I see you've discovered "Jim". Makes me wonder what is so LACKING in Jim's life, that THIS is what he does with his time. It's like the people who go on Youtube to watch videos of bands they don't like, just so they can TELL US how they don't like them. Like, really? Jim is a walking advertisement for birth control, as in "use a condom kids, don't give birth to a 'Jim'." Purposely seeking out a thread about addiction, just so he can talk smack about addicts? I mean, we are addicts, but we can get clean, whereas Jim will ALWAYS be a d.bag. Poor Jim.

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Khalil I am proud of how far you have hav come. It's hard to do. I wish you the best of luck coming off of the subutex. I am ready to come off of it to but like you I am scared of what will come after stopping them. I herd it's not fun at all. I I wish the best for you and thank you and all the others that has taken my post seriously. When I started this I never would've thought that two years later people would still be replying to it. Good luck.

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I hate auto correct post #270 was for Kkh. That is what the first word in my last reply should have said.

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I'm sorry kkh I ment post 271. Post 270 was yours lol.

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MICHAEL: No problem. It's too bad when you click REPLY, it doesn't actually address that person. I would think that would be an easy fix!

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Having spend time working at a physical rehab hospital, most of the psych crowd in our place, went into it because THEY WERE BROKEN and were trying to fix themselves. Mostly they projected their baggage & prejudice onto the patients & anyone silly enough to share with them. When your body has been broken in an accident, the pain is NOT always in your head AND not all surgeries make you better!!! We usually got the failed experiments of docs. As they say "doctors are famous for burying their mistakes"...literally.

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Michael, yes..Auto correct has actually got me in unintended trouble..Lol was reading one post, actually thought it was for me by what I read. My misunderstanding..Lol
Take care

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I thought so, but if I was wrong, didn't want to sound silly..Lol Anyway, have a great rest of the week, and weekend ahead! :)

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He straight lied to who? I know you're not talking to me. I have been on subutex for 3 years now and know dozens of people at my doctors office and other doctor offices that got swapped when that law went into place.

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