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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Hey Monkey, I don,t really suffer with the night time eating but I have developed a sweet tooth while on subs. I noticed this last time I was on them also. It,s like I can,t get enough chocolate. I get those bags of mini chocolate bars and its gone in no time at all. It shows around my waistline.

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Monkey, first visit is $250 cash, all other visits $200 cash. I told him I wanted off them and he just looked at me like why would want that. I've gotten down this far, I'm going to try to do it. As far as opiates, up here it's really hard to get them.
I'm on permanent disability from worker's comp. and they won't even give me
vics, percs, nothing. I'm so sick of all this stuff, I wish I never started with thiese
subs. Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

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My first visit was $500 but now all visits are $100. I was told that a dr can only see 500 patients per month for the suboxone program and they have to take 8hr more training to treat addiction thats why its so expensive this infomation came from the addiction class that im taking it is very informative.

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Some people do have a detox when they go on Suboxone. I did. I was told I wouldn't, but I became VERY depressed and it lasted for days. My doctor told me it was withdrawal/detox.

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Im in fay, nc

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Chaz.. Im in fay, nc

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No kidding, do you kno of help hete? Ice made a appt w a dr the fifteenth, im attempting to stretch out wat I have till thn

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I've been following your posts and am very interested in your plan as I've been trying to taper off myself. I was an oxy/H user for 4 years but have been on silicone for about 7 years. Started 16 mg a day then cut down to 12 about 18 months ago. In the past month I've cut down to 6mg a day and have a months worth left. I'd be ecstatic to hear your plan as I'm flying blind right now. My email address is {edited for privacy}

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Tapering is a constant struggle daily for me..

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thanks, i am gonna do that. hopefully it's gonna be painless. i also have some xanax and klonopin. so wish me luck. right now im taking tiny little pieces probably like an eighth of a tablet and a few crumbs is what i will take on wednesday and then tramadol. thanks again.

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There was a young guy on the news that used H for awhile and said that ibogaine helped him. He didn't have any withdrawals and was back home in a few days. Ibogaine is banned from the U.S. , so this kid found a clinic in Mexico. He said that it all came to $7000.00. That's with treatment and airfare, and what not. I would do it if I didn't have a toddler to look after. So, if any of you need some options, you can look into that. Ibogaine is a hallucinogenic drug. I heard its suppose to reset your brain chemistry. Plus, the chances of relapsing are slim. Good luck to you all!!

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umm the easiest way is to do it on your own. Just go to a psychiatrist and they will give you a script. I've done it. The doctors in the clinics tend to give you the highest dose possible so you keep coming back. In other words they substitute one opiate with another. Its a scam in most educated peoples opinion. No doubt the clinic will put you on upwards of 16+ mg which is absolutely ridiculous. My doctor wanted me to take two 8mg pills, but I was smarter then that so bit the bullet and only took 4mg from the start. And I was shooting more than 80 dollars of H a day. You can do it. I was dumb and kept taking 4mg until I ran out. Then I switched to either kratom tea or poppy seed tea. For all the people that don't know, poppy seeds are opium seeds, and contain minute amounts of latex sap. Therefore, you can put them in warm water, shake and make a tea. And kratom is a plant from southeast Asia that is a weak opiate. It is completely legal and does work. you buy it on the internet. Or use loperamide or immodium which is an opiate but doesn't directly affect the brain. If you take mass amounts of it (more than ten pills), it mitigates withdrawal. I got off of H once using that and cough medicine (dextromethorphan). It does not clog you up though, dispute it being an anti-diarrhea, contrary to common assumption. You fan take 100 pills without harm. There are other ways to beat it, but the government/doctors/pharmaceutical companies will want you to believe meds are the only way, just to profit. Do a google search for effective home remedies for opiate addiction. Trust me, don't keep giving your life savings to the already wealthy doctors. Try things on your own first, then consider others. Honestly, I have not been to a doctor in years for that reason, and do not subscribe to over-priced insurances. Trust me, there is not just one way to beat this. We can all do it, the safer way. And I'm not just an anti-whatever trust me. I'm just trying to prevent people from being hooked on subs or methadone for the rest of their life.

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this is because sweets activate your tastebuds and release endorphins, or endogenous morphine(morphine is naturally produced in muscles and tissue). So when you are getting off of something, even if on subs, you crave food. This is because subs do not activate your opiate receptors completely, but rather just tickle them. Therefore, your body sends out an sos for more opiates, since there is a void. That means that you will naturally eat more, and usually masturbate more since that releases them as well. Don't worry, its completely natural.

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yes, ibogaine does work. Any hallucinogen is basically a miracle cure for addiction, although the authorities do not want people to know this. I mean, why condone way safe drugs (hallucinogens are as safe as cannabis), when they can profit from pharms. The first time I quit it was by accident. I was in withdrawal, doing terrible, and decided to use some acid, since my friend had it. I figured it would allow me to escape my mind for awhile. It was a horrible trip, but the next morning I woke up expecting to feel like s*** on day three (off of H), and felt completely back to normal. I was surprised, and decided to do an experiment. I got more tabs, then got back on H. Full blown. I quit, on day two, took acid and viola! Next day no withdrawal. I was so surprised again that I did some research, and found I am not the only one. Many people have done this. Any type of hallucinogen will work. Acid, shrooms, morning glory seeds, Hawaiian baby Woodrose I suggest if you cannot leave home, go online and get some Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Quality ones from the islands. Take about 3-5. Gauge it yourself. It does not make you loopy, just makes colors vivid and your thoughts different. Contrary to popular belief, hallucinogens do not make you see leprechauns. I recommend it whole-heartedly.

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Hey Antonio, hallucinogens may not make you see leprechauns but I took a hit of doublebarrel orange sunshine back in early seventies. I was at a dance and was leaning against a coke machine and all of a sudden the coke machine melted all over the floor. Weird stuff for sure.

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With all due respect, I have to say I disagree with the statement that "hallucinogens are as safe as cannabis". Just saying.... They can be very dangerous, especially with someone who already has a mental disorder. I'm all for the open minded suggestions, however, disagree with this statement. Also, unfortunately psychiatrists are trained to treat with pharmaceuticals, pretty much that's it. To say that they are doing it, and keeping people on high doses of meds to pad their bank accounts is a gross generalization. There are many who care vary much about their patients and the choices they make are for the best interest of the patient. You may not agree with them, but to say they are THAT unethical is unfair and untrue. Yes, SOME are unethical and are looking out for themselves.

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My friend told me suboxone has a long half life so I'm gonna take none tomorrow and.5 (a crumb) thenext day. Ill do this a week or so then go to every 3 days. I think this will work. What do any of u think? I just bought 1 strip & 1 pill (8mg) & want this to be the last of my doing this stuff. Heck, if I still feel fine the day after tomorrow, I may not take it at all.

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Yes monkey very very true im in a after care program now and my dr and the people that work with us in our groups are very caring and trustworthy people i didnt know this till i started my program but in this state of NC a DR can only treat so many suboxone patients per month thats why its so hard to get a suboxone DR and the only way for a DR to prescribe suboxone is to have extra training in the treatment of addiction so with that being said they are not trying to keep you on this they have patients waiting to take your place but here is the thing its how much they charge for your visit that tells you weather they are trying to get money out of you or not my DR charges me $100 per visit once a month and it cost me $500 for my first visit that i made payments to him on. He saved my life im sure when you go from 25/30 1000mg pain killers per day to only taking 2-8mg suboxone a day i think thats pretty good its taken me a long time to get to where i feel better as far as my body damage that i was doing (stomach liver ect.) But now im feeling much better now ive been trying to quit taking the suboxone but its been a struggle for me it has a lot to do with my will power but i will get there eventually i say to most on here that are really trying to do what they are supposed to look back see where you were and what you were doing to where you are now are you better are you trying your best are you following EXACTLY what the DR tells you if you are and you are not getting better maybe you need to change DR are you being totally honest with him my DR could care less if he gets my money or not there is someone there ready to take my place but he does care about my health and life im sure. There are still very good DR out there if your not satisfied find another one take charge of your health be honest with them ask questions trust them or find one you do trust ADDICTION IS TREATABLE NOT CURABLE this is something you will live with the rest of your life. I also suggest taking a program like the one i take its extremely informative and they truly care. The best thing i have learned is im not alone and im not much different than the others in my class they are from age 18-70 and they have become support for each other my insurance paid for this class until i got into there after care program now its $17 a week but i gladly pay that just to be able to have that support from the friends that understand me. Whats your life worth ive lost way to many friends from this i dont want to loose any more and my life is more important than the cost of this. I wish everyone on here the best sorry for the length of my message.
Thanks Steve

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I said u was not gonna take a crumb of sub todsy but felt the withdraw and anxiety coming on and have things to do today. So I took a tiny piece, like a crumb and I feel better but I NEED TO GET OFF THESE. HOW long does the withdrawal last. I've been taking suboxone for 9 months. 2mg. For most the time, now about a crumb maybe .5 mg.

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Hi Jill, If you can cut your 8mg strip into 16 pieces that will give you 16 half mgs.
If you can get by on one of these little pieces once a day for a week then cut one of those little pieces in half (.25mg) and take one of those for a week. Don,t taper down until you can get thru the whole day without feeling lousy. Give your body time to adjust to the taper. After your on .25mg for a week stop taking it. Sub halflife is around 37hrs. I really didn,t start to feel the wds. until around day 4. Everyone is different. If you can get something to help you sleep just in case you have trouble may not be a bad idea. If you take the time to taper properly your probably looking at 10-12 day of feeling kind of bad but NOTHING like an oxy wd. You,ll be able to go to work or whatever. Sleep may be an issue for a few nights.
I didn,t make up this taper stuff. I did this last time I was on subs. The sub Dr. came up with the taper plan. You got to go slow and as low as you can. Don,t rush it.

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