Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 17)
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I am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?
Botero2015 your vomiting could be due to the acetaminophen in the percs, although I think opiates should be taken with food to avoid vomiting--but one thing media keeps leaving out regarding the hydrocodone overdoses is that usually it is caused by the acetaminophen in them--that will eat up your stomach
Yes you are correct I take only one pill daily but feel so much better without out the burden of pain I still love my job as professional Gardner. I have breathing allergy problems also . it helps me with a better sense of well being . No thanks to a to depressants,.
This is such an interesting post, how did you learn so much about the effects of Oxy and that you were deficient? I get a big boost in energy from Norco - but if I take too many -- like over 2 10/325's a day I will throw up or feel sick. Same with Percocet's. I can take 1 to 1.5 tabs a day and get a lot done, but any more and I feel sick to my stomach. I'd love to know more about the research around folks who have a low level of receptors (is that it?) a lot of these are located in the gut, btw, I just learned that. How interesting. Thanks for your post
Mark, then I am " doomed" to remain the rest of my life severely depressed. I have followed all the rules but I know politicians truly don't give a@#$!
The government is such a freaking mess. What can be done? All I want is to feel like a normal human being.
Jan it's not the doctors, it's the politicians in bed with big pharma that are the problem. Quality of life means nothing to either. It's all about profits, kickbacks, selling lies and control!
I also have been dx with severe depression since I was 17(I am65 now). I have jumped through every hoop the doctors presented me regarding antidepressant drugs and none worked. I can't tell you the amount of money I have spent on therapists and psychiatrists over the years. After knee replacement I realized after a few months that the heavy depressed feeling lifted. I was scared art first because I knew the rules were that you can't have opiates for longer than so many weeks after surgery. I don't understand why doctors aren't interested in helping the patient with pain ( and after a lifetime of depression) they wouldn't be interested in helping with that.
Of course I know there's abuse out there.
Depression is a hideous way to live out your life....big Pharma is in control. For God's sake can't someone have some compassion.
The very first prescription I got I ate 6 and waited, and waited and the only thing that happened was two loads of laundry done, lunch made, walked the dog, and vacuumed. Ok that was 5 years ago. I guess I'm lucky for not feeling them since my dose is still 6 a day. Unfortunately I'm only prescribed 4 a day so I too run out early but Praise God, very, very minimum withdrawal. No doubt the debt patch helps me avoid w/d. Oxycodone is one of the safest drugs out there and has no cap. You can take as many as you need as long as the side effects don't bother you. I also don't have any of those either. I think it's because of such a low dose. I know I'm eds (endogenous deficient) 4-6 a day barely register in my body. How can you have a side effect or withdrawal from something that your body doesn't even know was ever there? Oxycodone is made from synthetic Thebaine. Thebaine is the ONLY NONNARCOTIC part of the poppy and is in fact a stimulant. It was used for depression for centuries and called Hul Gil-Plant of Joy/Gift from God.
You are absolutely correct that hydrocodone Does INDEED Alleviate depression symptoms. And I am thrilled to have someone else talk about it. There's no secret that many drugs that Are originally created for one thing, have turned out to work great for another problem. I have been afraid to tell my Dr. About this for fear she would take them away. I do wake up with back pain, I am 60 years old, however for the last 18 years I have been on every anti-depressant made and nothing has worked. Until I was put on hydrocodone for pain. I am careful though, I take 2 pills in the morning when I awaken, 10-325. I have not experienced withdrawal from being without them if I am out. But I do experience the depression symptoms again. I hate what depression did to my life and the rest of my family members ( my son ) . I don't ever want to go there again full force. I'd rather be dead and I often thought of it during the depression that I could not escape from.
Acetamenophen is probably one of the biggest problems from overdosing on opiates that contain it (Vicodin, etc..) I knew an addict who took up to 60 Vicodin a day, I don't know what happened to her, but I would assume she definitely destroyed her liver. Also, there seems to be a lot of middle aged women who end up overdosing and dying from opiates in the past several years. But, I still think there is something to opiates and treating depression. There are tons of medications out there that when are dangerous but with the correct usage can be miraculous (example Botox, which is a poison). I hope that there are researchers out there that are looking into using this (opiates) medication for depression.
Geez some of you guys are really light weight!!! For the last 10 yrs. I've been taking oxycodone 30 mgs & morphine 30 mgs to back the oxy. 4 oxy p/day & 3 morphine p/day. Needless to say after I got use to them...it was nothing to take 8 oxys at once. Yeah I ran out way too early & actually had to go through withdrawal. Fellows thats something u wouldn't wish on ur worse enemy. And it can last from 4 to 8 days. Depending on what & how much. Those of u who are amazed at it relieving ur depression... come on! Of course u don't feel depressed... your high! Hydrcodone may be weaker than oxy, but it is what it is...an opiate. You can have withdrawals with it to. My dr put me on oxy because most hydrocodone (Lortab, vicadan, Tylenol #3, etc.) all have acetaminophen in them U know it says 10/350...well the 350 is of acetaminophen. If u don't know & have scripts for hydrocodone....Acetaminophen destroys ur liver. I know I have cirrhosis. So while ur enjoying relief from depression thru opiates...don't let the fact that its destroying ur body stop u. Oh yea...I got off everything. Much more depressed; no energy BUT I'M ALIVE. The thing that got me was gastroperinesis (probably spelled wrong) but basically the opiates cause constipation & basically slows body functions. When u eat, food should be out of your stomach by 1 to 2 hours. I was rushed to hospital thinking it was either stroke or hear attack. After extensive evaluations they found when I ate it took over 5 hours & my stomach still wasn't empty. I had such horrible acid reflux from this. It can cause ulcers, the food can actually rot in ur stomach & poison you. Trust me when I say nobody loved opiates more than me. I'm bipolar & they helped that even. But please be realistic when ur turning to them for depression. At some point you've got to take more. Everybody builds a tolerance. And even tho u feel so good when u take them; trust me ur paying a high price. Basically I forgot how to live without them. But honestly when I had them I slept most of day & was too messed up to drive. Good luck & if nothing else get rid of the acetaminophen!
Without question, it helps depression, and I only take 1 per day. I have for 4 years, and have not seen any "need" to increase the dosage. My day starts at 7 am and ends at 12 am. I take 1 at about 8 am and wow, what a depression relief. I am prescribed it for stenosis and nerve damage between the L5 and L6, and it alleviates that as well. I also do PT and home exercises which also may explain only needing 1 pill per day. Currently going through a divorce, mountain of debt, and just lost my job, so I guess depression won't be going away soon!!!
Read The Opiate Cure by doctor Robert Cochran
I've found this is absolutely true. My daughter developed severe anxiety and was diagnosed with PTSD after having her pancreatitis misdiagnosed as "anxiety" when she was 26. Another attack of pancreatitis two weeks later was also misdiagnosed as anxiety--her own doctor's PA made the mistake of consulting with the ER doc who saw her for the first attack and so just went with that misdiagnosis. That time, however, she insisted on a blood test which is when they discovered she had pancreatitis. However, the damage was done. The Nurse Practitioner therapist she had been sent to for her non-existent anxiety promptly overdosed her on Cymbalta in spite of the warnings about it which indicate that it is risky for young adults to take. When I say "overdosed," I mean she prescribed her a 33% higher dose than the strongest recommended dose. My daughter developed serotonin syndrome which led to severe anxiety and an eventual diagnosis of PTSD as a direct result of taking so much Cymbalta. She was removed from it "cold turkey" and, though her PCP told her to have the NP give her Xanax to help her through the withdrawal, the NP accused her of drug-seeking when my daughter told her what her PCP had said. She subsequently tried other medications (antidepressants and anti-anxiety) and discovered that ALL of them gave her either serotonin syndrome, grand mal or petit mal seizures. However, when she had to take opioids in subsequent situations (a broken arm, a damaged knee, a back injury after a fall from a horse, etc.) she found that they helped her anxiety tremendously. The relief was tremendous and the only thing that's every alleviated the anxiety--but obviously no doctor will prescribe opioids for anxiety. And so, through no fault of her own, she's been suffering the aftereffects of the NP's malpractice for 8 years with no end in sight.
You are so right
This is the bottom line:)
I am not a doctor so this is not medical advice only free information: centuries ago opiates were considered Hul Gil -God's Gift to Man. They were also the first all natural antidepressant. Opiates were deemed dangerous because fair skinned, blue eyed, flaxen haired women took up with negroes and chinamen. You can come to your own conclusion but IMHO opiates should be otc at Walmart. Also some of us who are considered 'treatment resistant' to antidepressants are actually endogenous deficient and should be able to take them as any other nutrient or vitamin.
Same here, just feel nirmal and can function well, and yes the gov needs to stay out if the medical profession and just let our doctors treat us as they are trained professionals not the gov.
Yes, this is also true for me, they've worked for me for years. I'm actually going back to see my pain specialist again tomorrow, He decided to put me on dilaudid, totally intolerably to them, or methadone, or oxytocin, or oxycodone that whole family of meds make me feel like crap. I feel great with the hydrocodone only, pain is relieved, I have energy and not depressed at all, I can function great! and we're not the only ones out there that would agree. Its the Tylenol that is dangerous and is why he wanted to change my meds
Have severe anxiety take slprazolam .5
It calms me. Hours
Hydrocodone relieves pain from spinal stenosis
And makes me feel happy
Been suffering from gad for 15 years
It's horrible panic attacks
Anyway hydrocodone wirks well but also afraid of addiction
I'm just careful
I've noticed that my oxycodone definitely relieves my depression. But I'd have to say the reason is obvious. The pain I suffer is demobilizing. Therefore my meds removes my pain and thus the reason for my depression. I don't think the reason is directly related to chemical reaction on the brain as it is a byproduct of feeling good and your brain taking note. I do realize that eather way you get the same results. But if your thinking opioids are going to be prescribed for depression, don't bet on it. Remember euphoria (the other way they relieve depression) from opioids isn't sustainable.
You will eather have to constantly increase the dose to maintain that state which will lead ultimately to your death! Or, if you are taking the same dose, your body will get immune to the euphoric effect. ( such as me) and the euphoria (antidepressant effect) is gone.
Just a quick Yes to your question! ! I have chronic issues that cause discomfort.. the hydro definitely help , however I think its only because they are bringing pain level to a managable spot..
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