How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 34)
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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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this is so ridiculous!!! I have seriously been trying to get off sub. I been tapering down to half a mg a day. when I dont do it I have no energy and RLS is terrible and I have young kids that I totally need energy for and no family to help me so its literally impossible to go to a rehab let alone a detox center. what to do???? frustrated!!!! ugh!!!

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I just want to share my experience with subs to give anyone hope in getting off of them. I have successfully weaned myself off of suboxone before with very little discomfort. (I am now on it again to get off of methadone)I am a longtime opiate/heroin addict, and my recovery has not been without relapse, like most of us. First off let me say, methadone is the DEVIL. If you are reading this and thinking of entering a meth maint program, DON'T DO IT. I tapered alllll the way down to 1mg, in pain the entire 6 mos of weening, (not to mention it makes you fat, even normally thin ppl like me) and after 2 weeks off meth I was still in withdrawal, so I got on subs again. The trick to getting off them is doing it yourself, bc the drs don't know s!%*t about it, as maaaaany posts prior have indicated. First off, no one should be taking more then 8mgs a day. There is no benefit beyond that dose and that's how it was meant to be taken. If your dr says otherwise, get a new dr. I have basically cut my own dose every day or every other day by a miniscule amount, a half a mg or so. Until you get down to a half mg or so. And then I would wait until I started feeling bad, and I would take the smallest piece you could break off. A quarter mg probably. Sometimes every other day. Until I didn't need it. Don't get me wrong, its still not fun, you have to want to do it. You will experience mild discomfort at times. But nothing like actual wd. Also it is so very important u do let it completely dissolve under your tongue so you get the maximum effect from the minimum amount. Good luck to everyone

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I'm reposting this incase it can presently help anyone.

I'm very sorry to hear what you have went through. Opiates are a very slippery slope and it isn't easy to kick but it is possible. I know the feeling of wanting to come off of suboxone and no longer dependent. I still very very blessed to have come off of them.
The first step is that I highly recommend this book (End your addicion now -A Proven supplemental nutritional program.) You can find it on amazon.
Addiction to Opiate(Along with most chemicals) creates a significant Hormonal defeciency in your brain. The author has a proven list of supplements that will help your brain create the Hormones that you are lacking. I Highly recommend Using his supplement program for at least a week or two before tapering. However, time is of the essence when coming off so If you don't have that time simply start the nutritional program right away as you are tapering. I'm repasting a previous post I made shortly after getting off of Suboxone. I hope this helps you. This isn't completly pain free way ( I don't believe there truly exists one). Less than 5 % of all people addicted to Opiates ever get off!! That was a scary statistic and I promised myself I would be one of the 5% that did. That was a big motivating factor. Also, Most Doctors will advise Opiate dependent patient that they "NEED" to stay on Suboxone because your body and/or nervous systems won't always allow you to get off. That is an "OUTRIGHT" lie. Our Nervous system, hormonal system, etc will go back to normal and fairly fast considering.

Krantom was very helpful for me to get off and even Lopermide(Immodium) 12 mg.


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I didn't give my history because I promise it's very similar to all of you.After pain treatments (2years)from a car accident everything from pcets to fentanyl lollipops 3 a day I was on health death bed with doc prescribing more meds... I finally quite going and walked into a suboxone doc.... My life turned around almost immediately.. However 4 years I was still on sub and feeling the fatigue and the constant doc appts which normally included a urine test.I'm a young professional not abusing other thing so I hated having to go through it.Docs had no real way to get off subs and my last appt was when I asked this very seasoned pain doc ask if any of his patients have ever gotten off subs... He was silent and then said no.he had one patient try and is still on 2 Mgs a month..... I was inspired o find this method which does work. It's not painless however have not missed one day of work and am thrilled to be off subs for 25 days... I have my energy back and lifes color and joy is back... I can actually pickuip my 11 month old first thing in the morning dull of energy an excited for the day.Don't use this to Play with going on or off!! It will turn out bad! Our bodies were made to deal with our problems naturally.Let gods greatest creation do it's job.... By the way.. You need emotional and inspiring lliterature to read because they are the best endorphins..Read your respective religions literature... I found anything published by he Mormon church trully inspiring.don't try anything else their to taper. It will add opiatesuckurpotential

I was on subs so I had to taper to 1/8th of pill for 3 days.
What you'll need: Krantom, L-Tyrosine-Vitamins-Liquid Chloropyll, Vitamin D, Clonodine. (Very Important-read End your addiction-Nutritional supplement program.
I could only find Krantom in few Smoke shops-
problems. Only get Krantom-Package of Pills, Package of crushed leaves to chew, maybe the extract... I didn't find it was worth it.
Day 1 3-4 pills of Krantom(captain Krantom) If Withdrawls are not bad then only use what you need
Day 2 3-4 Pills Also chew crushed leaves as needed. only take enough for withdrawls symptoms to go away
Day 3 3-4 Pills, Also Chew Crused leaves if needed Maybe a little extract under the tongue if Withdrawls are bad
Day 4 Same as Day 3 however if withdrawls aren't bad start tapering Krantom down
Day 5 2-3 pills A little curshed leaves
Day 6 2 Pills, I had run out of leaves and extract so only pills
DAy 7 Start tapering of Krantom even more maybe 2 pills
Day 8 Try not to take any all day
-I've read that some people took 3-4 weeks with Krantom. I wanted off sooner and didn't want a Krantom Dependency. This can happen
-Every morning take 2-- mgs of Ltyrosine +other supplements), Take vitamins, eat breakfast, try to work out Follow Drink a lot of Water, A couple of bottles of water mix a lot of liquid Chloropyll, I used it a lot.
Through out day stay busy, drink water, eat a lot if you can--Liquid Chloropyll
-Nights for the first week can be hard so try to have clonodine for sleeping or other sleeping pills -- Lots of melatonin.
-People recommend Benzos but I think that can add to a different dependecy.
-Krantom has a 3-6 hour hal-life, Suboxone has up to a 72 hourhalf life. Some claim csubosone can stay in youfor months so the smaller you take before tapering the better.

Read more: Addiction, Recovery Forum - Getting Off Opiates w Krantom it's worth it.

Getting down to the lowest dose of suboxone does help. If you can get down to 1mg per day that would be good. It was hard for me.,. I got down to about 2 mg before I stopped.
Most withdrawls gone after 10-14 Days. Energy was still somewhat low but survivable. 30 Days felt soo much better. Lopermide 10-12 tablets for the first 5 days of withdrawl. Loud music in my ears during emotional/anxiety moments seem to help a lot...

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I did try withdrawal ease without much success. It is just all natural herbs and vitamins, may you will have more success than I did. Good luck to you.

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Hello my name is Debbie. I have been on suboxon for about 2 years. The Dr. Started me off at 2 a day. I thank God I only started at 1/2 a day, and never did any higher dose. I now want 2 get off the suboxon . I googled how and it brought me 2 a medication that is herbal. It's under $100.00 a bottle, and I'm going 2 order it t-day. It's called withdrawal-ease, and the number is 1-888-732-6684. I'm praying it works. I just thought u may want 2 try it. Good luck

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the study full it's being done by Brown university (Providence, R.I.) I told everyone here I'll keep posting , it starts in January our brians have created new receptor site so when the brian FINALLY starts to make normal levels of dopamine the brian will only create enough for normal # of sites, hance we feel like crap... thing about creating a detox journal keep ya posted. depend in R.I.

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HOW CAN I CONTACT YOU? PLEASE PROVIDE AN EMAIL? OR CONTACT ME PLEASE!!! xxxxx@xxx {edited for privacy}

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May I email you for the directions? I have NEVER heard of or read anyone saying this. No answers anywhere! I need off of this NOW! Please email me or give me your contact info Thank You!

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Ive been on suboxone for over 4 years after getting off perc. I was only on .05 a day and I'm weening by doing one every other day. Other than feeling sluggish i'm also feeling very depressed. Is this normal?

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CAROL hi just some new info on the study the med is suppose to remove the extra receptor site called muns (not sure i spelled that right), that our brain has made during opiod abuse. i was told that is y sub 's are hard to get off of because brain won't ever make enough dopamine to fill the extra sites. after 9week abused brain will have just as may receptor sites as a "normal" brain. theres been one other study done in NH & it worked, but was done illegally so this one is officially the 1st 18 people on the east coast 18 people on the west coast.

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I've been on 2 8 mg/ day for five Yeats now. However I'm happy to state that in the last two months I've become quite sick of being dependent. I have allowed this drug to stop me from going on many jobs paying in the 35-50 an hour range and deprive my family of what would be a good life. I had enough and I'm now taking one a day and did it in 2 days time. Im plan on gojng to 3/4 a day next week. Im going to kick this crap for good. I have also found that by going to the gym it helps cut the craving and anxiety. Im also going to buy my wife and kids a new car with the $600/month ill save. Whats your motivation? a y

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I had been on the subs so long they were just kinda making me sick..it felt like poison..so def no desire to go back..that made it easy mentally. But i will say, because im so lethargic, its tempting to take pills again..i wont because im sick of the cycle, but i get cravings :/ music definitely helps..its always helped me :) just crossing my fingers that ill feel a little more normal by Halloween..its my fav holiday!

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Very impressive... I dont know many people that have been able to make it that long. Less than 5 % of opiate dependent individuals get off longterm and I know it's even less for those on subozone..
Definitely understand the motivation issues... Loud music in my head phones seemed to really helped.. Especially when I was feeling intense symptoms... It seemed to help the nuerotransmiters fire ..

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Im doing better...never going back to the subs..its been about 25 days and im still really unmotivated and really tired..i yawn every 5 min..working is really hard but goos to keep me busy..just waiting to feel a sense of normality again!

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How are you doing? Have you been able to stay off? The tapering technique for me would only take me soo far and once I got to about a 1/4 of a pill the withdrawls were constant so I decided to stop completely... It's the roughest withdrawls I could imagine and like many people I had work I had to still manage plus a family... I posted my technique earlier in the post(early2012) so please ask if you have any questions. It's now almost been a year and I can verify that it is possible to get off completely and life does return. Defiantly the 30day mark is a big difference maker.. I wish I could say its earlier but it really isn't. Even after 30 days it's still rough but it improves significantly. You have to fight it like a war and not give an inch of your progress back to the subs.. My first couple weeks I took small amounts of Kratom(find in a smoke shop). Which I think helped me get through some of the worst times... Let me know I you don't find my earlier post with my detailed method... I wish everyone well and remember that the human mind and spirit(soul) is eternal and is the most powerfuL force. It can overcome any obstacle...

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people are saying that if u can taper down to small pieces that's the easiest way..even go every other day, every two, etc...for me, this wasnt an option. i was on it for so long and i couldnt miss a dose and still function or go to work so i stopped at about .75mg. make sure you have a good doctor that will give you what you need to get through the accute wd's..i was given klonopin for anxiety, chlonodine for aches and resltess legs, plus my bp was sky high, and trazadone for sleep. only take what you really need, you don't wanna get hooked on anything else, but don't make yourself suffer either. I recommend mentioning to your doc maybe finding a mild mood stabilizer or antidepressant as well, but that's up to him..my original doc had me on lamictal for bipolar, which im not, and all it's done is make me tired. so now im on prozac..still waiting to feel its effects, that should help with energy too. take vitamins, drink lots of water. rest when you're at your worst, but when you start to feel better, try to stay busy and exercise. it keeps your mind occupied and makes time go by faster. you have to really want to kick this, and have patience! when i kicked oxy's, it took me months to get back to "normal"..i hoped i would never have to go through it again, but such is life..i've learned my lesson!

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You should be so proud of yourself. You made it, you are off this awful pill. I know depression comes with it but it sounds like you have a good dr. Can u tell me how he told you to go about it. I'm down to small pieces a day, but I can't make that jump. I want off, I hate it. But be proud of yourself, depression will go away and you will get your energy back. I have such a long road to go. But i'm hoping to be like you one day.

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so it seems to be true that it takes about 30 days..? its been just over two weeks for me, and although i feel much better, i still get restless at night, upset stomach in the morning, and most of all, just completely drained and weak. trying to be patient! i suffer bad from depression and anxiety so my new doc started me on antidepressants..hopefully that'll help, though that'll take time too..just want it to end! It feels like it will never go away...

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