What Not To Say During Suboxone Appt (Page 5)
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My boyfriend has battled with heroin addiction for at least 2 years now. He was prescribed to before, but couldn't afford the maintenance program and ended up banging heroin again. He went back to his doctor to get a script for suboxone again last week, and the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to him. I found another dr who can prescribe suboxone nearby, and want to make sure he gets a script because he will die if he doesn't quit using. Does anyone know any reasons why a dr wouldn't prescribe suboxone? Thanks.

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I was on Oxycontin for 10 years legally prescribed by my Primary Care Doctor. I was started on 10mg 2x day to 80mg 3x day + percoset for break thru pain. I have had 5 spinal surgeries and other surgeries and live with chronic pain. I never went looking for drugs or doctor shopped. With the doses I was taking I was still in pain and isolated myself from family and friends. I would be in pain and run out early. I would by other narcotics from "friends." After a suicide attempt and a non-concented stay in the cracker factory. I started on Suboxone. It was the best thing I ever did! I found a compassionate doctor and told him THE TRUTH! The beginning was like jumping thru hoops. No meds for 24 hours. I went to his office for the 1st dose. Drug test 1st. Went back in a week. Then in another week. Then 2 week appointment. I got called in after 1 week for surprise drug test. Saw following week. Then every 2 weeks for 2 months. Drug test every time I walk thru the door. Now I see him every month. I am 80% pain free compared to 30-40% on Oxycontin. I can't believe how much of my life I was missing! I am doing so much more. The people who see me now comment how "high" I always was. I never felt high! I felt PAIN!!! Yeah, I still need my wheelchair for long distances, walk with a cane and still have pain. Pain that at time makes me cry. But, I have a much happier LIFE. I HAVE A LIFE! It is so worth it. For me, my spouse + kids. BE HONEST!!! WHEN ON OPIATES YOUR FEELINGS ARE NUMB! I HAVE CRIED HYSTERICALLY IN HIS OFFICE. HE SAID THAT SHOWED HIM...I WAS DOING BETTER. Most doctors want proof you are seeing a therapist.

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Hi I have been on hydrocodone for a year and now since its been 90 days since my back surgery my surgeon is kicking me off of them. My surgeon wrote me a last script and gave me a weaning schedule but I'm still going through bad withdraws so I have an appt. tomorrow with a nurse practitioner in his office...what do you think they'll do...put me on another weaning script or on something like suboxone?

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Alice,

I hope you found the strength to get away from that man that got you mixed up with that stuff and got your daughter in a safe place now.

Drugs are not the answer...I have been prescribed Suboxone for pain management after suffering two auto accidents that herniated my discs, broke my tailbone, gave me bone spurs and degenerative disc disease. I got off it twice and both time the pain in my cervical spine was so intense I got back on it. I had one cervical surgery, but I don't want to have them cut me open again, so I take this medication to mask the pain. I thank God that I have never been an addict, smoked or drank, and I am scared to death to even smoke cannabis.

Take care of yourself and get the help you need - stay away from those things that numb your body and mind - seek God and prayer and His will for your life! When we do the right thing life seems so much better because God is with us and He loves us and wants us to be blessed. Trust in God!

I have and will continue to pray for your recovery and safety!!

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If a true opinion is to be given, it should come from multiple sources: I recommend an education in the field of addiction ONLY when combined with YEARS of experience with HUNDREDS of people affected by addiction. To share such strong opinions from less than this WILL HURT OTHER PEOPLE who are trying to get well.

Anyone with the experience I mention will agree that no medication or drug is the best way to be "clean". However, suboxone and other buprenorphine containing medications are light years better than methadone in the treatment of opiate dependency. I have the credentials to support this statement. Avoid methadone if at all possible, avoid suboxone if you can....lastly, don't try and be in recovery without some help from other people WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Peace.

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I myself once was a dope addict. I know have switched to opiates. From what I know heroin addiction would be treated with methadone and suboxone is used to treat opiate addiction. Has he tried methadone or know? this would be his best option for sure!! So that is where I would start! The are many clinics some good some not so good... He needs to find the write one for him! Where he will feel comfortable talking..... not the so called clinics that depreciate your value as a person! I wish him all the luck in the world but remember if he is not ready it will not work! He needs his will to live and the want for a better life Good luck in the best way! LauraAnne

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WANT TO TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR "GREAT SUB FROM THE OTHER SIDE. I HAD A DRUG PROBLEM LIKE YOU ALL AND GOT CLEAN IN 1988 AND STAYED CLEAN, SUB IS HEROIN ON STEROIDS AND IT MAKES A PERSON NUMB, THEIR EMOTIONS TOO. MY FAMILY WAS RIPPED APART BECAUSE OF THE GREAT SUB MY SON AN ADDICT ON AND OFF WHO SHOT ANYTHING TO GET HIS OPIATE HIGH JUST ROBBED ME. NEVER DID HE DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND ITS NOT AN ADDICTION HE IS ON SUBS FOR 3 YEARS NOW, WHERE THE HELL IS THE CUT OFF ON THIS LEGAL HEROIN? AT LEAST WITH METHADONE I WAS ON IT DOESN'T STOP YOUR FEELINGS WELL THIS DOES THAT'S WHY IT WORKS IT STOPS YOU FROM FEELING ANY F==N THING INCLUDING THE LOVE YOU HAD FOR YOUR FAMILY FOR 40 YEARS. NO JOKE THIS IS A SERIOUS DRUG AND THE DEA HAD BETTER TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT WHAT IT REALLY DOES. IT DOES NOT RELIEVE PAIN IT TAKES ALL FEELINGS OF ANY SORT AWAY THAT'S WHATS WORKING IN ALL OF YOU, HAVE YOU NOTICED A CHANGED IN YOUR FAMILY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU? MAYBE SOME DON'T HAVE THIS REACTION BUT I KNOW MANY THAT DO AND IN THAT CASE GOOD OLD METHADONE IF YOUR GONNA CONTINUE TO USE IS THE ANSWER. YOUR NOT CLEAN YOU ARE SUBSTITUTING ONE FOR THE OTHER YOU STILL JUNKIES ON LEGAL PRESCRIPTIONS RIPPING YOUR FAMILIES APART AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE GO TO SOME NARANON MEETINGS YOU WILL HEAR IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM MOTHERS, FATHERS, HUSBANDS WIVES AND CHILDREN, YOU BECOME ZOMBIES TO THIS CRAP AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS CRAP. YOU WILL FIND OUT WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY BURNT FROM IT AND UNABLE TO HAVE SEX CAUSE THAT IS A FEELING THAT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAVE TOO. SOME ADVISE GET CLEAN THE RIGHT WAY, 1/9/88 IF I COULD DO IT SO CAN YOU.

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I hope everything worked out for you guys.

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Damn Shawn really? If olboy doesn't make it maybe you'll have a nice life? Your game is off on so many levels.

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Can you please get in touch with me. {edited for privacy}. please, i really wana talk to you. im going threw the same thing as you :/

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I know this post is old, but on the off chance that you may read it again, here goes. I was where you are. I was abused as a child as well, and cps knew and interviewed me . 10 yrs later, they interviewed me again and asked about the pattern. I have to muster up those crappy thoughts all over again and remember once again how he humiliated me. Seems that there is another little girl that was as old as I was when it started with me, and she is behaving in the same manner as I did, using the same mannerisms and the same sentences as he did with me. But...he still runs free and always will. I used that abuse for many years. I used it when it was to my benefit and also when I felt like beating up on myself. It's time to stop. Get the correct counseling and move it forward. DO NOT TREAT YOUR CHILDREN AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE VICTIMIZED IN THEIR LIFETIME. Don't let what happened to you affect their lives any more than you are now. Try the suboxone. I did and it took me a minute, and some back peddling once or twice, but I finally got it. When the drugs stopped, my thoughts cleared up and my life went forward. I could care for myself and mychildren the correct way. I didn't look at each person as if they were about to hurt me or mine. You need to change your mind set. I'm hoping this helps you. Thank you. You can write to me anytime if you need to talk.

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Why listen to someone who can't spell Xanax correctly?

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So in order to be an addict, you must be prescribed an opiate and never have gotten any on the street? That makes absolutely no sense....there wouldn't be a black market for pills, nor would heroin be such a popular option amongst opiate addicts if this were true. Truth is you don't need to be prescribed an opiate to get Suboxone, you just need to be serious about cleaning up your life and committed to recovering from addiction and the lifestyle.

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Yea that works, if ur actually prescribed oxys... Otherwise the docs gonna find out u jus lied to them n not ever give u s***

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Hi Mike, A lot of people use subs to get by when they can,t get there DOC for whatever reason although your case is a little different seeing how you been on subs alone for awhile.
You could tell the sub dr. the truth or you could say you started taking subs about a week ago and you can,t get anymore and you don,t want to go back to your DOC. Good luck.

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Lots of good info here.

A bit different of a question- i've been off the hard stuff for a year and on suboxone from the street. One year this week. Sub supply is low and i may run out. I want to stay clean but afraid stopping the sub suddenly will make me sick. If i go to a sub doc what should i say to him? I want to have a real script and not have to worry month to month about where i'll get the subs. Thanks!!

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So very, very, true! I'm a lifelong drug addict and a heroin junkie going on 5 years now. I refuse to say what I have is a disease. Cancer, AIDS etc are diseases - no one chooses a disease it's a traumatic thing that's thrust upon them. I CHOSE to swallow that pill, snort that line, stick that needle in my vein for a high. Also, after over 4 decades of research there's no evidence of a gene or chemical make-up for addiction - IT IS NOT A DISEASE! I refuse to be told I've a disease when I know it's BS. Now does that mean I don't deserve help to become the human-being I know I can be, of course not, I'm still a sentient being, with hopes, love and things I can contribute. I've just made horrible choices to avoid emotional pain at all costs and I've decided to deal with my reality with nullification. I'm trying so hard to get suboxone - I want so badly to get off this nightmare carousel. In that sense it has become "disease" like, for I need medication to get my brain back to "normal". Sorryy, to rant and ramble, yet whenever the opportunity presents itself I am compelled to quell this nonsense about addiction being a disease.

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Hi my name is bob I been snifing h 1yr 6m would I be eligible for suboxon

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I was addicted to opiates and xanex for a couple years and went to the first of 2 Dr's and was prescribed subs, and xanex, he new I had issues with the xanex but he would just express that I needed to be careful with it. After about 2 years of taking it, some problems came up with my husband, he never liked the idea of me taking either one of them but it had always helped me to be on subs, so after a little while, I had caused some problems because of the xanex my husband called my dr and told him I had taken all the xanex, which were 90 pills in a couple days.. which was not true, at that time my husband had not wanted me on anything at all, but I was getting them behind his back, again the subs helped me stay off opiates. So I had them hid and my husband found them and flushed them. I called my dr and told him about this but he didn't believe me I guess, and told me he wouldn't see me anymore. I think maybe he didn't want to deal with my drama anymore, I made the rest of the subs last me and after a couple months I was out. I then went to another Dr paid $200 for the initial visit, and he saw what had happened with my last Dr. I guess that meant I was on the black list, not sure how that works but he still helped me. I also told him I do not want any anxiety meds, I just know that those are worse than the benefit of helping me, I just don't do good with them, I get too careless. He gave me a prescription for the non generic pills which were way exspensive so I asked him to call me in the generic ones, I made that prescription last me a couple months then ran out, I couldn't afford to go back to him because I was on a membership program and was supposed to be paying $100 every month whether or not I went to see him, I hadn't seen him for 4 months and now I have received a bill for $450 I guess before I can go back to see him.. so I went back to the other pharmacy that I took the more expensive prescription to do it was a different pharmacy and got the rest of them, I did what I had to do to avoid dying from withdrawals.. I am now very very close to running out of them and I am scared to death of getting sick, I'm not ready to stop, I have tried to calculate what I have left to ween down but I'm hoping to find another Dr to go to I cannot afford to go back to the 2nd Dr dont even know If he would help me again, I don't want it to appear as if I'm Dr shopping, I just need to find the right help.. I have thought about talking to the 1st Dr he was always really good to me but after what happened and him black listing me I don't know what to think. I need one that will help me maintain and stay on them even though I have been prescribed them before and had these issues. I want to be honest but have heard that I should tell them I have relapsed, I don't want them to think that subs are not working, cause they do more than anything. I just need to find a Dr that will work with my life and what to tell him about what had happened and what's going on now, I've been clean from opiates and xanex for 1 year when one relapse 7 months ago and the subs have helped me stay happy, I have No anxiety or depression, I can hold a job and take care of what I need to, I wish my husband would be more positive about setting how this had helped Mr, but that's another story.?? Thank You for any advice !

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I'm having a really hard time, hoping someone can help me. I'm going in for my suboxone appointment within one or two weeks. I was on methadone for three weeks, but ended up going out of town and didn't get back within the time period allowed. So now I've been off it for about four weeks and have been really sick. I've taken 3 valium and my adderal. Both are prescribed. My question is do I need to detox that out before my appointment? I was gonna quit taking the adderal if that cant be taken with it. And I'm out of my valium now anyway. Imam just worworried that if besides opiates, those meds showing up that he won't give it to me... I am very sick and just want to be back into a treatment because my depression is so bad I can't get out of bed. Anyones thoughts very appreciated

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It helped me stay clean for 2 years... And didn't even take as much as I was prescribed... Then a bad influence came into my life and I relapsed. I hadn't seen any meds in 2 yrs until he put a whole bottle of roxy 15s in the cabinet and even after being clean that long I didn't have the willpower when it was in my face... Once ur an addict u r for the rest of ur life.. But it's ur choice if u want to b a junkie or recovering addict but he has to b READY to stop or it won't work at all he will b selling the subs to get other stuff... I have been back clean for a very short while and would love to go back on it but I take 3 mil of Xanax a day, and have seizures if I don't have them and in wv they stopped prescribing them together.... Hoped this helped some it's very important that u know he's ready and monitor the subs if u have to... It's very expensive if u don't have ins. I was paying $800 a month between the doctor appts every week and scripts... Good luck!!!!!

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