Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 7)
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is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Hey Scott in post #511 you can see that after I took the Sandoz generic it caused the same GI effects, so I called Sandoz and they told me that Perdue Pharmaceutical is making the generic for Sandoz. Also that it is the same exact formulation as the Perdue Pharmaceutical version. So basically we're all still up the creek with the same OP Oxy Poison version with the Sandoz generic. The only difference is the pill's color/markings and it does have the OP on one side(should have known something was up seeing that)and it's $75 cheaper. Those of us in America get the shaft once again...

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Mark, you mentioned in post #508 you were able to get Sandoz 80mg Oxycontin at a pharmacy in Fort Worth, Texas. I thought Sandoz were only sold in Australia? So, just to clarify, is this the version that does not make your stomach feel awful? Thanks and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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Come on now what you're really talking about is that you're pissed that the new formula can't be inj'ed without going through a couple of steps, don't give me this s*** about a GI problem, we're not i****s okay. I'm in the same boat, the needles better I get it. It only takes 1 minute to prep vs 30 seconds. Be glad your still getting any oxycodone, Obama's bulls*** agenda involving Healthcare is why the DEA has cracked down so hard on all doctors, including pain management specialist. F*** obama. Biggest liar of all time.

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Hi everyone.....
First thing I want to say is that I'm so sorry for all you Americans stuck in the awful situation you are in with the pain medication problems. I feel so greatful to be in Australia and for the Sandos company.
I recently moved up to Queenand and have had a bit of trouble finding a doctor that didn't want to change my medication around but after 5 months I've managed to find a lovely doc who believes that I should stick to what works..... thank god for that.
I also want to thank you Jay for your ideas on my sleeping problems. I did as you said and removed the Doona from our bed and replaced them with cotton blankets. I'm having a much better sleep now. So thank you Jay.
All the best everyone.

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Hi Mark from Fort Worth, Texas. So sorry to hear all this, how very upsetting. Here in Australia, the new Oxycontin made by Sandoz, IS made by Sandoz and not by Purdue (was called Mundipharma here in Oz). I have read that you can tell if it is the new one or not by the fact that the reformulation will not crumple and will turn into jelly if exposed to water. They say the new Sandoz oxycontin will crumple and will not turn to jelly if exposed to water. Of course if it's tampered with then the 'time release' action would be lost. I am only suggesting this as a way you can tell for sure, which medication you have being given. Also, just download the ingredients from each medication and you will be able to see the difference in the formulation.

We all know about the awful GI effects, it is caused by the Polyethylene Oxide coating that is is used to make glue! We were all so sick when it changed but are now better on the new Sandoz here in Oz. Our hearts go out to all of you in the USA because 'choice' has been denied you. Being in pain is no joke. I think everyone is lumped together, and your 'war on drugs' in the USA has created an unfair situation for people that use the meds only for pain relief. I can only suggest that you form a group as there is 'power in numbers' and try to get a petition together so you can approach the 'powers that be' in your country to try and bring about change. There is a website called change.org here in Oz where anyone can create a petition and people have successfully changed government decisions by getting thousands of signatures so they had to listen to the people. Is there anything like this in the USA? Maybe have a search and find out what you can do. I wish you all the best and I HOPE things change for you all, and soon. Cheers!

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Now that I've taken this new Sandoz generic for a few days and I'm continuing to have the same GI issues. I contacted Sandoz only to find out that Purdue Pharmaceutical is actually manufacturing the generic for Sandoz and it is the same crappy ingredients from the brand name in the generic. So those of you like myself who got your hopes up that finally we were going to get a quality ER oxycodone product again that would work as well as the original formulation are shafted here in America once again. Purdue Pharmaceuticals OP Oxy Poison is still being unloaded on us. I guess when the current patent runs out Purdue Pharmaceutical will then of course make a new version that might actually work right. Using the excuse of all the people complaining about GI issues as the reason for another reformulation, because the tamper resistant excuse has already been used to get a new patent.
I'm sorry to have gotten anyone's hopes up by my previous post, but after personally talking to a Sandoz representative by phone just now and it is certain that the Sandoz generic is indeed made by Perdue Pharmaceutical for Sandoz and is the exact same OP formulation that Purdue Pharmaceutical brand name contains. Needless to say I'm angry that this BS Purdue Pharmaceutical Oxy Poison is still being shoved down our throats, literally...

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Jay & regulars will be interested in this!!! Ive been in hospitsl having surgery to fix a 20 x15cm hernia...thanx to previous abdo surgery!! But thats not what im talking about, sorry sodetracked.. while there the hospital was giving me my regular meds.... of course i get a dose when i was with it enough to know i need to swallow.... Look at it & see the familiar 80 on one side, about to have a melt down & see other side of tablet has OC!!!! Soooo my friends....either they were old stock, (i did get OP given as well though) or Mundipharma realise the games up & if they want their money back they need to produce the original!!!! Interested to hear if anyone else has seen original OC around?

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Mark, thats great news.....its so unfair that Purdue where able to get the ban of original Oxycontin through the FDA.....as always its about $$$$ not real peoples health. My pharmacist recently had a letter, from the health department (Australias governing body for medications etc.) asking why I can't take the new OP formula....she explained it made me extremely ill, vomiting, stomach pains & the pain relief was nowhere near as good or consistent as original tablet. I wonder if they are doing a survey to see what issues Australians are having. I hope the rest of the US get the same relief your now having Mark....,good luck all!

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I'm in Fort Worth, Texas and I just filled my 80mg Oxycontin prescription with the Sandoz 80mg generic at my pharmacy on Saturday 08/08/2015. All I can say is, WOW! Having a solid ER oxycodone product again made me get teary eyed! I almost forgot what it was like to have decent long acting pain reduction that doesn't tear up my GI system. Their still extremely expensive and only $75 less than what I paid for the brand name and only come in 80mg as of now. I guess Perdue Pharma lost their strangle hold on their Oxy Poison (OP) formulation in court. Hopefully Sandoz will be able to make all the different mg strengths that Oxycontin comes in for all of you out there looking for a quality ER oxycodone product. I'm sure Purdue Pharma will do everything in their power to keep it from happening and keep an extremely inferior product on the market making people suffer needlessly so they can get richer! God bless the judge whoever he or she is that allowed Sandoz to sell their 80mg Oxycontin. I'm guessing no one will be buying the brand name 80mg OP Oxycontin ever again. If Perdue Pharma doesn't fix their inferior OP formulation they can kiss their Oxycontin cash cow goodbye forever!

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Wendy, the generic made by Sandoz is the same as original formula.... But im sorry to say for you in the US (im guessing that as you are mentioning Purdue) there's no generic of original formula.. We are all in Australia & after Mundipharma (our dis of Oxycontin) had their patent finish here last year they did same thing as Purdue in US & tried to have the original formula banned so new OP formula would give them a whole new patent for another10 yrs & keep the market for themselves. Lol....thanx to our government not bowing to pressure from them to ban original formula, we had a generic option of it within 3 months. The whole guise of it being because of drug abuse is bull... The only time it was changed was exactly when the patent ran out in each country 3 years apart!!!! We do feel for you very much as those few months on that disgusting silicone crap made many of us sick & caused a lot of issues with pain control. All i can say is get as many people as you can to keep calling, emailing & producing petitions to your local MP & federal government including FDA. try & also get some media attention that will put pressure on & question those with power to do something. I wish you the best, no one should be denied pain relief medication that works for them...esp when its all about pharmaceutical companies $$$$$.

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These are old posts but Oxycontin is in the news because Purdue lost their patent three months ago. Supposedly, the generic is like the old OC. I'm wondering if it really is like the old formula, without all of the jelly type binding materials.
I always worried about what that was doing to my stomach.

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What I don't understand is why none of my doctors, spinal specialist, PCP, Psychiatrist, none of them, told me about "dry mouth." I have been on some of these meds for years. In fact, I have been taking something for high blood pressure since 1982. I coveted my teeth. I think the local chapter of the AMA should have a fund whereby you can apply to get veneers if you start having issues with your teeth due to dry mouth that is a direct result of medication.

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Yep me too, although for me the sleep issues are a direct relation to my pain level mainly. My pain treated properly with generic oxycontin sits at a 6-7 generally...this is pretty good for me as it gets up to a 9-10 pretty quickly when on the reformulation. Im never on the lower end of the scale anymore, only in the early years could i get down to a 4-5 & i just cant remember being in such little pain now. I sleep on & off all night.... couple hours sleep, couple hours awake sort of thing...i do get a couple of decent hours if i take my medication in morning at 4/5am as it settles the pain best at that point. I take temazapam 10mg at night & have been for most of the time ive been sick.... Started when going in & out of hospital for long periods for operations & complications & doc decided to leave me with them to try & get a little sleep. I agree Jay sleep deprivation does cause weight gain, its actually been proven...along with pain that prevents or stops the amount of physical activity you do, & the medication also causes weight gain & fluid build up in some people...& in those lucky ones weight loss can happen! ?? unfortunately im the former & as i was extremely fit & did a ton of exercise before falling ill that muscle & my body not able to burn calories the same has seen me put on 10kg i just cant shift. I get edema in my legs really badly. Its horrible & embarrassing but i cant get rid of it completely no matter how hard i work at it. Lyrica didnt help me, but i know it works for some esp people with back & nerve pain. Another is Gabapenton...Neurontin is brand name....an anti seizure medication given to people with pain sometimes...ive tried pretty much everything with my pain specialist, unfortunately nothing much helps bar the oxycontin which at least gives a little relief. The other way to try & help sleep is to do relaxation techniques such as Yoga, meditation, aromatherapy & theres a lot of natural sleep meds you could try...this is where i focus much of my energy... I love Yoga it really does a lot for your body & mind, if interested theres plenty of basic Yoga videos on youtube that can get you started... Hope that helps, best wishes everyone.

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Hi, yes I have 'non-restorative' sleep and have taken 10 or 15 mg of Stilnox (Ambien) for twelve years now, cannot sleep at all without it but I don't mind. I don't know if it's related to the Oxycontin as I have been on it longer than the Stilnox, my sleep problems are 'supposed' to be due to fibromyalgia however I never had sleep issues prior to being on pain medication, that is when my sleep problems started many years ago now.
I used to get seven hours years ago (on Stilnox) but now I get five then end up sleeping in my recliner for an hour in the morning, after I take my pain medication, then I wake up properly and start my day. Sleep is a big issue for me. I have gained a lot of weight since I stopped sleeping properly and I believe it is related. You might find that taking Lyrica helps you to sleep as it calms the brain down, I tried it but I was too drowsy in the morning but my husband swears by it, saying he sleeps better and is more awake in the morning! The opposite of me.
If you can get into a good sleep routine that might help you settle so make sure the room is totally dark and quiet, that you are not too hot or cold. I changed from a quilt to cotton blankets and from cotton sheets to flannelette sheets, much more absorbent as I can sweat at night. I have found it easier to control my body temperature with this change of bedding this also helps me sleep better.
Also, when do you take your medication? That might make a difference to your sleeping also. Are you on the generic or the reformulation and are you on long acting or short acting? The short acting will keep you awake.
Hope this helps, what does everyone else think?
Cheers

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Has or does anyone suffer from sleep problems. Like broken sleep, snoring or not breathing properly from using OxyContin ?
Hope everyone is pain free.

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Thats no fun at all Jay! Yep i can attest to the same... I hadn't even had a filling before getting sick & having to go onto the oxycontin, now I'm battling to keep my teeth...besides the dry mouth, these types of medications can prevent your body from absorbing calcium properly, so its a really good idea to also take vitamin c & calcium tablets.. Vit C aids in calcium absorption. I take a whole laundry list of vitamins to try & keep my body strong as i can as i dont eat as well as i should at times. When my pain levels are high the last thing i want to do is eat, so can go for days without eating... I throw up, so its not through lack of trying... It just doesn't stay down. Mind you, it doesn't help me stay skinny... Unbelievable.... That would be a nice side effect at least... Lol... I used to eat anything i wanted & not put on a kilo......but i did ride 8-10 horses a day track work & then go to full time job so burnt it off i guess. Jay I hope your mouth feels better, it really sucks watching your teeth falling apart when its not your fault... People do make sure you floss, use mouth wash & brush at least twice a day, it really is important as you can see Jay is going through hell. I was brushing my teeth a couple of nights ago & one of my teeth broke... They just crumble like chalk.. Let us know how your going with it all Jay.. Take care.

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Hi Michelle, I had zygomatic implants inserted into my cheekbones, through the sinus and up to the edge of the orbital bones, this was my final option to have teeth! The implants I had over a year ago, all failed and I had no bone left so I have to have the zygomatic ones, they are 40mm long and I have four, plus three 'normal' dental implants, 48 hours later, they put my full top bridge in and attached it to all the implants, this was the worse part as I was so raw and sore but now I have these lovely top teeth. I do still have some loss of feeling in my right cheek, like when you have lignocaine at the dentist, but the area is getting smaller over time, it's 21 days since I had it done, was i hospital over night, didn;'t look too bad after but day 2 and 3 did not look like me, all puffy and swollen with black eyes but soon cleared up. I have been left with a 'burning palate' which is driving me mad, caused by nerve damage at the front, each day I hope it will get better but so far it is the same. Otherwise healing well. I get the permanent teeth in six months then I am doing all the bottom teeth, I cannot tell you how much this has cost, a house deposit would be accurate, and more...but, we need teeth. This was all caused by xerstomia (lack of saliva) due to the oxy for almost two decades. So, anyone reading this, take care of your teeth! No saliva caused decay, keep you mouth wet no matter how, don't let it dry out.
Sorry to hear about what happened to you Michelle, I too have had septacemia and almost died so I know what you went through...but, we are STILL HERE :-)
Cheers!

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Thanx Jay, great info... The hospital I'm going to, the Alfred is really good... I was transferred there after i got MSSA that turned into blood poisoning & septicaemia causing an abscess near my spinal cord & nearly killed me.... Thankfully this operation I'm having was moved from local hospital into the Alfred due to all my complications etc. its the one hospital I can say with certainty takes good care with patients.... & the only one where i haven't had ongoing complications, they really care about you as a person not a number. I had 2 teams caring for me Infectious Diseases & Neuro Spinal Specialists, they were amazing from the minute i arrived, id been in the other hospital for a week with them doing bugger all to save me... My kidneys had shut down, i barely had a blood pressure reading, the infection was rampant & around the abscess infection was eating away the muscle near it...this was 2mm from my spinal chord. As soon as i arrived at the Alfred they had a team of doctors ready, bags of blood etc & the right antibiotics to start me on, & operated 8 hours later to remove dead tissue & abscess... I don't remember much of it, but was told later. I spent 3 weeks in hospital there & another 2 months of hospital in the home on IV antibiotics, i don't know what the hell was going on at Frankston but they could well have killed me if i wasn't transferred then. Im really glad they decided its to hard an op for them & I'm so happy with my surgeon at the Alfred I just saw... Didn't even think about tablets for stay there until this weeks bugger up. Pleased in a way as thats the last thing id need... on top of them struggling with pain control as it is for me when having surgery. I hope your ok now Jay, what did you have done?

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Michelle, I have just been in hospital for a big operation and it is imperative that you take your own Sandoz generic Oxycontin, they will NOT have it, they will only have the Mundipharma reformulation. I took mine and also on your forms you fill out for the hospital, make sure you write "I am allergic to the Mundipharma reformulation Oxycontin, I can only take the Sandoz generic and I have brought in my own supply". Make sure you label it with your name on it and only take the amount to tablets you will need for your stay, don't take any extra. I always keep a couple in my purse as well, just in case. Your not supposed to, but it makes me feel more secure. Also, tell anyone who asks that you only take the generic. I also like to spread the word to others so the info gets out! Hope this helps you get organised and good luck with the op, let us know how you get on.
Cheers!

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Sorry Trink I presume your in the US, & there's no generic of original formula available there. Those of us getting the generic made by Sandoz are in Australia, & is the original formula not the silicone crap sold by Purdue (USA) Mundipharma (Aus). Its disgusting that people suffering with terrible pain, have been totally neglected in the name of greed. Purdue were handed the perfect cover with all the media coverage on Oxycontin being abused... They had the whole market for 10yrs with a great product to treat pain, the last thing they wanted was to share it! When the patent ran out in US they launched their 'tamper proof OP formula' & made sure they prevented any other company manufacturing the original by having it banned.... This was approx 4yrs ago. If it was really all about saving lives & stopping junkies from messing with it, why did it take 3 yrs for them to change the formula in Australia? It actually was perfect timing as their patent ran out here the exact same time as they changed the formula in Aus.....Again giving them a new patent & whole market!!! Thankfully the Australian government didn't bow down to Mundipharma/Purdue to prevent generics of original formula...so after a few months Sandoz brought out their generic, not a minute to soon for those of us having terrible side effects & increased pain levels from OP formula. The research i have done in that time has shown me, patients on higher doses are having the most side effects from OP & the worst of it is pain increase-not getting full dose of medication as it doesn't always metabolize. Ive read posts from people informing that undigested tablet in stools are just the shell, but it doesn't have a shell. The medication is distributed throughout the whole tablet & releases only as the tablet is digested. I hope you & others in the States have found an alternative that works for you.

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