Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 9)
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I am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?

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HOUSE that's Ma'am LOL and SADIESURRENDER I meant 10mgs not 19!

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Once again Spyz, you hit it right! Hat's off to you sir!

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SADIESURRENDER, do you have ANY condition that would qualify you for pain management? If you could keep a steady stream of opiates in your system, that would help the depression....some hit different receptors and could make it worse....hydro and oxycodone do raise T levels in Thyroid, providing energy and enhance mood....they are actually non-narcotic and have a base (Thebaine) which is a stimulant...even 20mgs, once after breakfast and again after lunch.....would alleviate depression symptoms, keep your bowels regular and not keep you up all night.....if a pain doc gave you 4 19mgs a day......that would greatly help and I never noticed withdrawal symptoms on that low a dose....many SSRI meds can drive you nuts....if your goal isn't to feel high, you will not need higher and higher doses.......I started 6-7 yrs ago taking 6 30mgs a day and now that I refuse to take an extended release opiate, I can get by on 80-90 mgs a day! Great pain relief and excellent antidepressant which is due to aid to T levels....low thyroid can cause depression Good Luck!

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Spyz, LOL! Man you are soo right! I hate the one's that act so high and mighty cause they know that you need them. Now if we could only get the DEA out of the " practice " of medicine, MAYBE things would be better. I know this is not going to happen, too much money in it for the fed.ah well, one can dream. .....

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I too try to educate myself about new, old and off label medications that might be able to treat refractory depression. I search the Internet for any clinical trials that research the effects of new medications and experimental treatments that I may be able to participate in. I've applied for a couple of trials and so far I've been unsuccessful. Everyday I research approved medications that I haven't tried yet. During my appointment with my shrink, I give him the list of the meds which, I'm sure he's never heard of, or just never thought about trying them out. Usually he has to look most of them up in his drug book. I also tell him about the clinical trials that pertain to my illness. He likes when I do all the research because then he doesn't have to do it. With all the medications I've found, he has never prescribed one. He keeps talking about the usual antidepressants which do not help me. BIG PHARMA makes tons from antidepressants and I believe they push the doctors to prescribe medication that does not work for many, many people. Antidepressants are dangerous. Patients definitely become addicted to them because the withdrawal symptoms are so bad, you feel like you're going to die. I've never used illicit drugs before, but I've heard from several people in my support groups that struggled with opiate addiction that antidepressant withdrawal can be just as bad. And we have to endure horrifying side effects. I don't even know what the hell I'm saying or thinking anymore. I wish BIG PHARMA would start considering the well being of the minions who suffer from this potentially fatal disease and start pushing the FDA to approve medications that have been proven to alleviate depression symptoms. They won't because those medications will not make a huge profit for the BIG PHARMA fat cats. I'm so at the end of my rope and lost all hope of any type of cure or, at least, some type of relief from this pain. I pray everyday I don't find myself on the wrong end of that rope. It just gets harder and harder everyday and they just don't care. I'm thinking it might be time for another in patient hospital visit. Usually being in the hospital doesn't help all that much, but I'll be safe.

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HOUSE LOL I think they are mad because not only do we get our info free off the internet and they paid $100,000 in tuition LOL, but they stop learning once they graduated! We as patients are probably more aware of news meds, programs, laws, pain conferences etc. than they are....I had one N. P. shriek, "well I'm certified to do this"! I opened my folder full of my AMA, APA, CME, REM and other certification, waved my prescribing Liscenses in her face and said back, "Me too"! "Plus over 40 years research, what about you" yeah they like running out of the room.....it sucks having the qualifications to prescribe but no medical Liscence to attach it to

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I have only read some of the many comments.

I have taken Vicoprofen for over ten years. It has been life changing. Truly, life changing! I had tried most every pain killer on the market for my peripheral neuropathy. It kept me from having to put my feet in ice water before going to sleep each night. Also, getting up in the middle of the night to do the same. I was so,so grateful! I could go to a mall with my wife and walk for some time, once again. I have never increased the dose and have never gotten any "high" from it's use.

Just sayin.

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EXCELLENT points, people! And, sadly, you are right. Billions are made each and every year from the mass's? So why should they change? And the Dr's are just a step up from us. They aren't really profiting from the drugs themselves, that's BIG PHARMA. Yeah they get a few free lunches or dinners, and MAYBE a very small percentage for " pushing " a particular drug, but that's not even a drop in the bucket compared to BIG PHARMA. It is indeed a very sad and far reaching problem. I can't tell you how many " Dr's " I have absolutely driven to the brink with my limited knowledge of drugs, ESPECIALLY pain meds! I've gotten everything from a sly smile and " hey, you wanna fill in for me when I go on vacation? " to, " get the hell out of my office and don't come back! " lol....some, a very few, appreciate an educated patient, others, not so much. .well, thanks for reading, till next time, this has been HOUSE. Take care, take off, and be good to one another.

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Many treatment resistant depressives are actually Endogenous Deficient and need external opiates...Look up article Ignorance Kills and see if you fit the bill.. No you do not need to keep increasing dosages, that fear mongering media hype! As a Pain patient my optimum dose was 6/day of oxy 30mgs....For six years not only would it still work but stopping Fentanyl or any ER opiate helped me go down to 4/day.... Now with docs running scared-I even found a doable does of 15 or 20mg 6 a day every 4 hours being 90mgs or the same 120....6 years on this crazy train and no, you don't need higher and higher doses! I'm using it for pain, depression, vertigo, sinusitis, energy, mobility and more!

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Agree, i just had 2 teeth ripped out by my dental surgeon 3 days ago and could not get antibiotics again.. But he did prescribe me 5mg hydrocodone for pain. I have been unable to get medication for 2 years now since Gov. n ins. co. playing Dr. i only got 15 5mg tabs for pain of surgery but i finally have been able to move n im stretching them out as far as possible. My pain is worse in the morning plus i have a business that has been put off for so long. I can only take 1/2 a pill in the morning. My stitches still hurt but at least i can move with out falling down pain for sometime. It just gives me hope if we can stop the murdering thieving liying Gov. n buy off by ins. co. I can get my pain management specialist at least by next year if the pain does not give me a heart attack. I keep getting sent to hospitals which do nothing because my blood pressure is at stroke level. No s*** that's what pain does.

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SADIESURRENDER AMEN to that! They are unaware that most of us know the Lord and pray and have thousands of heavenly hosts on our side! LOL According to God we ARE Overcomers!

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Spyz, they treat us like animals. Only the strongest survive. Well I have news for the DEA, the FDA and any other organization that thinks that way. We are much stronger than any of them. We're still here despite them and we don't have to hide behind bureaucracy. We continue our personal battles with our illnesses and we usually do it alone. That's where real strength lies.

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Seriously, Levo? What kind of a moronic answer is that? How old are you? 12? This is a serious website with serious, grown up questions and if you don't have the maturity to answer with empathy and constructively, you don't belong on here. Think about that and how your answer could affect seriously ill fellow humans.

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My daughter suggested I try cannabis. My state does not allow medical marijuana so I'm screwed in that department. I would have to get it illegally and, besides not knowing how to go about getting it that way, I wouldn't want to. I feel like there is absolutely nobody who cares or wants to help me. Most of the psychiatrists aren't up-to-date with the meds and/or procedures that would possibly help. The politicians are no use because they're in the pockets of big Pharma who run the show. And don't get me started on the FDA. They don't believe in treatment resistant depression. Everyday I wish there was a way I could die to get away from this pain. I'm too afraid to do it myself. I went so far as to research ways that wouldn't hurt if I did try to kill myself. I was raised a Christian and it was drilled into my head that suicide is a mortal sin and I would go to hell. I used to think the pains of hell couldn't be as bad as the pain I endure every day with this disease. I used to pray and plead with God on my knees crying tears of pain, asking him to lift this burden. Not even to be cured. I would be happy if I just received some relief so I could feel joy and have some peace. People used to tell me there's a reason God gave me this burden. There was a time I believed in God the Father and that his son, Jesus, was our Lord and Savior with all my heart. I don't believe anymore. How could God who is supposed to love all his children ignore the constant prayers and pleading from one of his children who believed in him and his son and felt as though she would be saved by that belief, allow her to suffer to the point of wanting to end her life? Besides being afraid to do it, the only reason I don't is because I couldn't do that to my husband, children and grandchildren. I can't bear knowing they would be left with the guilt and sadness if I did kill myself. I just want the pain to end. Fighting everyday to stay alive and trying to believe that someday there will be help for me, is a lonely and exhausting fight...and now I don't even have my faith to fall back on. I'm so tired of thinking someday someone, somewhere would recognize this is a true disease and not something that was made up or that I'm just lazy. Someone who would care enough to at least seriously try to find something that would help give me my life back. Not one of these clinical trials that go on for years without any success or studies that show some promise, only to be shot down by the FDA. Deep down I know it's futile because to understand the constant unbearable pain, you have to go through it and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. So I guess I have to continue fighting until I have no strength left at all and just die. I wish my family didn't have to witness my deterioration. I feel like I'm a cancer patient except nobody will give me the medication I need to survive.

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Duh,its a opiate of course it's going to make you feel good. Duh!

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Greetings dear. I am so very sorry for your needless suffering. It really pisses me off, as I'm about in the same boat, a Christian, now just a daily prayer that his will be done. One thing that I tried was finding a renowned specialist in NY that was willing to let me share our correspondence with my doctor, as well offering a free phone consult with him. Not sure yet if this will work, but maybe it's worth a shot on your end. There are compassionate docs left, we just need to find them. Let me know if I can be of help, and you will certainly be on my prayer list. God bless

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TERRY, The only things I can think of is to remind our docs that all that mess is for Primary Care Docs not Pain Docs! Also remind them that years ago folks were getting 12, 18 and 20 pills a day. 120/mg a day is a Normal dose! Other than that we need to petition the courts to self dose... or like Dallas Buyers Club, start Pain Clubs! I want the freedom to take what I THINK are suitable dosages, not what a frightened I'll-equipped Pain Doc thinks....we need to protest and boycott meds that hurt us...I hate fentanyl but some find great help from it....we have to figure a way to WAKE UP PAIN DOCS to proper prescribing at to one every four hours not this six hour crap... That's only for opiate naive folks and I don't think any Baby Boomers are that LOK GOOD OLE 70's prepared us for higher doses...it's all pretty simple...DEA needs to be disbanded anyway...every time somebody finds something that helps (cannabis, poppies, now Kratom) they throw it into schedule 1! They WANT us sick and gone! Their plan is to eliminate those who can't be part of their labor force when NWO is here....

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I feel your frustration about the Drs. Starting you off on pain medicine and like you was finally getting some relief then they start taking away the only thing that made me feel somewhat better I was a more pleasant person to be around my family was glad to have the old me back again. Then my pain mgt. Dr started cutting my dosage down from 4 IR 30 mg oxycodone down to half that nothing for break through pain and now I feel like I'm slipping back to where I was before I was before I got the meds that helped me in the first place when I ask him he said the good ol DEA was watching everything the Pain Managment Clinics are perscribe to there clients. Now this is a legit Dr. And legitimate prescriptions I had a bad car accident and have several injuries to my back neck and pretty much ruined my knees I've had several operations, and the MRIS. To back my clams . What do we do when the DEA dictates what the Drs. And Pharmachys can't fill the medicine that works for the people who are suffering from chronic pain and tearing apart families. I'm not talking about the Killet drug Fentanal, that's what's killing people not a couple of pain meds taken as prescribed. Anyone got any answers

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A trick I found when I had a ton of allergy meds... including the inhaler! Since being on opies, I have been able to discontinue 5 meds but I remember using the inhaler for depression and energy....it's amphetamine based for difficult breathing..of opiates also help that as well...if withdrawal cause a histamine release then obviously opiates are an antihistamine... something they WERE once prescribed for! The history of opiates shows they were prescribed for just about everything depending on the dose! There was even the medical diagnosis of THINGS PERTAINING TO WOMEN! That would cover just about every Allenby from migraines to depression, fatigue, fibro etc., BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL MEDICINE! The new crap is killing us!

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Try cannibis I will make a believer out of you. I suffered from depression for as long as I can remember. I tried all the big Pharma drugs no help at all just making the more rich. So I tried Mother Nature and after my first dose was not feeling the debilitating effects of my depression. I'm not saying break the law but if the state you live in has medical canonic you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to at least check it out peace and good luck

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