What Not To Say During Suboxone Appt (Page 8)
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My boyfriend has battled with heroin addiction for at least 2 years now. He was prescribed to before, but couldn't afford the maintenance program and ended up banging heroin again. He went back to his doctor to get a script for suboxone again last week, and the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to him. I found another dr who can prescribe suboxone nearby, and want to make sure he gets a script because he will die if he doesn't quit using. Does anyone know any reasons why a dr wouldn't prescribe suboxone?
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I have been on oxycodone for aprox. 3 ,4 years now. I cant take it anymore..i hate aching when it wears off sleeping my life away! My problem is ive read reviews on all the doctors that prescribe sub. an the patients all say the doctors are al mean bad bedside manors ripped them off money wise..so this has me feeling very hopeless..i mean who wants to go to a mean ignorant doctor when yr allready feeling like crap.people told me if im not happy w the doc just try another one..but the insurance i have allows me two doc. visits a month... hope i can get some good feedback here..ty

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Hi Dani (and anyone else), The threads don't flow in a way that I am following well, but I will do my best. I am a medical doctor who is Board Certified in Addiction Medicine and also have a special license to prescribe buprenorphine. Only doctors are legally allowed to prescribe any compound containing buprenorphine (the active ingredient in Suboxone and Subutex, and they just released a new form called Zubsolv). The reason that a doctor will not prescribe Subutex, is because the FDA and DEA limit doctors to prescribing one of the types of burprenorphine that also contain Naloxone. Suboxone and Zubsolv contain this Naloxone (as well as the active ingredient buprenorphine). When buprenorphine is by itself, it is also called Subutex. The DEA and FDA do allow for doctors to prescribe Subutex/just buprenorphine in VERY SPECIAL circumstances only.
Dani, if you have any special questions I will do my best to answer. (Please note that the comments and information contained within my posts do not imply direct medical advice nor is it an attempt to establish a doctor-to-patient relationship.)

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Hi....I will pray for you....me too...same situation as far as being afraid to even ask for help because of my daughter

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Tell em the s***. That's the whole point is to be honest. You fly over a thousand miles to get suboxen. Lol that's the stupidest s*** I've ever heard.

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Only a licensed therapist can prescribe subs. I was taking 4 to 6 norco a day from my Dr, so when I got dope sick my first time I went to the er because I didn't know what was happening to me. They just shot me up with daludin and gave me a Rx for more norco???? You have to go to a methadone/sub Dr.

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Dear Alice....You're stronger then you think....Life has it's ups and downs but only you can make the choose not to let it rule your life....I myself have had more then my share of bad nut my children made me the strongest I have even been....I know that God is looking down on you and guiding you to do what will help.... He will give you all that you need....He will give you the strength to get through your pain so that you are able to find a doctor that will help then the rest will follow....I know there are times when you feel alone and you don't think you can take one more step....Your not God is with you and will pick you up and hold you till your able to pick yourself up .....and remember he had to have seen something amazing in you because he gave you two beautiful children to love and to love you....God Bless You .....I believe you can do anything you put your mind to

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not sure who you're talking to, Dani..feel free to send a reply to me if you directed it at me.

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Hello. My name is Dani. I am in need of advice an saw your comment. Would you mind helping me with some advice? Thank you very much! I'm sorry to bug just don't really know who to ask

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Hello. My name is Dani. I am in need of advice an saw your comment. If you are really a doctor would you mind helping ne with some advice? Thank you very much!

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I have just found out my partner is using,he hid it from me for a year.He told me he hasnt injected whilst with me but abuses pills,oxy's serrapax,whatever he can cocktail for that feeling.I have no idea about these drugs,i was addicted to ice for two years and then speed for 4 years,and have been clean for 18 months.I have no idea what to expect,i told him i would help him and stand by him as he agreed to do the subutex programme,the doc give him other pills to see him through till he starts the programme.I cant stand to even look at him while he is off his face,but i do love him and want to help,it just frustrates me and sometimes i get really angry at him for lieing to me in the first place.Please can someone explain the torment?, i've been told to run a mile from this man,knowing my own battle with addictions,this would be the end for me.

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You might feel nobody cares about you but I do and hope you're getting your life together. I'm sorry this is so long after your post. I just read it for the first time today. You can do this and maybe a year after your post you have. I hope so. You deserve it and if you're in a relationship that is encouraging you to continue this behavour stop it now. Walk out and do whatever necessary to get your life in order. If you need someone to talk with I'm here for you.
Take care

John

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To JM Alabama or anyone else really educated (or preferably with personal experience) on suboxone: Just to quickly give you background. I was put on oxy's and other strong pain meds 12 years ago, and was told I'd "feel crappy for a few days when I was without them" - the understatement of the century! Anyway, about 6 years ago I got put on methadone plus Dilaudid for the pain because I found that with methadone I could take it really for the pain, and not just to feel normal and keep away the withdrawal. No more waking up in the middle of the night in the sweats if I happened to sleep an hour too long, feeling like I wanted to die. It totally has a ceiling effect for me; I can take more on days when I'm hurting and less on days when I'm not and feel no different. I feel normal on it and I'm not on a maintenance program so I don't have to go anywhere everyday. Problem is, I still feel trapped, cuz I know if I don't have it how I will feel, and I just really want to try and get off of everything altogether and evaluate the situation fresh. I was interested in trying suboxone, but on reading some posts that the withdrawal is as bad as anything else, I'm rethinking even trying it and just sticking with my current medical program. BTW, please, please be realistic with the withdrawal symptoms of this drug...I'm not trying to give a sob story but I know from past experience I cannot make it thru withdrawal. My sanity can't take it at this point and my daughter already only has one parent because her father/my husband committed suicide I believe in part to withdrawal, and I will be in the same place if I make the wrong move; I just know it. Also, how is suboxone for pain? Am I just trading one vice for another or can I really get clean with this suboxone...not maintained on something - clean? Suggestions/advice? Good luck to everyone out there, no matter what your situation or why you're using <3.

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You do realize many people TRUST their doctors to get them free of legitimate pain and don't realize the side effects of coming off these drugs, such as withdrawal, until it's too late, right?! Even still you're completely off base, but that's just one example where your "choice" point seems pretty moot to me. Why don't you make a "choice" to educate your mind and check your ugly, judgmental VERBAL DIARRHEA (as JM ALABAMA so rightfully called it) at the door.

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Hang in there sweetie. You CAN do this. I have been on every opiate avail to me for 15 years....everyday! I found a suboxone doctor a month ago and have been off all of the other s*** ever since. Not saying that I haven't tried to quit before, multiple times, but this time I am truly 100% ready to rid this monkey from my back. I have a totally different mind set about quitting. This time I want to, not just trying to just to shut up the people from b****ing at me. If you are seriously ready to drop that f***ing monster, find a suboxone doctor , pay the money, and get your sub script. It saved my life.

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Where did u find a Doc who prescribes subutex? I'm in Virginia and need to find a provider who will. They all prefer SubOxone.

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You should try...suboxone doesn't act the same way as pain meds...but works great for pain. and you don't have to take overdose amounts to achieve that.

I've been on the same dose for around 5 years now. I never go up, or down. Works the same now as it did on day 1.

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I have been on pain meds for 6 years. There are not enough pills to help the pain. My doctor suggested suboxone for pain - I am scared. I am on morphine now and never have enough for the month

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If you were truly an addict, and saying someone did something stupid...then that just doesn't make sense now, does it? Anyone who will let a pill control them doesn't have much room to make assumptions about others and their addictions...so making that statement is quite unnecessary. We all did something stupid if we need to be on Suboxone...and just because someone isn't to a point to be serious yet doesn't mean they are any less deserving than the ones who are...we're talking about something that kills hundreds of people DAILY....not smoking a cigarette or an addiction to chocolate. Have some empathy..or quite frankly, use some common sense about telling others how they've done something stupid.

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I'm on 2 8mg suboxone tabs per day. If you are an addict to opioids and need help, you can easily get suboxone. Tell the doc about how you became addicted and how much your dose is. If u don't be honest, you will not be prescribed the proper amount. The doc is required to make you seek counseling and will give u drug test. You can't have weed or anything other than suboxone in your system or you will be cut off. Your boyfriend probably did something stupid. He probably loves the heroin too much to commit to a program to get better.

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To reach a doctor who understands because he was addicted really bad, go to subdoctors.net

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