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My doctor has had me on 1 mg xanax 4 times per day for 15 yrs now and oxycodone 30 mg 4 times a day. I was supposed to see him last Thursday to get my refills but when I called to make the appointment I was told that he quit indefinitely so now I'm going cold turkey without anything...my pharmacist faxed my refill orders several times last week & they told me they couldn't find my medical chart....1st time in 15 yrs my chart got lost & my refills for xanax were never called in to my pharmacy... Can he legally quit on me without informing me here in Arkansas?

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You also need a thorough psychiatric workup performed by a couple of competent Board-certified shrinks who have been around the block too long to be scammed, Whacked how you started? You became adducted to Xanax Period. End of story.

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Morning Joey there is one such statement that any patient evaluated by a psychiatrist is asked especially if they are visiting due to extreme anxiety.
1. Typically a person in therapy complains of chest pain, sweats and racing heartbeat.
2. If not under medication management a reputable therapist will refer to a psychiatrist and therefore, the patient is asked questions FIRST.

Do you have any addiction history? ETOH? (alcohol abuse)
Street drugs?

Joey is absolutely on the mark--if you answer yes to any of these and are having panic attacks which may or may not be evident from assessment you will not be prescribed Xanax.

I had stated the same thing myself for Stace's post jumps--I saw it on another area of forum and it said 2012 then got blasted by several that it was recent.

Perhaps there are two of the same name do not know but I concur with Dr. J's assessment.

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My bro's a cardiologist. I have had open-heart surgery. I ask everybody, even my cat, about chest pain!!

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I didn't pick up your email until about 7 pm tonight anti was date stamped around 2:30 PM EST

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Joey, just read your story. Unbelievable it sounds like anesthetic shock, and an adverse reaction. I believe all things are relative to God and His power. I've died two times and crossed over. The first time when the next day comes there are three religious leaders brought to my room. I sure did not call them.

I find after they heard my story (who called them) that I had crossed over. What I realize today is when we return from death we "remember we died" and further people do not realize how short our life on earth is. Because before I died that first night my entire life went before me every action, minute second probably in less than 20 seconds then boom I was gone.

Those I loved were there to greet me. I was so happy to see my father.

Why would we in such supreme and perfect love and resolve think we were dead (we would not) unless we returned to this.

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Don't listen to these two trolls and yes that's what they are I've seen them around.Just take the time to read what they say the truth I've heard is that he has or at least should have one.that self proclaimed doctor Joey what a laugh you and your buddy p450 should really get a room a private one..so you could go troll your selves.And sure that angel who had the original question well do just fine. I know she must be a angel because demons always go after the real heaven with sent...AMEN.....JESUS..

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Great name unfortunately not true.

Where did you see either one of us? Nowhere I personally base this name on a P450 test given me due to testing that shows my DNA profile as an ultra rapid metabolizer and clearly I am supporting the pain clients who ask for help and your name what is that name?

Sound familiar and posting from a cell phone.

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I wasn't aware God had resigned and left you his job. Addiction is addiction and how dare you invoke the name of Satan, unless you're calling out to your Master. You're a narcissistic, twisted possibly psychotic fundie who wouldn't recognize the meaning of a Biblical verse that wasn't spoon fed to him in words of one syllable or less, P450 has impressive credentials, as do I... but why bother casting pearls before swine? Tell me how you would treat Xanax addiction? The same Jesus Christ  — and when YOU use His Holy Name, it's blasphemy — created physicians and nurses and people with real intelligence. He doesn't cure dangerous addictions personally — I this he stopped doing flashy miracles about 2,000 years ago myself, but He uses us as tools to do so. My only malpractice is that I type too quickly and I try not to, because I know with drug names and med terminology, this can cause confusion, but not as much as an i****'s saying, "Just keep taking Xanax; you'll be fine." You wouldn't know an angel join Roma Downey bit you in the ankle. And where is your proof that we are on the side of the Adversary? You have none and, as I've read in many versions of the Scripture, "Satan is the father of lies" and specializes in confusion, You seem to fit more on HIS side of the Battle than we do, WE didn't "go after her," you jerk; we tried to point out that she needed help to detox from Xanax and then other medical assistance. We both know how to withdraw pts from benzos. We've done it often enough, Addiction is a DISORDER (NOT A DISEASE - !@ STEP CULT BS IS JUST THAT and they have no followup at all...ever...for NA, AA, CA...how very convenient!) that is characterized by recidivism, denial and self-deception. No competent physician writes for Xanax for teens. It's been too widely abused for years and P450 and I both have had patients prescribed some benozodiazepine, an ADD/AHDHD or other psych drug and didn't like the way it made him feel and called one of us. (I'm pretty sure P450 has the Prescriptive Privilege which means anything I can write for, she can, too.) Usual outcome is to throw out the offending pills, discuss options and write for something else. If you don't WANT pills you don't have to take them...and certainly not for years.

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There are LOTS of serious "adverse fetch" from drug withdrawal, including seizures and death, stroke, HBP, etc.

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Joey oh no Ketamine they use that in vet anesthesia on animals. Kids are bumping it for that purpose to trip out like LSD. Why would they use that on a human?

I hope you have filed malpractice on the facility, the anesthesiologist and all other parties who likely had you in four point restraints, and otherwise sedated when that stuff drove your mind completely blotto WOW!

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TO THE "ONE" WHO PUT THE BULLIES N THEIR PLACE, THANK U!!!! ITS SAD TO SEE JERK OFFS & AS U SAID "SELF PROCLAIMED DOCTORS" WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.....LOVE TO ACT LIKE THEY KNOW MY WHOLE LIFE HISTORY......I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR YOU TO JUMP IN AND DEFEND ME THE WAY YOU DID!!! KNOW THIS, NOT ONLY R U THE "ONE" WHO PUT THEM TWO HYPOCRITICAL LIARS N THEIR PLACE AND TO CALL THEM OUT LIKE YOU DID BUT U ALSO R "THE ONE" WHO HELPED ME OUT WHEN I WAS ALONE & I THINK YOU R THE ANGEL FOR LITERALLY COMING IN ON THIS RIGHT ON TIME AND FOR THAT I AM AND WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL!! I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS DAY THANK U SO MUCH & GOD BLESS YOU .....outta the dark, now I am n the light....what a wonderful person u r

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Stace you should read the post from the man who was jailed.

He speaks the truth, and recognizes exactly what Dr.J. said addiction is a serious and VALID disease, and unfortunately if you were put on Xanax as a teenager with no proper mental diagnosis and left on that dosage (just under a BAR) for all those years you at the least are tolerant and can suffer seizures and death going off COLD, but in your case you mentioned nothing other then a car accident.

What did the MVA give you to need that level of opioids and anxiety medication for all those years?

Most posters here have valid diagnoses in their search for help.

I find your last post hysterical and insulting to a very kind physician I do not believe anyone here deserves his excellent words at this time.

The poster you had post on your demise is just as sad. I am sure I could get you an excellent psychiatric referral if you really have the need (diagnoses) for that medication.

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The One takes one to protect one I'd be glad to get you a psychiatric referral as well.

Don't foster someone who is seeking opioids for the wrong reason there is difficulty enough in those who need them for intractable pain then people searching the net for a fix.

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I've prescribed it more for DDxs 1, 2 and 3 than 4, but I've had a few puts shared with PM doc who were...well---apprehensive about writing for Xanax. Those are the proper indications, for sure, but most of us prescribe some short-term for plain old anxiety. For me, short term is 10-14 days of tx; no refills and further therapy.

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Well Monday I went to my doc and in April was on 300 mg MS Contin, 10/325perc qid, 350mg soma qid plus my remicaid infusions of remicaid 900 mcg, and 200 mg imuran for Ankylosing Spondilitis, and be cause the scared docs locally weR so scared of me as I had so many medical problems they added 80 mg prednisone a day and it caused arterial necrosis causing no blood flow to my hip. It took the two years to figure that out an the head of my femur totally dissolved so I was walkingb with a cane of course on just my muscles, ligaments etc . I could see it narrowing on all the exrays but they said oh it's just ur arthritis, so for two years I lay in bed only able to lay in one position until finally I had to go life flight to emergency hip replacement. Omg these docs up north at rude, stupid and I'm pissed so now I'm highly addicted to high doses of orpine, Percs, diladid, etc. That god I got a good local doc the tapered me from 400 mg morphine plus down to only 37 mcg fentanyl patches every two days and BT PERCS AND STILL SOMA, but I feel so much better . I have good days and bd days but mostly just medium days. That doc that had me on such high doses of narcotics just cut me off with 12 days notice. In the last. Six months he even raised my pets for BT pain SO IS THAT LEGAL?

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Kipper, , yes it is legal. You were informed that the meds could be addicting and you agreed to take them. FDA Guidelines state 120 mg Morphine/ Morphine Equivalent Daily but that is not law only a guideline although few drs don't go by it now.

You didn't mention why the Dr stopped prescribing these meds for.you but it is up to the Dr to continue or stop prescribing. If you broke a pain contract, you were informed of the things that would leave you without pain meds and you agreed to them. You are very fortunate that you found a Dr to keep you on the doses you were on and decrease them slowly.

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Kipper excellent I'm glad with AS you are in serious pain and it appears you also have RA.

What state are you in? I need a physician also specialized due to my being an ultra rapid opioid metabolizer.

My normal was 80 of the 100's and 80 of the 75's brand.

Liquid Oxycodone no Tylenol the 500 mg/5 ml solution.

I'm happy for you.

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Kipper I did want to explain something about pain contracts. Depending on what state you are in they vary but it is a contract. That contract should NEVER state that opioids are addicting--physicians are not supposed to prescribe opioids for addicts and being an addict is a life threatening diagnosis generally handled by a psychiatrist.

The contract should advise that you become physically tolerant which is what happens NORMALLY when one has chronic pain and is treated.

For a licensed physician or nurse to EVER infer a legitimate pain patient is an addict is medical malpractice, and if this has happened to you then you can sue. It has been in years past a common practice in ER's who see many addicts to infer this and it is wrong.

Physically withdrawal makes inexperienced people who suddenly go off medication for various reasons like an addict but instead make sure you realize that you have these side effects due to medications that allow you to have some quality of life in my case keep me alive as I've progressed to Central Pain Syndrome. Don't sign a contract stating you are becoming an addict ever. Cross through that term for that puts you in another category and could prevent treatment in the future for your legitimate pain.

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It is not malpractice for a Dr to write in a pain contract that you may be prescribed meds that you can become addicted to. You also can't sue if a Dr puts it in a pain contract or tells you face to face. As a matter of fact some that have become addicted or their families if the patient's deceased, have sued because they say they weren't informed that the meds they were given could be addicting and became addicted to them.

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DrJoey, surely you don't think that the nurse lost her license because of what she called your private patient
You firing her isn't the same as her losing her nursing license.

The AAFP has a pain contract that lists addiction as a possible effect. Washington University Pain Management Center has several sample contracts, Opioid Agreement Sample 1 lists addiction as a possibility. You can put Opioid Agreement Forms in Google and read these and others.

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