Clonazepam Withdrawal (Page 2)
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Klonopin, or clonazepam is one of the hardest drugs to get off of. I have seen this in hospital settings as a nurse myself and as a patient of this horrible drug. Benzodiazepines should never have been invented. I have been on this med for 3 years now, and cannot handle the withdrawal affects no longer than one month. I wish the doctor would have warned me of how dependent your brain and the central nervous system relies on this med only after even 2 months of taking this. I have been advised by doctors to slowly shave the pill down over a period of a year if needed, and then I have had some doctors tell me that may never be able to get off of this drug ever!! Withdrawal symptoms include for myself a feeling of anxiety and panic constantly, never-ending, shaking, hot and cold, no appetite, frequent diarhia, vomiting, no sleep, nightmares if I am lucky to get any sleep. Weak muscles, muscle pain, eye sensitivity to bright lights, hallucinations since the drug controls the gaba receptors in your brain, thus affecting your eye functioning as well. Worse of all is the constant fear and panic, day after day, week after week, never-ending. I would like to kill the doctors that invented this crap and the one whom so casually prescribed this to me, or better yet, put them on this drug for 3 months to 1 year and cut them off cold turkey at say 3mg a day. That is all I have to say for now.

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I have all of the symptoms of Nic...where can i get help???? I am so sick don't want tot go back into the hospital.... from clonaxepam but I haven't slept in months...I am going 100% CRAZY....iCAN'T FIND A DR TO HELP ME WEAN....

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I am dying from clonazepam...Please were do i get help..i can't find a dr to help me taper.......HELP Please I can't sleep, walk drive cook or bathe talk......What do i do...i tried to reach Nic

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It is risky for people to use psychotropics and they should be used as a last resort. Be very careful. It is important to make your own decisions with all medical advice. Remember, your doctor doesn't have to live with his mistakes.....you do. The benzo withdrawal symptoms can be impossible to tolerate and should never be compared to a coffee addiction. Doctors easily prescribe psychotropics because we live in a society that does not permit people to stop working in order to cope with their crisis. Mos people have very stressful lives. It is also very sad that so many people are subjected to such devastating situations that they develop PTSD. I wish I could make everything better but I'm not in control of this ship.

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Good reply Aaron, but keep in mind, that some people get addicted to aspirin. But, one drug that helps one person should not be taken off the market because one person became addicted to it. Each person should be evaluated by his/her doctor unless the drug is found to be dangerous in and of itself. I am a Police Officer and I think that Medicinal Use of Marijuana should be legal in all states. However, I do not think anyone should be at work while stoned, especially if your job is dangerous. I do not want my surgeon doing open heart surgery on me and forget what he is doing or where he put his instruments.

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I completely understand, sorry Rob if that came off the wrong way. I believe everyone has their own cures, ambien just wasn't mine, sometimes it is, sometimes its not, it's just the type of mind i have... its very up/down/all around. For normal people, i'm certain it would help them if not save them. For me it makes it harder to wake up then if i hadn't taken it at all and just gotten my reg. insomnia sleep.

i think i'm going back onto ambien though, i'm in a state where medical canabis use is illigal, even if i'm just using it in food/tea. So, i will take ambien for 3 weeks to get me into a good schedule, i will fight the urge to sleep walk, its possible, very just takes my self control haha, then, will hopefully be on track and not need it for sleep.

Ambien does help, just don't let it take over peoples.....

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Well Aaron, I can understand your frustration with Ambien, but you trashed the drug because of your side effects, which most people go by. Ambien has been a lifesaver for me. I do not sleep until I drop, been like that most of my life. Doctors tried several drugs, I would not take them due to the hangover. When the doc gave me Ambien I said yeah, right, let's try it. Have been on it for 11 years, 10mg at each sleep time. I have ran out of it for 10 or more days because I didn't remember to refill. NO withdrawal symptoms, other than I have insomnia, which I have anyway.

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oh one last thing i forgot. I hate ambien for the fact that after about a week, it will start to give me digestive problems, minor diahrea, and my eyeballs each develope their own headache in the back of them and its just so annoying! My neck also gets stiff, and from what i've read on peoples descriptions of lsd, through some of my courses i've taken, it is probably equivelant to that acid feeling they get in their necks whilie on it, how its just completely tense and soar. ugh. i hate... pills

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I strongly disagree as well, even ambien is more hard to get off of then this, and i could easily stop. But i'm not saying thats how it is for everyone - everyone has their own reactions to chemicals and behaviors as well as mental control over themselves while in these states of mind.

I'm not one to suggest illigal drugs, but i have had great luck in the past with my severe insomnia, depression, anxiety and most of all, the inability to simply RELAX and not be so tense all the time.

I do not ever smoke marijuana, so it does not effect my thinking or brain cells, as well as health and lungs, i cook it with food and in tea before sleep, it's legal here though. And it saved me from the wierd chest problems and respiration problems i was noticing from ambien and klonopin, i finally just got off all my meds once school had ended and i could not be so stressed out. I dropped the adderal, dropped the sleeping meds, and now will only ever use cannabis tea... and it works wonders. I feel better then i have ever felt in my entire life and its no lie, i can easily just cut cold turkey for a year, i've done it many times - the only problem is that big pharma and the big brother like you thinking otherwise which helps you lose control over your mind while believing the lies of how its addicting. Sure, it may have a minor mental addiction if you make it a 6 year habit, for every day... but thats ... not EVER needed, come on... but even then its no different then many things i have come across that you naturally become dependent on FAR worse, that they sell right at drive through's or grocery stores. There are no withdrawal effects, the only problem i had my very first year of using it a few times a week to get sleep and then cutting cold turkey, was that i missed the taste of the tea, so i found other yummy tasting teas. And it was harder to get to sleep of course, but after that first night things got beyond back to normal, my insomnia was cured.

Kavakava and valarian root helped quite a bit to. And a side note about ambien, it seems to make me perfectly normal, or seem like i'm more myself, but when i realize the next day i was a completely different person it scares me, what if this pill causes schizophrenia/bipolarity/draws attention to a split persona which in turn creates the unnatural existing idea of a split personality.

I'm ranting... yes, and believe it or not i just took a klonopin an hour ago, cause i'm on an important business trip, and look at me i'm at least talking somewhat normal, its working its hardest on me as well - but its just not normal, its not natural i dont like it, it creates a multiple personality in some wierd aspects, not in a scary way, but , just as if your in a dream and people are around you talking but then you realized, theres no one there... your just somehow dreaming while awake....

I don't like clonazapan nor ambien, i hate hard pills, i hate all pills in general... but hey, if its what helps people with things far worse then my conditions, i feel they should go for it. But they could at least legalize certain things for the patients who don't need that type of med, when theres a perfect alternative already, just to many assholes abuse it.and ruin it for everyone.

anyways, hope this helps anyone .... i dont know why i wanted to post, i just wanted to say that... and its one of the effects of these meds on me.....its been a long while since i stopped taking them, im not starting again, but, i'm in bad need of sleep.
so goodnight
:)

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ANY thing can be habit forming, and cause your body to NEED it. some people's bodys just NEED a medication to make them normal anyway. for example.. i am bipolar with other disorders, there fore i have to take mood stablizers daily, to make the chemicals in my brain at a normal level. bc without it, my highs and lows are very extreme there is no in between really. and it sucks to have to take a medication every day, to NEED it esp to be normal surely i didnt ask to be this way, or want to.. neither did i grow up wanting to be an addict or addicted to ANYthing. =[ however i am fighting a severe opiate addiction right now. i volunteraily put myself in an outpatient clinic and was put on methadone. some people want to look down on methadone bc they think its substituting one drug, like heroin for example, to another. one addiction to another. bc methadone can be habit forming as well, become dependant on it.. well the fact is, my body is already dependant on opiates i cant last more than 2 days, cant stand the withdrawl that long. i started off taking hydrocodones and percocets because i NEEDED them. i liked the way they made me feel, gave me energy and motivation and i got things done. my tolerance grew so high i could take at least 75 5mg pure oxy codone percocets [meaning no tylenol in them] in one day, and more. my tolerance is so high it will kill someone my size or even bigger. i only weigh 90lbs ad am only 5'2'' so yea. i do have severe problems that cause me to be in horrific pain but so many i wont go into which or why and so on. but yes i also did like the 'high' from the drug. more less the energy it gave me bc im anemic due to a unintentional eating disorder so im always tired and fatigued =/ anyway i began taking stronger things.. oxy contin and then i was tricked into doing raw heroin thinking it was an oxy contin. i then began doing scramble and china white and other forms of heroin bc it was alot stronger and cheaper. i began taking it in august, in september i started trying to get into the maryland health department's outpatient treatment clinic. it took me until the end of january to be seen. i could of been locked up or dead by then. in fact i went from snorting the heroin to injecting it, and found out i was pregnant in december i stopped EVERYTHING immediately but i was already 5 weeks pregnant, 2 weeks later after going through a week of withdrawl AND morning sickness on top of it, going off everything cold turkey, feeling like i was dying or wishing i was to make it stop.. i lost the baby and miscarried =/ which was extreme pain, so they prescribed me loritab / vicodin (hydrocodone) and endocet / roxicet (percocet) which just put the opiates back in my body and i was back at square one. =( From august to december I only got high 3 times. and i did it every day, I had to.. I was buying it to and buying only enough to, keep me from not being sick. I spent about $1,000 a month, sometimes more trying to fight the battle on my own, and get off, because I couldnt go to the doctors and by then in the end.. tell them I have an opiate addiction that severe I was hospitalized from the withdrawl symptoms bc I got EVERY single on that has EVER been written as a symptom. from shaking freezing to sweating horrifically, to tempatures of up to 103, to my eyes watering until i felt like i was pouring acid from my eyes burning, to runny nose, and vomiting non stop to consitpation and diahreia to headaches to my whole body hurt it wasnt even just muscle or bone pain to fatigue and depression to anxiety attacks like you wouldnt beleive i felt like i couldnt even breath my chest was caving in my heart racing, it was probably the worst experience of my life and i wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy. opiates from my experience and others that i know, have said.. it is the hardest and worst addiction EVER, even worse than these benzos. however benzo addiction.. trying to come off can cause you to have seizures but a heroin or opiate addiction that is really SEVERE, you can die trying to go off it cold turkey. i didnt have medical assistance and they treated me like s*** when i went to the hospital they gave my boyfriend going through the same s*** as me but no where near as bad, alot of methadone so he caught a buzz and was all f****d up nodded out, however they wouldnt give me s***. but motrin (which hello if im an opiate addict.. wtf is a motrin going to do for me? i mean really.. NOTHING ..and thats exactly what it did, nothing.) they tried giving me a benedryll althought idk why they thought i needed allergic medication o.O but it makes me tired and knocks me out so i couldnt take it, i had to drive us home, and then they gave me phenobarbitol / donnital for my stomache to deal with the nausea which.. it didnt help, his cocktail of non-narcotics.. SUCKED. and i was right back to the streets buying prescription drugs and street drugs to just maintain what i needd to live and feel normal by day 2 i couldnt even get out of bed. so yea some pple are lucky as hell and dont get addicted or dependant others like myself with an addictive personality.. go through hell bc we become physically dependant weither we were taking it as needed, as we were supposed to, or abusing it to get high, it doesnt matter. you can all look down upon me and my story because of the things i did i was prescribed the pain pills i was taking in the begining.. many people abuse their medication, i took mine properly however i still became addictetd just like alot of pple, after my body physically needed it, and i couldnt get to the doctors or get a doctor to write me another script bc i needed it, without telling him im physically dependant so hed look at me like im a drug addict and say no for sure then, and then never write me any kind of narcotic ever again and it sucks bc i really need some medications. i really need an anxiety pill, but because of my past history.. theyre not going to give it to me. i asked for one at the hospital, not a benzo i had them at home.. if i wanted benzos i have access to them, but i dont like them, i dont like drugs like weed or flexorils that knock you out and make you tired and lazy and you do nothing. i like to get energy and get s*** done! and if you want to know why i dont just take caffiene pills and energy drinks and all that instead.. i have, but i have to take them all day on a regular daily basis so my body has became used to all that stuff.. and it does

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Clonazepam should be better regulated and not given at all maybe. i have tried to get off it for the last two years and go nuts each time hallucinations lack of sleep, impending doom and nervousness thanks doctors

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Yes, for some the drug does work wonders, however, as to being hooked on it, truthfully that will happen with ANY substance that you take into your body regularly for a long period of time.

It does not matter if it is a prescription drug such as Clonazepam or your morning coffee. Your body gets used to that substance after you have been using it for a long period of time and any sudden withdrawal of the substance will result in some withdrawal symptoms.

The primary thing you need to remember is that there is a difference between addiction and dependence. Dependence results from taking the same amount of something into your body in regular amounts for a prolonged period of time.

Addiction results from abusing the med, taking it too often or taking increasingly more and more.

Dependency withdrawals are inconvenient and annoying and do cause some illness and problems, but they are generally not outrageous and will not kill you.

Abuse addiction withdrawals can cause seizures, coma, and death in some cases.

Drugs such as Benzodiazepines cause alterations in body and brain chemicals, that is how they work. The withdrawal problems when you try to get off of it occur because your body and brain basically forget how to function without this substance, so the symptoms occur because your brain and body have to reset and learn to do without it again.

As I said, this happens with anything you put in your body regularly, regardless of what it is.

Next, no one, NO ONE, has to take a drug blindly. When your doctor prescribes something you are always free to make your own decision to use it or not.

You can ask your doctor questions about it, you can ask your pharmacist, you can research more information on your own online, in books, in medication leaflets, in PDRs and etc.

So everyone is free to learn about a drug, what is causes, what types of effects it has, how severely it causes dependence and if you may need to take it for life or eventually stop taking it and what you will have to do to stop taking it.

3mgs is a very low dose and it does seem that your doctors have tried to support you in getting off of it, since it seems that has still not worked for you, it seems you may need more than the physical support they are providing. It is possible you have a psychological dependence as well and need to see a counselor or someone who can support you in that way as well to make the transition easier and teach you coping skills.

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I too disagree with this statement. I have post-traumatic stress syndrome with car riding as well panic disorder, and this has been nothing but helpful in road trips and my everyday life.

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I have congestive heart failure and my nerves are shot, I don't sleep. But, if not for this pill i would be an absolute loon. I strongly disagree with your comment, but that is your opinion.

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