Withdrawals From Soma, Morphine, Xanax, Oxycodone - Help Please (Page 8) (Top voted first)

I have been in pain management for years, lost my doctor along with other patients, and primary won't fill or says she can't and messes up my progress to get in new pain management in time. Now I'm losing Soma, was 3 times a day, now I have 7 tabs left. Was on 45 mg of morphine 3 times, oxycodone 15s and xanax 5 mg 3 times a day. Which she said she can not write for. Why, if she knew or thought this pain clinic was prescribing more than standard, did she never say a word until i had to go to her in desperation for this? Your primary that has to refer you and get info to get into a new pain clinic, I have very serious health issues no one is dealing with, I feel alone and suicidal. I even told my doctor and the old pain clinic staff that left, and not a bit of help, yet they know i have a history of heart failure, bleeds in brain from pain issues. No one cares, our country is falling apart and i asked again today for something for bp and high pulse, got nothing for it but a nurse, they did not send in the info two times that could have had me in pain management by now, and in having the colostomy i had to postpone since I wont do it with out pain mgmt on board.

Today they cut me back more 1 soma for a few days then no more, oxycodone 10mg 3 times to be cut on mon again and morphine cut from 45 3 x to 3o 2 times. All i can do is cry and sleep then cry more then no food, not drinking, feel horrible, and have lost desire to live and fight. These doctors put all on others and not one seems to care or no what to do with all of us real pain patients. I just want to die at this point for i am so tired of suffering and its only going to get worse. I feel so bad for all of the posts i have seen and know im not alone. All i see is the same four walls every day, go no where and before i felt i had some reason to fight and live to fight cancer and even cancer doc can not help get you in pain mang. They said today it will take at least 8 weeks to get in and ill be dead then or out of meds in a stroke etc. That is my biggest fear. Have had 3 bleeds in brain from this and pain is no joke.

The nurse said today we all are paying for those that dr shop and are addicted and i said i thought even addiction is a matter that needs treatment. They counted my tabs. I take drugs panels, did nothing wrong and most of my pain is caused from docs that did botched surgeries and cancer and injury from accident. I dont no what we all can do or if there is hope but it does not do good to ask on this site if someone knows where to get meds. Its not just docs its insurances companies and pharmacies. It's all getting way too much and hard for even a well person to figure out. I am ready to go home to my maker and wish he would take me soon. I am so tired of the lack of proper dr care in our country and its so sad i feel and pray for you all i want to know who is going to be responsible when i die or end up in a stroke due to this. Xanax withdrawals will be the worst too for i had them before for you can not sleep to escape the torture and they only get worse with time unlike opiates most docs dont seem to know this. I guess i have heart rate of 139 now and bp 200 over 133.

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MM: I don't know. My pain clinic fully works WITH mmj, so it being in my UAs isn't a problem. Let me see if I can find out.

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Get yourself some KRATOM ASAP! It will not come up in drug panels. It is similar to MM. but it's not a drug. It has been banned in a few states. But PLEASE trust me, it will at the very LEAST cut withdrawals by 75%. I got cut and cut and cut on my meds. To very little. This gets me through 2 weeks of nothing. Just Google "kratom for opiate" and read up on it.

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I am not saying it works for everyone. But it sure helps a heck of alot. And NO...IT IS NOT A "DRUG" do some research . It is not synthetic, does not make you "high" it is a member of the coffee beans family. NO DEATHS CAUSED BY IT ALONE...EVER!!! We have more deaths per year from energy drinks, and asprin.

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BL: Unless you are talking about CBD products. They contain no THC and are legal in all 50 states. They do not get you "high". Whether or not they come up in a drug panel, I'm not sure, but I suspect not. I am going to check for sure though.

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MM: Ok, doc says as long as you use CBD ONLY products, and keep your intake under 250 to 300mgs, which is a LOT, you should be fine on the drug panels. I take about 25 to 35 mgs of CBD a day, so as I said, 200+ mgs is a lot of CBD. You should be fine. Just MAKE DOUBLE & TRIPLE SURE that you are only getting CBD. Those products I named are CBD only. Well, the wax and the Charlotte's Web oil are, for sure. Not sure about the terpenes. Good luck.

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kkh, yes, CBD Products are not the same as CBD Oil. CBD Oil is not legal in all 50 States.

It is important to note mm said "...they told me they can get me anything from gummy bears, edibles whatever"

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No I am not being "snippy" if you want to call coffee, tea, soda, sugar...all a "drug" than whoa! Guess you got me there. Since I have been researching relentlessly for information, I've tried several different views. Never once have I ever felt "high" , never felt any different except for a lift in my mood. It has never had a drug overdose attributed to it....ever! The worst thing will happen if you invest too much at a time, you'll get nauseated and puke it out. Since I am 100% sure of all my research from many different people and sites. I have full confidence in what I'm saying, I get discouraged when people make assumptions about kratom, then go and spread these as facts. I really wish you knew how harmless and how enormously helpful this planet is for chronic pain, opiate addicts, depression, and anxiety. Your erroneous comments will cause a few people to walk away from help, rather that to it....all because you refuse educate yourself...anyone at all who isn't sure....Google kratom for opiate withdrawals...read and inform your self. I know of a few people who very easily could of died without it.

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Ssq, I also have tried different strains of kratom and it sure helped me with withdrawals, I did not think this was classified as a drug, it has not gone through any FDA has it? Look, I wouldn't care if it was a drug, at this point I am taking what I can get just so I can live some sort of life, when I don't have any meds I cannot even take a shower. If I was rich I would be buying what I need, unfortunately being on disability I cannot afford the basics, but if I could I would and I am just being honest.

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Everyone has a different reaction to different drugs. Morphine controlled my pain and I was able to live an active life. Now they are reducing my morphine and upping oxycodine. Oxycodine makes me sleepy and it doesn't work as well on the pain. I'm researching marijuana strains and different delivery systems.

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You are 100% correct. It is NOT a drug. A little research and people would know the majority of the false / fake (news lol) being put out about kratom has been perpetuated by the pharmaceutical industry. Why pay for their hazardous chemicals if your able to use an all natural, non toxic organic plant? It terrifies me how close the DEA came to banning it.

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Thank you for sharing that link....I wish everyone on here with a dependence on opiods would click on this link and read it, the bigger the outcry the more research will be done. Irregardless of what some people want to believe about it being a drug/ NOT a drug. You have a much better chance of fighting your dependence with it, than without. I believe this epidemic will cause almost all chronic pain patients to be cut off, legitimate as well as those who were unintentionally made addicts. People are going to DIE when this happens. I was suicidal until I found the gift of kratom.

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I'm so sorry about your sister. I have often wondered myself what happened to "Grandma Pat" As her post was 26 months ago. I sincerely believe we are going to see more and more chronic pain patients die. You have to jump through so many hoops at "pain management" the physical pain is horrible, but the mental , emotional pain is just as bad, I hope you tell your sisters story over and over...send a copy to the DEA .

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SSQ: I think you have a skewed notion of what a "drug" is defined as. Yes, caffeine is a drug. Aspirin is a drug. Cough syrup. Garcinia Cambogia, tobacco/nicotine, milk thistle, even cough drops...I could name a hundred different things here that aren't dangerous, that come from benign sources, that you can't overdose on, that are considered drugs!

You seem to have this notion that "drugs" require a prescription, or that they have to be manufactured by Big Pharma. They don't. As far as the rest of it..."intentionally spreading false information"..."competition"...are you even serious? Because you sound a little nuts to be quite honest. You have attached this almost mythical negative connotation to the word "drug", which I don't really understand. ANY COMPOUND OR SUBSTANCE THAT ALTERS BRAIN OR BODY CHEMISTRY CAN BE CALLED A "DRUG". So maybe YOU should stop thinking that the word "drug" means "narcotic", or even "prescription", because it doesn't. In fact, regarding your "I assume you are able to get information" comment? Maybe YOU should Google "Is Kratom a drug", and read up on the first, oh, FIVE HUNDRED or so sites that come up. And those are NOT pharmaceutical company or DEA sites. They are not sites that are spreading "fake news". Because you are picking a fight over something pretty irrelevant, besides being wrong. I am involved in MEDICAL RESEARCH. I don't sell anything ("competition"? Really?), nor do I post anything but ACCURATE information on here. And unlike yourself, I have pretty clear knowledge of what the word "drug" actually means. Saying something is a drug isn't necessarily a bad thing!! CBD/MMJ is harmless, no one has OD'ed on them, they come from plants...and they are STILL drugs. You are getting caught up in semantics. I mean, saying something "comes from a plant" or saying "no one has ever overdosed from it" doesn't mean something isn't considered a "drug". I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up over this; over the word "drug".

Even the "Kratom User's Guide" says: "The leaves of the Kratom tree have been used as an herbal DRUG by the people's of Southeast Asia since time immemorial." Surely the "Kratom' User's Guide" isn't "intentionally spreading false information, is it?

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Oh honey, I have 4 sisters 5 son's and a daughter...we too have been through the wringer, but we haven't yet gone through the pain of losing anyone, though I do fear that. I have gotten into some (stupidly) arguments about Kratom on here. I just wish more people were aware of the mental as well as physical benefits. It will ease your depression...and for the people fighting addiction, or experiencing withdrawals after being kicked to the curb by their dr. It will stop most of it...at least you won't feel suicidal. It does not take the place of prescription pain killers for all of us in chronic pain, but sometimes the mental is as bad. Again, I am so sorry about your sister, I am going to say a prayer for your burden to be eased . It doesn't sound like much, but God is powerful. Please come post anytime, I'd love to chat with you. I need support as well, maybe we can help each other. God bless you. G.P too...I pray she found a better, more compassionate dr. These days they seem to be in short supply.

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kkh, CBD Oil bought online is not the same as CBD Oil bought it certain states. The difference CBD Oil bought online does not contain THC. CBD Oil bought in states where it is legal does contain THC.

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KKH.. I actually agree with you. The pharmaceutical industry lied to dr.s saying that oxycontin this wonderful new long lasting pain medication was not addictive, and would be better, safer for patients. And YES, the Dr's bear responsibility too! They had to of noticed that their patients were asking for more and higher dosages, yet they continued to prescribe more and more opioids. They made more money as their patients kept coming back. Now to keep their licences, they are quickly using any excuse to cut those patients off, and get them out of their practice. My pain dr of 3 years informed all his patients he was closing his practice, and gave everyone 2 post dated scripts, and told we'd get a letter with a referral to another dr, and he'd send our records over. None of that happened...he just took off out of state, without another word.. I luckily found another dr, who was aware of the situation with my previous dr. And was willing to take my prescription records from my pharmacy. But my new dr was so ANGRY! he said we were all over prescribed, and that Dr should be in orison for what he did to us. Then he cut most all of us by half our meds. It was a rough period of adjustment....but I'm grateful now. I am much more active with less days of sleeping or lying on the couch. But Dr.s who see the patients every single month have to know there was a problem. Funny how there have been no massive legal suits against the drug pushers....or pharmaceutical companies for lying about the addiction potential. I have read documents online, that prove they lied. All this happens, and true, honest pain patients are denied the help they need. Truly sucks.

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Re: margie (# 7)

Wow...10 Soma is a lot..I had 4 a day at first, then 3 for years & my new Dr. cut me down to 2 a day for 2 months, then cut me off..I need it during the morning, afternoon & bed time..Now I suffer..even though I had to pay for it at my last 2 visits.. Drs. don't have empathy & that suxs... I can understand withdrawals..I suffer with spasms daily, especially at night!

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That's not the case where I live,I get a 120 pain meds every 3 weeks,of course I've been seeing the same doctor for 20 years,I also get flexeril 90 pills every 3 weeks.

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Do your research but Oxymorophone I heard controls pain well, however can make you more sleepy then ocycodone. I swich my pain meds up quite a lot to help pain more.

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I hate to break it to you but, our country is killing the middle class and older people along with the sick. You're going to need to find someplace for euthanasia. Your medications are done. That, or you will have to go on the streets. That's what Obama wants you to do.

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