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Regarding KVK Tech oxycodone 30mg / K-9...Garbage! I have serious pain from two separate problems. Bottom line is Walgreens switched from Activis to KVK recently and I noticed the difference within one day, pain waking me more than usual and early withdrawal sensations. I should add that I don't misuse or abuse, all I want is pain relief. I'm fed up with fighting every step of the way to manage my pain (resulting from injuries sustained as a firefighter/medic and a connective tissue disease) Thanks to the war on drugs and so many people overdosing, the government has the doctors and pharmacies all running scared, etc.. So people who are legit and truly suffering every day are screwed. Seems like they forgot about us. I wish these people AND the addicts/abusers could feel what chronic pain is like.... 24/7! Avoid this KV if you have real pain issues and are prescribed 30 mg oxy.

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Kev in NC, I'm feeling sad about the KVK Tech situation. The problem I had getting a "real" pain reliever today and then I read your post, which at least lets me know that I'm not alone with this problem. I don't know that I have in it me, to fight this much longer. The pain, and all that goes with my conditions, and then in June I added a huge blood clot to deal with also, is really wearing me down. I'm going to try calling all the other independent pharmacies and see if I can find one that doesn't carry the "poison" KVK Tech drugs, if not, I am going to make an appointment with my doctor, and discuss alternative drugs to the oxycodone for breakthrough pain. I have a wonderful ER 20 mg, but really depend heavily on the oxycodone for the breakthrough pain.

All the excuses given about "drug abuse" are nothing but excuses. If the DEA really wanted to shut the abuse down, they would start with the huge pill mills that push pills on the cash office visit only, purchase pills on the spot new patient operations, that DEA themselves feature on the anti-drug programs on TV. I really believe the problem starts at the FDA, with them allowing such a "fudge factor" in medication effectiveness. Lumbar disaster and a few others explained to me about this legal fudge factor, and I find it horrible. This "fudge factor" is even allowed in my heart medication. The nationwide pharmacies know about the problem and probably knew long before most of us. They should have questioned immediately what the problem with KVK products are, with the price of KVK Tech being so much lower. Just a side note, the info I receive monthly on what my insurance company is paying doesn't seem to reflect that huge price savings the pharmacies are getting. Before having insurance, I wasn't saving any out of pocket either when I was sold the inferior KVK product. I approached the problem by placing complaints with the pharmacies, which did no good. FDA doesn't seem to care either. May be complaining to my insurance company is the way to go?

Even if I ask for a different pain med from my doctor, I still don't feel as if I should let this KVK "poison pill" thing drop. It's had too large an impact on my whole life and sounds like it has other people too.

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Kev in NC, Oh boy!! I thought that may be the problem was starting to fix itself with the KVK Tech products, but certainly isn't !!! Live in a rural area in CO where I have been driving 70 miles to purchase a product other than the KVK Tech. Today, one of the independent pharmacies that I did find, and I have been getting "real" oxy there for 4 months, surprise only has the KVK Tech products this month. I had even put on my drug allergies that I can not take KVK Tech products, he's sorry but that's all the supplier would provide this month. KVK Tech products are many times less expensive than the other oxycodone and that's why their corporate office purchased them. He "hopes" to have a different brand by September, because I am most certainly not the only customer with a problem with the KVK Tech products. Over the past couple years I have heard about every excuse in the book as to why KVK Tech products are being forced on me. The only excuse that has rang true is the huge profit margin that is being made on this product. This month I have finally gotten control of the bladder problems that KVK caused and now I am going to be faced with the whole situation all over again. Several months ago, Walgreens and Safeway were finally honest enough to tell me that they would not be getting any other brands, as long as KVK Tech continues to undercut the price as they have done. Walgreens and Safeway also told me that they have already purchased millions of these "poison pills" that nearly every customer complains about.

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I have read all these messages and I thought I was the only person with all these problems. When my pharmacy changed the Oxycodone 30mg I was taking I knew something was different. It didn't stop the pain as it had in the past. My bladder seems to be always full and hurts but when I go only a few drops of urine. The battles of daily hot flashes, cold sweats are brutal. I have talked to my pharmacist and he says that when he puts in an order that they just say what they need and the supplier decides what they actually get. He also told me that manufacturers can only sell a set amount of drugs each year so when they reach that amount the supplier will get another brand. They can however order brand name drugs but of course they cost 10 times the amount of a generic drug. I just got lucky this time and they gave me the bottle they came in and that is how I found they came from KVK-Tech. He had been telling me they were from Mellincot (spelling) which I didn't think was correct since they had changed in appearance. I cant wait until they sell their allotment is sold so I can get back to the pain relief I was used too. The bladder issues, daily headaches, muscle spasms, severe cramps and other added body aches caused by this so called pain reliever compounded by the real problems I have are taking their toll on me. I sure don't need the added "side effects" they have caused. My doctor took me off the pain patch I was on for years with the Oxy that I guess covered the added side effects because of the SCARE from the DEA that he claims has put a limit on what a patient can take in one day! I don't believe that for one second especially coming from a pain management clinic. I have spoken with other doctors at pain management clinics and they all say they haven't been given these new rules. They have asked they get rid of the ones that don't really need the pain meds and you are right, the bad apples are hurting the ones that do need the meds. The streets are full of illegal scripts and they seem to get more than what I can and sell to pay their bills. It is a messed up system for sure. If anyone can confirm that the DEA has told this I would like to hear it from someone other than my doctor who is scared to death of them.

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Hi Cissy, Boy do I ever believe that KVK Tech products are junk. Worse pills I have ever taken. I live in a rural area near a small town, so have little choice in pharmacies. I checked in the nearest larger city and found two pharmacies that sell other products and don't even carry the KVK products. It's 70 miles for me, but worth every mile I drive. Be careful how many of the KVK pills you take, even though they don't help with the pain, you could end up with too much medicine in your system and OD or something. Taking more of them didn't help me anyway, cause they just don't work.

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I agree. 30mg KVK is like taking a baby chewable for a migraine. I live in a small town & found a pharmacy that had different generic but they wouldn't sell to me unless they dropped customers. It makes no sense. I have some days where you take hour by hour. Kvk is junk.

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Hi Bob, I know I don't understand what biologics are? What puts them in a class apart from other medications? As suggested, I've been paying close attention to the warnings about the different medications on the TV ads. Enbrel sounds extremely risky. Are the benefits shown to be significantly greater than the risks? Or is this another, they really don't know as it hasn't been on the market long enough? What's the difference between Enbrel and methotrexate? Big difference or just copy cats of each other?

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Hi Bob, Hope you are through the predisone withdrawal and that whatever side effects are left, leave you shortly. Been fighting a new one for the past several weeks, blood clot, it says DVT? I did a 5 day Enoxaparin 100 mg series of shots, along with 5mg Warfarin. That didn't thin my blood so had to do a 2nd series of Enoxaparin for 7 days. Last INR blood prick showed that my blood got thicker instead of thinner, so my Warfarin mgs were increased. The pain has lighten some the past two days, still can't stand 5 minutes on my leg, but am up and around a little today. This doctor is a partner of my regular doc, and she said that I can expect the pain to ease after my blood thins, and the clot begins to dissolve. As we can't seem to get my blood to thin, I guess I will never dissolve the clot LOL. The ultra sound showed this blood clot starts in a deep vein in my calf and goes all the way past the mid point of my thigh. I always thought something that large was called a blockage, not a clot. Oh well, guess it doesn't matter what they call it.

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I have been out of service for about 10 days due to prednisone withdrawal / adrenal insufficiency and the hell that comes with it. Stupid doctors who insisted " I would need the damn drug for life" have now reversed that and insist that I stop using it ! Not because of bad lab results or any problem other than my NOT starting a biologic (Enbrel) or methotrexate. Depending on when and where a doctor has been educated seems to determine how they feel about tapering that poison (when prescribed they never mentioned the damage it can do to one adrenals .... just risk of infection and lesser side effects) Did I say that I hate doctors ?

The problem is that after a period of time the adrenals stop producing hormones that are vital to life and it can take certain people many months or longer to taper VERY slowly and these two a**holes insist that I can just step down in a few weeks. Mind you this is not opiate withdrawal type symptoms. We are talking everything from blood pressure to just pure weakness and exhaustion. Complete inability to cope with physical or mental stress. Twice now I have nearly landed in the ER and most would have.... I just know the symptoms and managed it myself.

Also I have suddenly developed severe GI problems including bleeding and symptoms of gallstones. Perhaps the point should be that ALL medications are toxic and the fewer you take the better. I truly believe our diets, activity levels and stress play a huge role in many of these problems we face and healing. Chemicals are not the answer, at least not taken for long term in many conditions and they just compound problems.

You mentioned sleeping a lot but poorly. Opana is very sedating for most people and these conditions we have talked about such as fibro are known to cause sleep issues or lack of. My sleep is very fragmented after about 4 hours (pain starts it)even if I take medication the sleep is poor quality. Tell that to a doctor ? Have a sleep study and then comes a prescription for another pill such as Lunesta !

It seems like doctors are either seeing too many patients and can't be bothered beyond your 20 mins and therefore put little thought into your issue OR they have become prescription writing robots ! Most don't even look at the drug interactions they might be causing, I see that all the time and when I question them they shrug their shoulders or get pissed off because they now have to take time and look it up. As for the Enbrel ? This month he completely forgot about it and was pushing methotrexate
GOOD Luck to ya !

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Lumbar disaster, sorry blood clot

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Lumbar disaster, not sissy sauce, its a bloSusod clot

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Lumbar disaster, I ask so many questions at once, I know it's an eye full LOL Did you have any input on the word "moderate" when used with arthritis? As part of my pain management the doctor had planned for me to start with low impact exercise at a gym this month. After the xrays he said for me to stay away from the gym. Pool and walking only. He thought that I may do further damage even with low impact exercise.
I got a Pedometer yesterday, cause I had read that the ideal goal is walking 10,000 steps a day LOL. First I'm going to establish a baseline of where I am now, and then see what I can add without putting myself in bed for days at a time. My right leg has been giving me fits all week and I didn't do anything that could cause it. Can't decide if it's a muscle or what, but the calf is making me miserable. Everyone around me must get tired of me, it seems as if every other week I have something new that's hurting.
Have you found over the years that just as one thing is under control and you learn to live with it, that something else begins hurting? I do wonder if I fell into a big vat of "sissy sauce" LOL

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Lumbar disaster, Sept of 2011 I started with an irregular heartbeat. Is that arrhythmia? I'm irregular in the upper chambers. That's why I take the Metoprolol. I used an at home monitor then I had a stress test at the cardiology specialist, but as I couldn't run on the tread mill fast enough or long enough for the pictures they wanted, they gave me medicine that causes your heart to react as if you're running. The Metoprolol has (except for 1 brand) kept me beating regular and feeling OK. I'm going to give this some attention now, because I'm tired of the brand being switched constantly. I don't see the need in constant change with the brand of my medications. Especially now that I'm aware that there is such a huge percentage of legal difference between brands.

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Lumbar disaster, I was having trouble understanding the difference in the words generic and substitute when talking with the insurance company. The Oxymorphone that I was given, may be a substitute not generic for Opana, and that's why they won't pay for it again. You are probably right that Opana doesn't have a generic. I've been taking the "real" Opana for several days now and it's really hard for me to believe, but I actually feel even better. But I am having sleep issues, big time. I am so sleepy but when I do sleep, there's really vivid dreams and not sleeping over an hour or so at a time (again LOL), but that could be my FM.

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Lumbar disaster, Hi. Did you reach a decision about starting the Enbrel? How are you doing with stopping the prednisone? What's the relationship with doctors and pharmaceutical sales people? My other half is diabetic and just started a new drug that his doctor said the sales person was pushing and we would give it a try. Are doctors getting football tickets for prescribing new drugs? LOL

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OMG ! I don't know where to start with so many topics and many are really important. The "doctor" who cut your oxy by 60mg per day, put you in some level of withdrawal for no good reason, you should have been tapered much slower. The best part is this cowboy doc had no real good reason but sadly that's the way they are being taught vs. the propaganda of 20 years ago when the belief was that NO ONE should suffer pain this day in age ...and they handed out opioids like M&Ms which I think still would be ok if not for all the abuse and H addiction which many believe is traced to opioid PMs.

Are you sure your Oxymorphone ER is a generic ? I could swear Opana was still under patent. The ER meds I mentioned are very hard, plastic like pills that are intended to prevent abuse and they turn into a sticky mess when wet with water ( I could care less, that's for the scum addicts to deal with). As for the fibromyalgia meds they really don't receive great reviews. The advertising has even shifted toward ' diabetic nerve pain' ....just watch the ads during the evening news for Lyrica ? Cymbalta I do believe was marketed as an anti depressant (it's a SNRI., selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor)

What I'm saying is yes, it's all about big pharma making big $$ The drug flops as an anti depressant or fibro medication, so lets feed it to them as something else ! Another side effect of those products is all the fun getting off of them ! Nothing like the sensation of big static like shocks and pre seizure. ANd like I mentioned, nightmares ? Very vivid and horrible along with sleep paralysis for months after.
Metoprolol is generic Toprol. I take it for arrhythmia (PVC's PSVT) and I swear the generics suck as do many others who use it for such
To be continued !

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Lumbar disaster, I have a friend who has scoliosis, and disc degeneration and he has been told that fusion surgery is the only option available to him. He's on a pain management program also. He has an inversion table (I believe that's what it's called) that he uses and that seems to help with the pain on some days. Have you tried that?

You hadn't mentioned if you do your own housework or if someone else does it. I'm always looking for ways to stay as "normal" as possible, so always trying different approaches to accomplishing what I was able to do before. The friend I mentioned does what housework he is able to do, contributing what he's able to, to their lives. He isn't able to vacuum with a regular vacuum cleaner, but he found that a shop vac was the answer, cause the only weight he's lifting is the hose. I ordered my shop vac this week. I haven't been able to vacuum for a couple of years. I think for two reasons, the motion and the weight. The hose is a totally different motion and again no weight. Hopefully I'll be as successful, if not, well, we'll have a new shop vac.

I wasn't able to mop. Over a year ago, I purchased a Shark unit. The unit that is priced around $100, it's the unit that does hard floor vacuum then you flip the switch and it steam cleans the floor. It has the machine washable removable pads. It's light purple and looks like a small vacuum cleaner. Success!! Able to mop again!! I've let every chronic pain person I know try it, several people have purchased it. May be I should contact Shark and let them know that I should receive a cut LOL

My last medical questions of the day LOL. My xrays were back for my doc visit yesterday. I had xrays done on knees, hips, arms, spine, and neck. Almost all my joints show "moderate" arthritis. The cervical disc show some degeneration, lower disc are out of alignment and my hips (which have the most pain other than my spine) show very little arthritis. Any idea what "moderate" mean when used with arthritis? Is "severe" when you are wheelchair bound? The lower disc that are out of alignment, is that what a chiropractor is for? My doctor said that what the xrays show isn't necessarily an indication of what sort of pain the arthritis is causing, as damage to cartilage and soft tissue don't show with the xray as it would with MRI or other tests. But as words sometimes seem to mean different things when used in medicine, I was curious if you have any info on the word "moderate"?

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Lumbar disaster, I mentioned to you that last month I was prescribed Lyrica (for Fibromyalgia pain), filled the prescription, but haven't started taking it, because I have questions about side effects, long range effects etc. before I start it. Also I mentioned that opiates do help my FM pain and about the study that was done by a pharmaceutical company that concluded "Opiates do not help Fibromyalgia pain" and that company manufactures an alternative drug. Thought that company may have been Pfizer. Well Joke on me LOL Lyrica is the alternative drug which is manufactured by Pfizer and the study was done by them LOL. You said you tried Lyrica, Savella, and Neurontin and nightmares from hell and other side effects. More detail, nightmares from hell and other side effects. What type? How long? Did the side effects stop as soon as you stopped Lyrica?

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Lumbar disaster, I did notice that I've been sleeping lots more this past month than normal. But as I've had such an issue with sleep (I blame the pain) I was enjoying the sleep. Last week, Spring finally hit us here in the Rockies and I don't want to sleep the nice weather away, Winter seems to hit early here too. I battle an overwhelming fatigue with the Fibromyalgia, but usually am unable to sleep for more than 1 to 2 hours at a time. Some nights this past month, since starting the ER, I've slept 4 hours at a time. My recent blood work showed an increase in my red cell count, so it was mentioned that I may need a test for sleep aphnea, cause the higher red count sometimes indicates that. I think it's the 9000 ft plus altitude which causes higher red counts too. But more likely the doctor is right, the lack of sleep is the cause LOL.

I noticed when the Oxycodone 30mg IR, was my primary pain med at 4x to 5x daily, I was awake even more often as the meds would wear off. And also cause of trips to the potty. Oddly, it hits in spells where it seems that I make a trip every 15 to 30 mins, then other times of the day, I'm like a normal person. Have no idea the cause, just know it isn't fluid intake, cause that's the first thing I limited.

Unless I'm speaking to my doctor or one of my chronically ill friends, it seems that everything I complain about or question, the answer is always because I take opiates. That's one of the reasons that I find it so helpful to hear what your take on things are. Definitely makes me feel less alone with my problems.

Your statement about blind faith in a doctor or medications will get you killed, is so very true.
I had a doctor for one visit (when my primary retired from the clinic), that blamed everything that I have wrong with me on the fact that I was taking opiates. She even went as far to say that my retired doctor had given entirely too many prescriptions for opiates to patients of the clinic and she was going to change that. She put me on Celebrex, doubled my Cymbalta dosage (that I was having side effects with, which is why I scheduled the visit), decreased my oxy by 60mgs daily, all in one visit. Informed me that the next visit we would be cutting the oxy mgs again because the Celebrex would do the job for the pain. I started with a good attitude, hoping that her plan worked. But during that week my whole body went into a HUGE tailspin. Several days later I started crying and could not stop (Cymbalta) along with being in constant pain. When I had taken the Celebrex for three days, it didn't help my pain at all, I read the drug insert, which said if you have any sort of heart issue, DO NOT TAKE CELEBREX (big black bold letters), (oddly she had refilled the Metoprolol for my heart that same visit) the insert also plainly states that Celebrex is not for long term pain relief. As I have chronic pain with no cure in sight, and a heart issue, why would you prescribe Celebrex? Also as I was having side effects with Cymbalta, why would you double the dose? Called the clinic about the uncontrollable crying and the uncontrolled pain. A "fill in" doctor had me reduce my Cymbalta dosage back to the previous dosage, which after 3 days my crying stopped. Online, I found information on the pre marketing study of Celebrex and the percentage of people who had no cardiac issues, who developed issues while taking Celebrex. I stopped taking the Celebrex immediately, no loss as it didn't do a thing for the pain. As this new doctor didn't care that I was having such problems and did nothing (not even a return phone call) when I had called her four straight days, I knew I wasn't going to see her again. Hence the one and only visit.

I decided on my own, as I had developed side effects with the Cymbalta (I had been taking it for over 3 years), to wean myself off, which I did. I couldn't find a doctor in our area that was taking new patients. Grace of God, I have a friend who works with a wonderful doctor at the hospital and he agreed to "fit me in". I had Percocet (about 30 from the year before), some 30mg oxy (15 or 20 left from previous months) which allowed me (rationing) to make it thru the pain, until I was able to get an appointment with the wonderful doctor. Odd too, if opiates are the "root" of all my problems, why would I ever have any left? After the lack of caring on that doctor's part, I don't feel the same about doctors any more. After reading about what I consider to be a high percentage of people who had problems with Celebrex in the pre marketing study, yet they were allowed to market it, has made me question every medication I take.

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Lumbar disaster, What the pharmacy gave me last time was Oxymorphone Hydrochloride 20mg manufactured by Global. As it was my first month of an ER (could not afford them before finally getting insurance) I knew no difference between those and the Opana. I just returned from my 70 mile trip to a pharmacy in the nearest larger city (where I now drive as our local pharmacies carry only KVK Tech products) LOL, with my first bottle of actual Opana, it says Oxymorphone hydrochloride 20mg on the bottle of Opana also and says it's manufactured by endo pharmaceuticals. I'll let us know if I notice any difference in the pain relief. I see a difference in the pills, same color and almost same size, but the Global product seems to be coated with some sort of shiny plastic that I don't see on the Opana. Hopefully the Opana will be as effective as the Global product. Is the shiny plastic another "cause of the drug abusers" thing?

I take a heart med also Metoprolol 25mg, which the pharmacies just seem to give me whatever brand they have on hand, As it looks different almost every month. Sometimes I can tell it doesn't seem to work as well, and then other months, there doesn't seem to be much difference between who made it. Hey it's just for my heart, so why would we want to be consistent?

I was taking Etodolac for inflammation in my shoulder, but it was tearing my stomach up, so I stopped it again this past week. I take Ranitidine 150mg twice daily to keep ulcers under control.

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As far as Opana is concerned I didn't even know there was a generic. Many generics don't seem to work well for me including a heart med I take called Toprol. From what I have learned there is a deviation of up to 20% less active ingredient allowed in generics (which can be part of the kvk issue) ...anything to make an extra dollar. Most pharmacists will argue this fact, though in recent times they seem to either ignore the question or agree.
As for binders and fillers I have no clue other than people complain about them.
20 mg of Opana is what I am prescribed twice per day and I find it to be a bit much sometimes ...very sedating ? That's one problem I did not have with Oxycontin.
Titrating means to build up slowly....Opana is usually started at 5 or 10mg then worked up over several weeks. I have been up to 30 mg but don't need it OR the cost ! In fact during the warmer months I ask to reduce back to 10mg x 2 Talk about a doctor giving strange looks ! I guess I'm not an addict ?
Another extended release med that came out is called Exalgo ....Hydromorphone aka Dilaudid I have read great reviews for pain but very painful in the pocketbook.
I just wish oxycodone didn't get such a bad name (thanks to the junkies) It really works well in my situation and it allows flexability in when I need it, ie. more now and less later
Right now my biggest problem is getting off prednisone ! What a nightmare

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