How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 33)
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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Well, just got back from my pain / addiction Doc. As I explained all the issues trying to get off Subutex, his first response was, "I told you how dangerous and bad that stuff can be!!" Then the next sentence he tells me, "wow!!, you're brain must really be messed up / addiction damaged from the decades of Narcotics!" As I thought to myself, Duh!! Why am I seeing you? The next sentence was, "do you want to try Tramadol?" I explained that 15 years ago was addicted to that, has seizures etc, the Doc then told me to continue taking trying to reduce as much as I can. Duh? I then asked him about Kratom. He said he never heard of it. Oh well, wish me luck.

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30 days is most withdwrals are gone. You do start to feel better after 15 but certain withdrawls linger. I want to help encourage anyone attempting to get off subs because it is more difficult then most people understand. Less than 5% of all dependent users get off... I want you to be in that 5%.. That Stat is what motivated me to get off...
I have also known individuals to use tramadol as a bridge as they are getting off to reduce withdrawals for the first 20 days however one must be very careful to use the minimum because Tramadol can be a very difficult med to get off because the withdrawals are very Psychological plus physical. I would only recommend using it the first 10-14 days to help with the intense withdrawals.
I had to continue my profession while getting off and anything relief was good.

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Thank u, am researching and trying to get Kratom too. I was told by a top methadone clinic in Fl, how these drugs rob u of nutrients. They give vitamins and supplements via IV as they say the body doesn't absorb them through the stomach. Makes sense. Will look into the book. Thank u. U say after 30 days, u felt better?

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Look at my previous posts about a bridge that will ease you into he withdrawls. It's not easy getting off but it's worth it.. It really takes 30 days to get off. Meantime helped me as a bridge. Let me know if anyone has questions.

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Am going to subutex Dr. Tomorrow to report all the failures and issues I am having trying to "taper" off this evil drug. I am curious to see his next mode of action if any will be. will post.

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I'm in the same boat. After 16 days of the runs, rls, cramps, ill etc, things aren't getting better. Before subutex, was on methadone, opana and fentynl for 12 years. I thought the methadone wd's were bad!! Nothing compared to this!!

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Please let me know your secret, I am down to 8, 8mg pills, cannot afford to buy anymore and just sick of it all, I don't want to be a slave to anything anymore. I have managed to get myself down to 2mg a day but can't seem to go any lower without feeling like s***. I have to work and am alone with 2 teenagers who depend on me

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Hi Sub
i am on .025 of 1mg I would love to know how to get off with the least Wds This is my second day without and I am up do to the extreme RLS. PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME.

Truly thank you so much for your response
Patient

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Hi Leslie
Well its day two and I dont feel horrible getting off sub yet. This is what I take first thing in the morning I take my 2 300mg lithium 3 600mg neurontin and 2 .5 klonopin and at night I have been taking 2 300mg lithium 4 600mg neurontin 2 .5 klonopin and 2 150mg trazadone. I feel lethargy and that is the worst so far. Hopefully I will not go through hell but if I do I am going to do what it takes to be done with suboxone, Also I ordered Kratom which should be here Wednesday and I purchased imodium as well but have not had to use as of yet. I am going to the bathroom for the first time in years without a laxative so I will wait until that part gets out of hand to start imodium. Anyway thank you so much for your encouraging words and I hope that we chat again. I can use all the help I can get.

Patient1111

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kratom powder. get it online, not at smoke shops. There ARE and IS good vendors that have the real powder form. that is best used for getting off suboxone as it takes the suboxone's antagonistic and agonistic properties on various pain receptors(unlike what pharm who invented suboxone says, it actually hits and effects other pain recpetors hence Kratom washes away the sub on those too!) tbsn(1-2 x daily first week) try to continue to at most one month. Minor WD's you will suffer, nothing compared to suboxone. Sorry you had issues with the Kratom you sued. the powder is the key.

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Hi Douglas
Many thanks for your thoughts. This is my plan an please let me know what you think. I was going to skip .025 sub one day then take a .025 then skip two days and take another .025 sub then skip three days take sub then four days take sub. Inbetween I thought I would take klonopin, requip, tramadol only as needed. Please let me know your thoughts.

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH
Patien

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i apologize, I scrolled down and later saw you wrote a detailed post about how you used Kratom to help you get off suboxone. What you said does shed light for many who do not know about things like Kratom, and how truly helpful it can be. one thing also, at least for me after being on sub for five years, and being off for a year now, is that you have to be in the right mentality psychologically and physically to truly gain the benefits of using Kratom. I know some who yet do not understand they just aren't ready to get off. Know matter how much you or I can inform those suffering that literally say they want off suboxone, we can only be advocates through our words and people like us are emphathetic in wanting to help others. With time, hopefully more awareness about long term suboxone and the potential dangers that it could lead to being on it long term will be exposed. I apologize again for the hasty remark I originally posted. You seem like a good dude.

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If you're going to or trying to make people who are taking suboxone looking to find a taper program feel even more nervous and anxious, you're doing a good job. I would stop messing with people's minds as it doesn't do any good. You are actually harming them moreso. What this individual refuses to tell you which I WILL, is something called Kratom. yes, it will help, is a plant, is legal to get, and I can't stand forums where people lack any empathy for others.

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It's not all in your head. sorry to be so upfront, but by saying that could potentially scare off many individuals who really believe they are ready and motivated to get off suboxone. After being on it for years, I used something called Kratom> It is a tropical plant, that you can use for around 2-4 weeks. It takes away the binding of the suboxone on the varioius pain receptors(mu, delta, and kappa) Suboxone is not something to think of as just in your head when dealing with withdrawals.

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Hello JR
I hope you read this post. I am on .025 of sub and I take lithuim for bipolar along with klonopin as needed and trazadone as need. I also have tramadol, flexural and requip. can you give me specific regiment that you took to get off suboxone,

I really appreciate all your help and God Bless

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Thank you Jared for all your help. I hope you will stay with me through the next few weeks as I know I will need support of others that have gone through the same thing.
One more thing I have read that you can also do this to help with wd's let me know what you think. I have been told that since I am on .025 sub that I skip a day than take more sub than skip 2 days take another piece skip 3 days take a piece then skip 4 days then jump. What are you thoughts. Thank you so much for responding to my blog and again I hope you stay with me.

God Bless you

Sincerely,
Patient 1111

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I have tried that and sorry to say its a total waste of money .Try the Kratom and tramadol.Nuerontin wich is gabapentin also works well! Good luck !

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I think tramodol would mitigate the withdrawal symptoms and help. Be careful to only use enough to reduce symptoms.. You don't want to have to go through withdrawl symptoms for tramodol afterwards. They can be very severe physically and mentally.. Try to get 4 weeks off suboxone. That is important.

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Hi
I am one my first day with out sub .25 of 1mg do you think its ok to use tramadol occasionally and klonopin?
ALL YOUR HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Patient1117

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Hi, I am .25mg of 1m of suboxone and want to quit can I use tramadol to help with WDs and flexaril as well?

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