Adderall Backorder (Page 84)

I take generic Adderall 20 mg for narcolepsy and there is not one local pharmacy that has it in stock. I have never had this problem before. The pharmacies are saying that it's on backorder from the manufacturer. Is anyone else having problems getting their scripts filled?

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Re: stephen e (# 1659)

Teva dropped their old formulary and took on the name brand formulary instead when they became the name brand producer. The name brand and their generic are the same formulary now.
Sandoze also changed their formulary. Their old one was stronger from what I understand.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1650)

The FDA just gives recommendations as general guidelines for product labeling. They are not set in stone. They are based on studies on effective dosage etc. But there are many out there who need more for a proper effective dose and they don't deny that.

The doctor can prescribe as much as they believe to be medically necessary by law. There is no actual legal limit.

Insurance companies on the other hand are just like any other company with a bottom line that is responsible to the shareholders so they will try to limit how much you can get and make you jump through hoops to get more.

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Re: Mo (# 1657)

before doing anything hasty, I'll update you when I try to fill my next script in a couple days, lol

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Re: HCStymie (# 1662)

Everything you wrote is technically true. In the real world, MDs will do what their tolerance level is for possible medical malpractice, Hospital Administration Censure, licensure Board investigations, etc. Real life example.... most doctors will Rx Doxycycline to every and any stranger in any ER showing symptoms of Chlamydia, and yet the same MDs will NOT Rx the same 10 days doxycycline BID for a patient presenting all symptoms and exposure for Lyme or tick related disease. Yup. MD will say, "we need a positive antibody test and positive western blot".
Patient: but the tests are only 70% accurate, slow, I was hiking, felt the bite, have the dead tick, have a bull's-eye rash and Bells Palsy. MD: "Nope, I won't write the script on clinical presentation. But STIs are a public health issue so here's the doxycycline with amphetamines".... The entire diagnosis and Rx is based on clinical presentation and what the patient reports. U/A's are not mandated to confirm patient is taking vs selling.... And patients are humans. So they lie. Some will say whatever necessary to get 60mg a day, take 30mg a day and stock/board half the script for rainy day shortages! Common. So in REAL practice it varies massively from one MD to another, age of patient, etc. The lack of regulation may create vast differences in treatment methodologies.. HOWEVER, the DEA is still going to base its annual allowance on PDR and FDA recommendations. UNTIL large scale studies are done wrt to efficacy and dosing.. it's basically random. Meaning, absurd.

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Re: HCStymie (# 1661)

Formulary is not formula or a recipe. A formulary "a list of prescription drugs covered by a prescription drug plan or another insurance plan offering prescription drug benefits. Also called a drug list." Teva did become the brand name manufacturer but there's no evidence that they changed their recipe. That's not required. So FYI your post is misinformation.

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Re: stephen e (# 1660)

Please understand everyone that "unfair" is irrelevant to all of these issues. Saying that something we have no contract, entitlement or Constitutional right protecting, is basically heard by the FDA as whiney entitlement. Unfair? Nobody owes us or guaranteed us an uninterrupted supply of amphetamines, and definitely not in the special texture and formula we prefer. Wake up! "Fairness" isn't a powerful argument to advocate for more equitable distribution and greater quality control. "It's so fraudulent" or "it's so medically negligent." Etc.

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Re: Ken (# 1649)

I’d also like to see a link confirming 40mg max for ADHD. I’ve been on adderall for 15 years. Started at 40mg, increased to 60 mgs. I’ve been prescribed 80 mgs for over 5 years now without a problem. 2 x30 IR and 1 x 20IR. EVERYONE is different and most definitely will build up a tolerance after years of the same medication.

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Re: Rcma (# 1665)

Well said. No one said life is fair.

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Re: Rcma (# 1666)

i was just trying to share my personal experience of the recent batches for the forum... people are focusing too much on my use of the word "unfair". i get that technically no one "owes" us patients anything.

many people have shared similar experiences that the new batches of teva and sandoz aren't what they used to be (the most preferred generics) and i was adding to that.

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Re: Rcma (# 1666)

Why don't you get lost? There is absolutely no problem regarding benzodiazepines or anti-psychotic meds as far as I know. I know there are lots of Szasz's fans out there and that Americans love denying science but this being a psychiatric medication should be kept in mind since it impares and disrupts the lives of a big number of people. It's absolutely shameful for a this country to have a drug on backorder for over a year already. Either have it at a fairly consistent basis or ban it outright but don't have patients bending over backwards over trying to get it.

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Also, I love how seeking and complaining about getting an FDA approved medication after months and months of constant backorder - let alone the fact that medication prices have remained uncapped for years - to go back to work and stability have become 'entitlement'. Good thing bullets are plentiful since the U.S. has it's priorities straight.

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Yes off and on I found the 20 mg at Costco but now they too are out of it, I started taking less so I'd have a few more but am considering weaning off it all together it creates more anxiety and mental instability worrying about it.

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What's the point of having each message on this site being checked by a moderator if posts entirely irrelevant to the topic are being allowed?

ADD patients get enough grief from the media and judgmental Jerks for us... can't we just keep this topic related to the shortage and not opinions on Adderall in general?

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Re: Bill (# 1670)

There have been shortages of antibiotics, insulin and many other drugs. Grant you, the DEA does not set yearly quotes on other drugs like they do Schedule II drugs. But there are still shortages. A drug being used to treat psychiatric conditions does not make it more important than other drugs. In some ways, psychiatric drug are less important than antibiotics, insulin, etc.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1674)

I also take Adderall for narcolepsy and hypersomnia. These are not psychiatric conditions day did a spinal tap on me to show that I had narcolepsy so I don’t know where you get the idea that’s a psychiatric problem. I have not been awake for more than two or three hours a day for the past week and a half because of this shortage. I missed my birthday I got fired from my job and my edema
From sleeping so much has given me heart complications. It’s not up to you to judge what medication is more important than another. I also take Synthroid and Cidermill in a diuretic and high blood pressure medication but none of those are serious as not be able to find Adderall. Also, if this is just a TiVo problem, then how come I can’t get my generic? And that thing about the DEA saying only a certain amount a year is OK well last time I checked it was the beginning of January, so that doesn’t fly either. Please think of what you type before you type. You have never experienced narcolepsy, and I doubt you’ve ever had real fatigue which would you like to say, when compared to being just very tired, is the difference between us, slight breeze, and a hurricane. It’s like having been administered twilight and trying to work and drive and live. Not fun

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Re: stephen e (# 1660)

After almost 4 months with nothing, ill take the garbage.
Teva, Sandoz, the blue stuff Heisenberg cooks up in an RV outside the desert. Already cut back to nothing and on the verge of losing my life savings. Garbage would be a welcome change lol

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1674)

There's a huge difference in a shortage that cannot be helped and the DEA intentionally creating a shortage... I'm not sure why this would even need to be explained.

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Re: seank (# 1676)

Have you tried L-Tyrosine. Not joking. And, actually, Wellbutrin also also raises dopamine in the PF cortex. I'm not suggesting any of these. I'm not a doctor and you didn't ask 4 advice :). Just passing along that there actually ARE things besides Adderall that have sympathomimetic effects and act as dopamine agonists.

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Re: tim (# 1673)

Tim, you're judging people for judging and proposing rules on moderation? You've got your opinions about how people should and shouldn't express their beliefs, knowledge, experience, opinions? I Wouldn't ordinarily say this here, but your posts actually come off, to me, the most judgmental and cranky. The old saying rarely fails "if it bugs me I've got it.". Truthfully, I wish you happiness and satisfaction... and..
the people on this forum aren't your problem. We don't have to read any this. It's our choice. Censorship isn't what moderators do. Good luck.

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Re: Bill (# 1670)

Then say it's unjust, dangerous, uncaring, irresponsible, medically negligent, biased, ignorant etc. There are 1000s of ways to say it. In MY opinion (which I actually AM entitled to, with Constitutional protections), saying it's "unfair" seems irrelevant. That's my opinion and allowed to express it. Just like you're allowed to tell me to get lost.
Good luck -- I hope you get your meds and find happiness in everything that is. Because what is, is.

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