How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 2) (Top voted first)

Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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A little back story, I was on subs for five years , I took seven months to taper from 12 mg to .75. December 13, 2013 was my last dose, all n all it wasn't bad. The question today though is I'm 25 and have had no history of acne, now I can't get rid of it. Not to the point of being severe but it's annoying, also still abnormal armpit perspiration, also no history of that. I was just wondering if anyone had any advice on this, is it a hormone imbalance since getting off suboxone, any help or comments would be greatly appreciated. Also to anyone thinking about quitting, do it now, it only gets harder. A better version of ourselves awaits on the other side

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Robyn Q-- I am totally down for taking legal action against the suboxone company!!! My fiancé and I have talk about this multiply times, but don't know how and if it could be done. Even if it could, why hasn't people tried to sue Methadone companies?? Suboxone has affected every area in my life and my body. I want to get off this drug. But I'm scared. I live in Wisconsin (Milwaukee) so if anybody else is serious about this, lets get together.
Crystal

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I agree with you 100%. I don't know if I would have been so disrespectful but, some people need to hear it that way. If your gonna sue suboxone then ya might as well sue Percocet, Vicodin, etc...... It's our responsibility to research what were putting into our body. Doctors aren't Gods. Most of them just want their paycheck and once suboxone came out, these a**holes went nuts writing scripts like its no ones Buiness. It's either continue using all the other drugs or let the suboxone take over your body???? If you want to quit, then do it. Yes it's gonna be the hardest thing you'll probably ever do in your life but, if you choose life then do just that. Today is day 115 for me and it was not easy. I went thru hell. Physically, I'm still not 100%. But mentally I am. I know that I had gotten to a point where I abuse the suboxone and that made it harder to quit. I did it cold turkey. I just jumped. Some say that was crazy but, I had to. After being clean about 2 weeks, I went thru withdrawl all over again because it its half life. Up to being clean about 75 days, I would still get chills, feeling the need to stretch, still not sleeping, sneezing and going to the bathroom ( I thought would never be normal again). But now, I sleep too much, no sneezing or any of the other symptoms. Oh and depression. I cried about everything that was wrong in my life. I felt hopeless and I didn't have any motivation. I needed to go thru that for personal reasons. If I hadn't suffered coming off suboxone, I probably would have went back on them. Now, I don't think about them or the pills. I do get aches in my back but, I'd rather go get a massage or just lay down. I'm afraid to even take a Tylenol. Look, long story short, if you want off, then get off. You don't have to do it the way I did. Do what makes you comfortable. You appreciate life once you do it. And you will get thru it.

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Doctors in the USA also have to have special training and a certificate allowing them to prescribe Suboxone. When it first came out as treatment for addiction, and I believe it's still the case, they have a limited amount of patients they can give it to at any given time. These doctors are supposed to be addiction specialists. I have never heard of a doc giving this for depression! That pisses me off, and I do believe you would have a case against the doctor, not the drug company! I don't believe it has been cleared by the FDA for the treatment of depression. There are so many safe, non-addictive options for depression, it's irresponsible to give something this addictive when there are non-addictive options! That doctor should be reported at the very least. Many years ago, before we had antidepressants, they did give opiates for depression. But those days are long gone.

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No worries, I just tapered off sub with success. Let me know your dose and I will set you up on a pain free taper schedule. Read my blogs starting 10 days ago. I will check in tonight. Do not believe the hype, you can get off suboxone and live drug free.

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There is a old saying why jump out the window when you can take the steps. Coming of anything is not easy, but it can be done if you don't rush it. I am on suboxone , however I found the answer, the best thing to do is bring your blood level down slowly. I've taken my suboxone and cut it up into small pieces , I told my doctor and now I know why he didn't want me to do it. You can come off when you do it that why, don't take big doses, only take enough so you won't get sick. You my get a little sick at first ,but take small bits and it will go away. Keep doing it this way and in time slowly decrease your pieces. I was taking 8mg a day ,now Im down to half 4mg. When you take small pieces for a long time and then take a big piece you will be high as hell because you have lowered you blood level. In time you can decrease the pieces bit by bit and you can come off. At night get a sleep aid . Don't jump out the window take the stairs come down step by step and it will work.

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I went online and you put how much your on and it tells you how to taper off. If its a higher dose it will take more time. Right away it cuts your dose in half. Suboxone used to run my life but not anymore. I go down to 1mg tomorrow and I feel ok. I'll let you know in a week when I'm taking less.

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unfortunately this medication Tramadol is also not to be used in efforts to wean addict patients from opiate drugs, nor to be used to manage long-term opiate addiction.This "dream or wonder drug" will stay just that, as you won't have any way of getting it prescribed legally :(
Any realistic suggestions!?

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ok i have read your post have been on subs for 6 months want off asap hate them I have got down to amox 1.5mg per day what now please I would like to get with my life, and not feeling as if I am losing my mind on a daily basis

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Subsuckspotential2bgr8 I should have said the 2 post was from me steffie and again I thank you for your time and yes I would be very greatful for your input and advice on getting off subs I am now down to 1.5 - 1.25 per day now started this stuff on a very bad note, not done the right way at all for 2 weeks i honestly thought i was going to die i had been on only and i swear on 4 10mg of norco for about 1 yr due to a pain issue my father died after i was taking care of him due to cancer, i had not taken one single pain pill in over 6 days i had a nervious breakdown from my fathers death and alot of other pressures that was on me at the time, went to the hospital and some dr decides i must be a addict i was placed in the drug ward a given 16mg. thats right I said 16mg. of suboxone became so ill the hospital kept giving me this amount for 3 days and told my family i had to stay on that dose or i could die this went on for 3 more days back to hospital was sent home stating they dont monitor subs that i would just have to wait 2 weeks for my dr appointment finally got help from the sub hot line they said to drop it to 4mg i was completely overdosing ya think i could not walk, think, eat or hardly speak, this has been a nightmare from hell i just want it to end. I have never hurt anyone in my 52 yrs of life but want so badly to sue this hospital i wounder how many other peoples lives have been ruined please do not get me wrong it is probably a great drug for those who need it and i give the all the credit in the world for waiting to clean up the life they were living but could someone please tell me how these dr just want to treat everyone the same, heck they did not even come into my room after giving the meds for hours later and that was to shoot me full of meds to help the vomiting but it never worked so maybe now you can see why i want off thank you

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I love to hear about how getting off of suboxone isn't that bad if you listen to your doctor.... especially from those that have never tried it... You have no idea what you are talking about and only do damage by having people that trully do go through the pain feel they are weak for it being so hard.... I guarantee it's one of the hardest and longest withdrawls processes but to all of those out there it is possible and life can get back to normal.

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Im pretty much where your at steffie, although I snort subs and it effects you a lil differently then under the tongue, basically since your nasal passages are thinner than your gutz so it gets in your blood faster and stays longer for some reason... so like a 2 millis is like 4 or even 8 in the long run...ive been on these dreadful things for 3 yrs now, mainly to get off 80s and brown and stay off, on my own accord(non doc prescribed)had i known what I was getting myself into at the time I woulda have just went through ox wd's! so tappering for me is difficult since I dont really have an accurate dosage, it changes day to day but never more than 2 millis. but I have to do it as i will be moving soon and wont have a connect any longer...which im completely fine with I mean I trully want to get off em, and ive suffered numerous times without it so I deffo know the pain of wds all to well and heres my advice for those pesky wds...if you have access to colonodine and benzos(klonopins) when your off sub completely it would be a good idea...the colonodine will help with the general flu like wd's(hot...cold creepy crawlies up and down your body), restless legs that sort of sick) and the k-pins will help with anxiety,depression and sleep as the mental can be pretty awful especially if your already prone to depression like myself...also immodium and benedryl will also be helpful allies in the battle...antihistamines. for the sneezing and watery eyes and immodium for the bubblegutz...everybody has a certain wd symptom that they hate more than the rest for me its not sleeping from restless legs..so I find a quick workout and stretching than a nice warm shower afterwards does wonders...now for people that dont have access to these drugs I would just say good luck and stick it out...but I found a workaround on a website pillgoldusa...google it! and if you got the money to spend look up the blood pressure meds, aldactone=colonodine and buspar=klonopins there generic and dont get you high like k-pinz and xanax.. but you can get adicted to buspar especially if you snort it(dont snort it) some people its a wonder drug some people just dont get what the drugs purpose is as it has to build up for a couple days for it to work properly...but all you really need it for is the month your off subs....also i cant stress enough how important bananas are(potassium) and multivitamins in general get plenty of liquids in ya and eat healthy and workout once a day(sit-ups,push-ups,jumping jacks)get your blood moving and sweat sweat sweat! stay away from caffeine and fatty foods as they store all the bad stuff you want to get out of your system including beer :(..all of this being said there is NO CURE for wd's but maybe this advice will make it a little easier to cope...especially when you work 5 days a week in a close knit office environment! expect these symptoms to last about a month after tapering down to 1...2 millis of sub a day...although nobodies body is the same...best advice is just stick with it and dont sit around stay buzy dont just lay in bed...cause then you start thinking of subs and thats how you relapse...this drug maybe physical but the mental anguish lasts much longer than the physical...so stay strong my (sub)humans...once I move i'll be a regular on this site updating everybody on my progress...and eventually we'll all be able to drop the sub and just be human and you'll be10x happier and stronger YOU CAN DO IT!

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Hi, my hubby has random drug testing (hair) at his job. He has been on subs since 2008 and they know nothing about it. He has not once, failed a test :) He has a lot riding on his job too, 100+gs a year!!!

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To all: you should not dwell on getting off suboxone and do not rush through a 15 day detox. I do not believe that will work out for long it takes a long time to get addicted, and no one pushes through 3, 5, 15 dAys to get off their drug of choice so, suboxone treatment should be stopped with your dr. Yes the monthly fee is wanted, but they also know that it takes a long, very slow taper to properly come off suboxone. The fact is, you are not suppose to feel any withdrawal at all after your final tapered dose is done. No withdrawal. Not bad for a day or two, then normal. No withdrawal. So, good starting immediately after final dose. Slow taper takes a long time. So what? Besides money, why the hype and kicking yourself now cause you think you are on suboxone too long. Relapse rates are extremely low with long long term sub patients and high with short term. Also for person on 1/3 tab a day feeling withdrawal shortly after taking and then all day, 1/3 tab a day dose needs to be reviewed by doc. No wonder you feel horrible. Have that dose checked out and if it's increased (surely it will be), ask to have dosing where you take sub dose a few times during the day so relief is therapeutically spread out through day and right before bed. Talk to your doctor about 1/3 tab day and how you feel for rest of the long, agonizing day. In closing, all need to stop rushing their suboxone. Really think about what is the big deal if take a med every day. If med is stopping illicit use, you are helping yourself, taper slow slow slow and you can stop properly, with no withdrawal at the end. Dont settle for anything less than that. Also, about monthly fee, tell iffice about the $ being almost impossible, but you want to stay on med and see dr properly, simply suggest the amount per month you can handle to pay for visit, nothing is stopping an office from agreeing to reduce a patients fee on an as needed basis. Try it. If insured, & they don't take insurance, print out medical office visit claim forms from insurance co website, bring them to dr office for signature and cosing (3 min of staff time and within your rights if they dont take your insurance) then you fill out rest and send in to insurance co after each visit "assignment of benefits" line, check "no" meaning "no", to dr office receiving reimbursement of % of office fee you paid, and "yes" to you, the patient receiving reimbursement heck from your insurance co for % of office visit fee you pay each month/visit . Usually you can send retroactive up to 90 days. Let me know if any questions. Thanks.

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That is great cookie that you are down to a quarter every other day. That is very hard for a lot of people. It is best to be as low as possible when you taper off. The tapering is difficult because at those levels in sure your starting to feel sick. This is where I feel suboxone is different and it is very hard to stop. If are are able to ER lower and still function than I would encourage it. The way you would need to do it is dissolve the suboxone in water and strt doing millimeters. .25 of a pill is still 2500 mcgs.
Can you find Krantom where you live? If so I recommend buying the capsule form and do a 2 week tapering with krantom. With .25 every other day you would be in a position to take your last dose of suboxone and then the 2nd day start takinging krantom. I have a method that I postmarked previously in the thread. It consist I taking krantom for several days and then tapering off it over two weeks. That is the way I quit and have been ever since. There are still withdrawl symptoms but very manageable whixh allows me to work a very stressful job every day and take care o my family. In addition I highly recommend reading end your addiction now. A nutritional guide. It is very important that you get the nutrition it recommends due to the opiates creating major deficiencies in your body.

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Subsuck, what is Krantom? I've never heard of it and what does it do for you? I'm am sick to my stomach almost all the time, which makes eating almost impossible. Since I started subs, I've lost 30 lbs. which is ok by me but I'm so sick to my stomach. Is that the withdraway. I appreciate all your posts, you seem to know alot about this and I need to know, I'm almost done with 1/4 of a pill. What will happen next? Thank you and God bless you for helping me.

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Take a look online for more krantom info. Krantom really helps bridge the gap from suboxone to cold turkey. Once you stop suboxone the withdrawls are pretty bad and tapering with Krantom was a life saver. And your right that I do know a lot about getting off of suboxone because I had to live on it and actually get off. I've also helped a lot of my friends. I don't think anyone can give true credible advice unless you've gone through it. Suboxone is just too complex compared to all other opiated.

As far as where to get Krantom-- Your local smoke shops might have it but you don't smoke it. Check out info below!

Opiate detox
Kratom can lessen the severity of withdrawals with causing little itself. This gives it a huge advantage over modern treatment methods involving such drugs as . Though it is not fully known as to how Kratom eases , there are some likely reasons. tend to bind to mu and delta opioid receptors in the brain. This is the reason that users experience the powerful euphoric effects. The , however, is a result of the binding that occurs with the mu opioid receptors. Kratom's active alkaloids tend to bind only with the delta opioid receptors, and this binding action causes little, if any, addiction. It is possible that a small amount of binding occurs with the mu receptors, but this would be at a level to low to cause moderate addiction. Some claim that the mu binding action can increase if large amounts of mitragynine are consumed, but this is not clear.

Kratom as a Opiate substitute
Since Kratom affects the brain much like ; Kratom has been a popular opiate substitute in some parts of South-East Asia. Many opium addicts in Thailand are reported to chew Kratom leaves if opium is not available. In most cases, Kratom is just used as a substitute until more can be acquired, though some users do combine the two drugs.

Source: Kratom Wiki

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Cookie,
I understand, and it's tough going thru this. You said you were only on subs a short period of time- and you were tapering almost immediately right? I read how low you've gotten- that's amazing. GREAT job!!! Is it possible that you're still feeling withdrawals from your DOC? I don't think you ever mentioned how deep you were into it- or I never read it.

I know for me, everybody's different, but when I tried to quit opiates the PAWS went on for months & months. Subs really helped me get thru them by allowing me to taper. I could never do that on the Roxie's. The way my sub doc explained it to me was that the pain I was feeling was my brain literally rewiring itself. A long slow sub taper got me thru that.

I know you've got to get off the subs, but maybe you're thru the worst of it? I hope so. You've done great with your taper. It does get better

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I've read every post here and find it frustrating to see how many folks still believe they can kick an addiction without withdrawal symptoms, a little or the whole turkey. When methadone first came out it was called "magic" too, now suboxone is proving to be just as misleading. If you're addicted to a prescribed drug and your life is working, you're attached to a treatment provider or therapist, why detox? I notice most of the folks here have lives of suffering and pain - this is heart-breaking to hear because methadone, for instance, was synthesized to relieve that suffering. Withdrawal is the main cause of relapse - so if something's working, I say find a place for it in your life, work with it, this is not a horrid thing. However, if you can't stand your Rx, If you're ready and your motivation is for you only, you can do it but don't expect miracles of feeling great. Remember, the delicate chemical balance in the brain is altered by opiates and you can't expect to feel great again - but you'll live.

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You guys keep saying 7-10 days to get off subs...Im on day 12 and still can not sleep at all and very fatigued. I weaned down til below .5 mgs. I dunno, I have friends that have went through withdrawl..It's about a 30 day withdrawl. js..lets keep it honest!

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