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I am about to start Suboxone for the second time. The first time I didn't follow the rules and began taking it before I was in withdrawals. It was awful. I want to do it right this time. They say wait until you are at least in mild withdrawals. That is different for everyone. I am terrified of taking it too early. I am snorting heroin daily. I have weened myself off to just three lines per day. The dope I get isn't good either. My question is do I need to wait until I am a complete mess? Can I start taking it when I just start feeling anxious and restless? Should I be puking. Anyone with advice or personal experience please respond. I have to get it right this time. I have complete faith in this drug. Thanks!

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have been on sub for almost 2 years, due to financial reasons decided to quit and be sick for a week, didn't work (took perc's, going back to a=hole doc with borrowed money today), all it caused was for me to realize I'm still the same addict I was 2 years ago... sub is ok, but not no miracle drug, it's a LEGAL substitute.. I have 2 months until I graduate and for that time I have to be on top of my game, then it's treatment for me, wd from sub is hell....same addiction just relieved in a different form

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just wanted to comment on something Lou said....... you said someone that can quit cold turkey without meds or and emergency room visit isnt physically addicted.... I beg to differ!!!!!!!! I used for a long time and i can promise you my withdrawals were very severe....... i got myslef into trouble and had to quit before i ended up in jail and lose my husband and my son.... so i did quit cold turkey and it was miserable... i vomitted and had diarrhea for 5 weeks ( i lost 23 pounds) I couldnt sleep through the night for months.... my skin crawled, i paced the floors, my limbs wouldnt be still, my muscles kept tightening up to the point of cramps, it was like restless leg syndrome but all over my body, i was completely exhausted and didnt feel like moving...... i dont honestly know how i made it through it and i dont think i could ever do it again now that i know how miserable it was.... i would literally sit in the floor and scream i was in such misery !!!! so dont say that anyone who quits cold turkey without meds or ER was addicted because I am proof that that is not the truth!!!!!

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***** sorry correction on my previous statement.... dont say that someone that quit cold turkey **wasn't addicted**

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Just filled a script for Subox yesterday, waiting for the withdrawl to start from methadone. Last dose was 48 hours ago and I still dont really feel sick. My dopefeind mind wants to go grab a tab of Suboxone before it gets rough. Kind of worried about doing it too soon after reading some of these posts though.

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I have been taking roxy 30's up to probably at worst 15 a day...i have a chronic degenerative back disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, and fibromyalgia and i have been in this vicious cycle for 5 years and want to stop. I have tried over 60 plus drugs to help and failed all non narcotic forms of treatment..started with vicodin, then to percocets, then to the roxicodone. I am scared to try suboxone....and wonder if it helps with chronic pain or if it just keeps the dope sickness away? I want to be a better mother that doesn't need meds to work, move but don't know if this is a reality for me...there is no high involved but enough is never enough and when the bottle is full i empty it...i need some really good advice. my husband is a recovering addict and introduced me to a lot..i was always the one that could put whatever down but the pain is unbearable daily...to where if I didn't have kids I would rather be dead. If i wanted to try suboxone how long do i need to wait to try it...coming off 6 30's or 2 oxy 80's.....someone please tell me what to do i have tried everything and am tired of treading water and the cycle every month of being sick for a week or more..I can't do it anymore. please advise.

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Best Advice try to get Subetex about 10 doses to start it does not have the blocker in it like suboxone than ease into the suboxone experienced this many times Good Luck

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Suboxone is an opiate blocker and has no effect on Cocaine

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I've been IVing Dilaudid, OxyContin, and Oxycodone for the past 3 months. Before that I snorted oxy for about a year and a half. I've tried to quit thousands of times and never made it more than 6 days without going back to it again and again. Im looking into suboxone treatment and wondering what you guys can tell me about it. How long will it take until I can be off of suboxone and not crave opiates? Will I feel any withdrawal-like effects when I completely ween off of suboxone? The treatment will be at a clinic with doctors and nurses so I will have help. I'm basically just clueless to this whole process and can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for.

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Please reply. Anyone. I'm desperate.

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ive been a chronic pain patient for 17 years with lupus fibromyaligia diabetes degenerated disc probs. i need help please..i wwas on suboxone couple yrs ago but got back into pain mgmt doc and have been on 1160 mgs of oxycontin op and three 30 mgs of roxiecodone a day, of course i was using them all up in two weeks and lying in misery...las nite after going to a suboxone doctor with no other options i took an 8 mg strip...i wont lie i had a few of my oxycontin op's leftover woke up felt like s*** even after waiting 24 hrs to take my first suboxone and did a stupid thing i know..i took 160 mgs of oxycontin op i had leftover..now my heart is racing at about 120 beats a minute im vomiting and dont feel my oxy's could tht one strip block the effects o my oxycontin or what..i have kids at home and im scaared sick and afraid im in pain and dunno wht to do..any advice?? oh btw reason i went to suboxone again was i got throw out of pain doc for low pill count.

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I waited 12 hours and it put me into the worst withdrawal ever, that was an 8mg pill and this is going back years. I'm currently going through the same thing u are now. I was taking subs since May 11' and started using dope i.v for the last 12 day's .. Still cannot believe I did this to myself again. But now I wanna take a sub to detox off the crap but I'm sketched out because I don't know how long to wait, I have talked to friends and did a little research and 17 - 18 hours seems safe. I'm personally going to wait 17 and make shure my legs are kicking before I take a very very tiny piece tomarrow morning, I will let u know if it worked...GODSPEED!

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Yes it is a drug and you can get high from it if you take a high dose, like a whole 8mg pill or film. send her to rehab in patient long term... Take it from me, someone who has been on methadone 120mg for two years, detoxed, wqas clean and started suboxin. a drug is a drug is a drug..

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Yes I use coke once in a while and I was on suboxin, your wife is lieing to u man and she is probable cheating too, because if she's on coke chances are she's getting it off a guy and probably doing it with him as well. Seems like your wife has a lot more to hide then u think.

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I started taking subs about 6 years aro, my dad gave them to me one day instead of Percocet, that I would take time an again. I'm 33 now and my dad has been a heroin addict my whole life, when he gavE me the subs, I chewed it and it tast like candy, I thought it was fake so I took like three, wow was I f***ed up, I could not believe how high I was, I never been high like that ever. Fair to say I was addicted. I would work my ass off on them, bang girls, and drink like a fish, that's were they kill u they make u drink and drink like a nut. The subs f***ed up my life. Now I started doing heroin. And Im scared to take subs. But I have to go back, cause. The dope just makes me sleep. It sucks. And don't even get u high. Suboxin is way strong and it will make you feel like the world is yours, but people still suck, and a person that does drugs is hiding something. Or can't tolerat there suroundings, best thing for a addict is to find what there looking for. And stay away from negative s***.

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coccapuffs is 100 percent right. been thru it all he is exactly right!!!!!!!!!! ive taken subs way too eary and its the worst withdraw you will EVER feel. about 2 hours and you will feel better but you will be thr heel for those 2 hours. i usually finally faLL ASLEEP AND FEEL A LITTLE BETTER. sorry for all caps, anyways, ive been having leg cramps still from subs. anyhone know a way to calm them down?

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cocoapuffs is 100 percent right. I been through it and all he is exactly right!!!!!!!!!! I've taken a sub way too eary lots of times. I woke up sweating and said screw it and I knew that was not smart. I only waited about 10 hours and its the worst withdraw you will EVER feel. It will last about 2 hours and you will finally fall asleep, wake up and feel better but you will be through hell for those 2 hours. i was able to go to work because i set my alarm early. (took 2 8 mgs at 6am and had to wake up at 8am for work)I fell asleep withought even knowing it and woke up feeling fine. istill feel okay with a few xanax to help, anyways, ive been having leg cramps still from subs. anyone know a way to calm them down? anyone can ask me anything i pretty much know everything because ive been through it all !!!!!!. i can take a sub though, and 12 hrs later do H and are able to feel it although it makes you feel better you will not get the high you are hoping for. for instance the leg cramps and urge will be gone but you will not peak. im just looking for help on my leg crapms @cocoapuffs you seem to know the truth, any help?

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man. you read my mind, or should i say body. this girl knows! as i do :I(

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Hi I really enjoyed reading your post.. I am currently trying to get on suboxone. I have been taking 4-5 roxy 30s a day. i am very small 115 pds. how soon should i wait before i start suboxone after i last did a roxy? im very scared i'll be thrown into precipracated withdrwls. and how much suboxone of a strip should i take? Thank you so muc for your help

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I will tell you a secret about how to transition from dope to suboxone in only 12hours. Your last day of dope cut down a bit and do your last dose around 10pm. You then use 2mg of suboxone at about 10am but here is the secret before you do this get some adderall and xanax. When you take adderall before taking the sub it takes away any withdrawl symptoms you may have like kicking and twitching or any of them you actually get a sense of euphoria also take a little xanax dont over do it and fall asleep just a little to help with anxiety. Boom you will be able to stop using and only be on sub. you might need more suboxone after the first 2mg but just take more a couple hours later if needed.

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If you really wanna do it right this time start at the least possible dose you can. The higher the dose the harder it is to come off. I have been on it for six years taking anywhere from 8 mg up to 16 mg a day I myself did not do it right either. Stupid. Now I made the decision two weeks ago to quit cold turkey. I am on day 14 and by day 30 I should be able to get back to work. So my only recommendation START as low as dose as possible that way coming off wont be as horrible. My withdrawals I feel like I wanna die.... So the KEY is low low dose. Take 2 mg and wait and hour see how you feel then do that again wait another hour see how you feel keep doing that until you stable and you will see you wont need to eat an entire 8 mg pill. Knowing what I know now I would have def. done things differently.

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