Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 8)
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is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.
Purdue finally lost their patent and generic Oxycontin has started distribution. I'm curious about the cost difference and effectiveness. Purdue is not allowed to produce the generics but I'm curious who is.
Hey Jay, yep I was able to get the Sandoz on Thurs... However I had opened one lot into my dispensor so couldnt take those back to be replaced, so have been using one dose of those & one of the Sandoz each day... Last dose was today & i hope to feel much better in a few days, it was a great reminder how badly my body reacts to the OP formula... Not good at all. I have yo go into hospital for surgery soon & after this I am worried whether they will have the Sandoz in there..... I dont want to take them again, do you or anyone else know which brand the hospitals stock?
The reason you felt so ill, is that you were going into withdrawal - the reformulation does not dissolve properly in the stomach so you do not get your dosage, many have found the table it their faeces, undisolved.
Thank God for Sandoz and the Australian health department.
So glad you are feeling better, the difference is truly amazing isn't it, by day five you should be back to normal.
Cheers!
Yes I agree - thanks to the Australian government and Sandoz for caring. I have been on the plastic OP's for 3 months, and my health has deteriorated further.
I was diagnosed with HB and my ankles swelled up. In addition I felt extremely anxious and cold. My heart rate was also up. My general health was deteriorating as my pain worsened. I felt I was going to have a heart attack or a stroke.
I knew deep inside that the OP were responsible, so I researched and tried to find a generic oxycodone, I finally found one 'SANDOZ OXYCODONE'. I have been on them for one day and the difference is phenomenal, I don't feel cold chills and experience sweats anymore, my heart rate is lowered, and my pain feels stable and I am able to cope with life better.
The duration of the pain relief is definitely longer than OP. In my opinion OP's are a dangerous drug causing dangerous medical complications and side effects that can lead to health deterioration.
I truly recommend 'SANDOZ OXYCODONE' to the genuine person who struggles with pain - it's a God sent compared to the OP's.
Dear John S
The doctor is correct, even 10mg of oxycodone can kill u but thats only if u are allergic to it! But it doesn't sound like your son has a allergy to opioids as he has had them before. I know for a fact, that doctors are still prescribing opioids in the US. U need to find another doctor, preferably one who actually cares for people who are hurt and need extra compassion. I wish u luck and your wonderful son lots of love.
If u were on the east coast I could give u a doctors name, one that can help.
I've had 2 days of Mundipharma oxycontin & im feeling sick as.... This stuff is so bad, hopefully my pharmacy has others in stock so i can change the other box i have... Cant believe the wholesaler, shouldnt be saying something is discontinued when its not at all true.... I rang my pharmacist & told her after i spoke to Sandoz rep... She was really unimpressed with the wholesaler as she saw how sick i was with new formula. Again i apologize for freaking everyone out. I was also told about it being discontinued by another source so I really was worried.... I wanted to get everyone onto it asap if it was true.
Yep, totally agree Jay..... Thanx Aussie government & thanx Sandoz for being so helpful, understanding & providing us with a medication that was working before Mundipharma decided to be greedy & shifty!!! Yay Sandoz!
Hi Michelle, yes I rang them as well and they will read this post as they just rang me to ask where I got this info from! How great is that! You were right about the supply issues which have now been resolved, thank goodness. Also, I rang PBS and they told me no problems with it, I also rang my pharmacist and ordered my next lot in early, before I knew all this.
Be still, my beating heart :-) So relieved I cannot tell you Michelle, great news. They are not doing in Australia what was done to the poor souls in the USA, who did have it taken off them. Let us all support SANDOZ for their help.
Cheers all.
Thanks Michelle,
Yes the Dr. is trying to scare my son. I went to the Veterans hospital and spoke with his pain doctor. He told me and my son: there is no proof that opiates will help reduce pain if used for more than a few weeks - long term use has NO value. The same doctor told me that he knows of patients that overdosed from a single low dose (10mg) of Oxycodone and died. Fear is what doctors are using in the USA to avoid giving pain meds to people in pain.
Recently our government put together a committee of elected officials - Senators, Congressman and others but no doctors it seems their goal is to get rid of all opiate pain drugs.
People here in the USA are scared to death that one day we will go to see our doctor only to be told - sorry the government won't allow me, your Dr. to help you with your chronic debilitating pain.
The National Pain Report is a great new site here in the states and it keeps us very well informed. Check it out.
Thanks,
John S.
Thank god sandoz came to our rescue when the effects of mandilapharm meds kicked in 11mts agey I pretty much lost my life but it has been a fight. The chemest in my town has done his best to get the other chemests in the local area not to stock it must be good kick backs but in the end my dr is in charge and he went to bat for me and now when I eat there are no stomach cramps and the neck spasms have stopped. Life could not be better and sandoz only got the go ahead to sell them here in oz in the middle of 2014 so there is no chance of them stopping. Those words were strait from sandoz customer service.
Sorry Jay hope you read my next post after i dpoke with rep from Sandoz & was assured they WILL NOT BE DISCONTINUING Oxycodone... It was a supply/demand problem that the Pharmacy Wholesaler misinformed my & other pharmacies of discontinued product!!! My feeling on the matter is maybe the wholesaler is stuck with a whole heap of plastic OP they cant get rid of now people are finding the generic is available. I hope this is straightened out now & everyone feels great about Sandoz's conversation with myself today. Cheers
Michelle, I nearly had a heart attack when I just read your post. I did a search and it IS still available on the PBS, this is what I copied:
Oxycodone hydrochloride 80 mg tablet: modified release, 28 tablets (PI, CMI).
Available brands:
OxyContin
Oxycodone (Sandoz)
So - where did you get your information from Michelle? I will talk to my pharmacist tomorrow. Also I was under the impression that other manufacturers were going to do the same as Sandoz in a generic. This just cannot be. I really hope your wrong this time. Please write back asap. I will do some digging and pray, we never have to go back to the awful crap we were on before. Keep your chin up.
Sorry people, my pharmacy was informed that Sandoz have discontinued the Oxycodone MR but its not true.... I spoke with a rep from Sandoz this afternoon, they had a problem keeping up with supply, some wholesalers are informing pharmacies that its no longer available, probably to get rid of Mundipharma OP crap but it will be back in stock shortly. It was only a couple of strengths having issue 80's & 40's so you may not have even noticed the issue. Thanx Sandoz, very relieved we are not going to be back to where we were this time last year. Hope everyones doing ok, & keeping warm in this horrible weather. Cheers
Hi Tad. What brand are you saying don't work. The Mundipharma ones ?
I have just been told Sandoz are no longer manafacturing Oxycodone Mod Release.... Back to the plastic crap of Munipharmas everyone!!!! Im devestated.... I have a couple of days left of Sandoz & thats it. Ive just written an email to Sandoz asking for an explaination & for them to reconsider this decision... Everyone please do the same, & make sure you tell them how bad an impact this will be for your quality of life, how terrible the side effects of OP formula are etc. also dont be rude or swear etc. much as you may feel like it! Hopefully, if enough people show how much we need the original formula Oxycontin they will reinstate it.
The new oc formula does NOT WORK. IM NOT AN ABUSER AND GET MORE RELIEF FROM PANADOL FORTE but not as effective as original oc's. Bring them back and survey people for potential abuse.
KJB Targin actually comes in different strengths: 5/2.5, 10/5, 20/10, 40/10... theres is no 2mg at all, so i wouldn't be pointing at others implying misinformation! Targin is a Mundipharma product-same distributor of original Oxycontin & new formula Oxycontin... The idea behind it is to reduce the constipation side effect of Oxycodone, which can cause big problems ie. bowel obstruction, hemorrhoids. In the clinical trials they found doses up to 50mg a day of targin worked well, there was little to no change in pain control & marked improvement of constipation, but over 50mg a day didn't control pain in the same way & caused a lot of side effects, while taking part Targin & part Oxycodone CR to make up dose reduced the effect of Targin to help constipation, so pretty useless really. Naloxone in small dosage is an opioid antagonist -(stopping binding of Oxycodone to opioid receptors) in the gut, but not strong enough to cross blood-brain barrier. In 50mg dose & upward it not only affects local opioid receptors (gut), but crosses the blood-brain barrier affecting the opioid receptors of central nervous system- therefore stopping Oxycodone from binding with these receptors, that stops the analgesia effect needed in first place. So with that said, it is probably a good choice for those on lower dosage Oxycontin, but for those of us on higher dose it will cause withdrawal & is pretty much useless to control pain. KJB you made a comment about overdose that killed someone being 4 x normal dose, i dont know who you talking about but if its in reply to Johns post you need to read it properly! John was talking about doctors in US not wanting to prescribe Opioid painkillers, his son was told a single Oxycontin could could kill him...
I presume this was to scare him that he shouldn't take Opioids for pain relief (not 100% sure on that though). His son was prescribed Motrin x4 daily which is an anti inflammatory-Ibuprofin & resulted in his son getting an ulcer! Im on the fence about Targin, im unable to take it as my dosage is to high, but I would consider trying it if i was on a lower than 50mg a day dose, as i had a bowel obstruction 2 yrs ago & its not fun at all! I had a nasogastric tube to try & break it up, was throwing up fecal matter, sick as a dog, in excruciating pain. I ended up having to be rushed into surgery & gutted like a fish, came out of anaesthetic screaming, the pain was so bad! Spent 3 days in ICU with pain specialist not leaving my side (i couldnt take tablets as i couldnt keep anything down) trying to get enough IV pain killers into me to control the pain. I contracted MRSA (hospital superbug), turned septic & nearly died. Had to give me 10 bags of blood, was on IV antibiotics for 2 months & an abscess formed 2mm from my spinal cord. Had surgery to remove abscess, 10cm of tissue around it & between 3 vertebrae (now have arthritis in there) from that. All that healed & was ok but the muscles that were cut for surgery split open & i have a massive hernia (waiting to have surgery for that now) hopefully they will be able to cut over the 15cm scar i have from bowel op or it will be another huge scar to add to the many. So if I had an option to try, that may help prevent a bowel obstruction YES i would try it!!! There are junkies on here definitely, but there are also a lot of legitimate people in terrible pain like myself. This forum is a voice for us to find information, discuss our problems & support each other, lets keep it that way.
I don't know who you are talking to KJB, who has died from an overdose. Maybe I cannot see the posts that you see. Nobody that I can see took 4-5 tablets to many. I also want to say that I don't think that anyone on here is pretending to be a doctor or pharmacists and you would be silly to take something just because a person you have never met says it will help without talking to a doctor first. The people on here have helped me a lot and not for one minute have I thought they they are abusing the drugs they are prescribed, if they are that is their business anyway. As for all the mistakes on this forum, what are your qualifications ??? Just curious. Maybe the person that has said 20mg instead of 2mg made a typo...Just saying. You know it's really hard being in pain most days and I wouldn't want to wish it on anyone....Do you have pain issues KJB?
Anyway, Hi Michelle, Kashmir and Jay, I hope you are all doing well. I'm great but busy moving up to the Gold Coast to be nearer my daughter and granddaughter....I have to find a new doctor. The s*** starts again. I have been on the Sandoz brand now for two months and I feel so much better. No yucky stomach, and not so anxious. I hope everyone else is relatively pain free...
Targin is for opiate addicts so you dont and cant misuse it. The dr knows that the nax in the targin pretty much completly stops the oxycontin from working. Sub and naloxone, ect. are used for opiate withdrawal which doesn't even work. Basically it puts your whole body into instant withdrawls. Even if your not an addict it will hurt a bit. The more you take the worse you feel. It does little for pain if anything. Dr's only prescribe that if you ask for it or he's planning to take you off it or thinks your abusing your tabs.
Perhaps the "bad reaction" that killed her was an overdose of oxycodone. She did take 4-5 times her normal dose ... I'm not being unsympathetic, but am being realistic.
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