Switching From Xanax To Valium (Page 4)
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PLEASE HELP! For the past 7yrs I've been on 1mg Xanax (3x) per day for anxiety and panic attacks. I take my dosage of Xanax as prescribed by my Dr unless I have a severe panic attack, then I may take an additional (1-2) 1mg xanax when I'm actually having a severe full blown panic attack to stop it. I've been on other Benzos before but Xanax seems to be the only thing that stops the panic attacks when I'm having them. Recently my Dr decided to switch me from 1mg Xanax (3x) per day to 10mg of Valium (2x) per day because he says Valium is "stronger" and has a longer half life than Xanax. He says the Xanax isn't working for my anxiety anymore. From what I've read on the Internet about Xanax vs Valium is that Xanax works better than Valium for panic attacks. I like to mention I have a phobia of taking new medications. I stressed my concerns to my Dr that my anxiety isn't as much of issue for me as my Panic Attacks. He said not to worry cause the Valium is stronger. Then I asked him what if while I'm taking the Valium I suffer a sever panic attack? What do I do to stop the panic attack? His responce was that I could take a 1/2 of a 10mg Valium tablet to stop the panic attack. I wanted to tell him that from what I knew, Valium is slower acting and that I didn't agree 1/2 of a 10mg is going to stop my panic attacks but I didn't want to question his professional expertise over my Internet findings. I know he's the Dr and the Dr knows best right? So I guess to finally get to my point is I'm terrified to start the Valium because im afraid that when I have a panic attack and I say WHEN and not IF cause it's only a matter of when I will have a full blown sever panic attack what would I do to stop it? From reading up on Valium I know it wont help stop my panic attack like the Xanax will. I asked my Dr before I left his office that while I'm on the Valium and I have an attack could I take a Xanax to stop the attack? He said absolutely not! He said if I have a panic attack while on valium I can take a 1/2 of my 10mg Valium. I didnt say this to my Dr but I know from what I read about Valium is that it won't stop an attack as fast as Xanax will. I dont know what to do? Im so scared and I feel helpless cause I feel like my Dr isn't getting what im saying. My panic attacks can last as long as 2 hours or more. I know because my longest panic attack was while I was driving through the desert and realized I forgot to pack my Xanax. 2 hours in to my attack after trying breathing techniques and what not I had to taken to a hospital by ambulance cause my heart rate went up way to high and so did my blood pressure. My panic attacks can lead to an ambulance ride to the hospital. I feel like my Dr is focusing on treating my anxiety more than my panic attacks which are of greater concern to me at this time. I read on line that other people have been prescribed both Xanax and Valium to be taken as needed. Valium for anxiety and Xanax for panic attacked. I spoken to 3 pharmacists who tell me that I can take the Valium and if I should have a major panic attack I could take a Xanax no problem because they're both Benzos but only on the occassions when I'm having a bad panic attack. Why couldn't my Dr just say that? I know some of you may read this and say that I just have an addiction to Xanax. Honestly that would be further from the truth. If I knew that Valium would stop my sever panic attacks I would switch in a heart beat but from what I'm reading I know Valium won't help with an attack as fast as Xanax will. I'm not looking for the Xanax "kick" some people love to feel or to have a feeling of Ephoria. I just want a reliable medication to treat my disorder. I want to trust that my Dr knows what's best for me but only I know what my body and mind is going through and I somehow can't get him to understand! If anyone has had the same problem as me or can offer any support or advise I'd love to hear what you have to say. Has anyone ever taken both medications in the same manner im suggesting or together at the Sametime? How did it make you feel? We're you able to cope and how? Please anything will help. I know there has to be other people out there experiencing or have experienced the same thing. Thanks.

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I guess different benzodiazepenes work differently on different people. I take Restoril 30 mg at bedtime and valium 10 mg twice a day. The only other tranquilizer that i can tolerate is Xanax, but here's the strange part: Xanax leaves me feeling like my brain has been numbed the next day, and i'm so hung over. Really weird valium never did this to me, but remains in your system so much longer. Klonepin really over sedated me with the smallest amounts, and ativan makes me sicker than a dog with nausea included. This is very interesting that valium does not work on you, as for me it's the one that i can tolerate the best. Like i said, i like xanax too, but i'm too hung over the next day to justify being prescribed that. The strange part is everyone else says just the opposite. And Restoril leaves people with a hell of a hangover. I wake up refreshed and feeling like i slept for 12 hours. I used to take Dalmane, and after going thru the hangovers with that, Restoril was a blessing. Restoril is generically called Temazepam. I can also use Halcion, but like xanax, the hangover is awful, and with halcion i find next day nausea to be a real problem. I had the most horrid sleepwalking with Ambien back in 1995, the doctor thought i was lying just to get benzos, as it was so new, people were not reporting this problem. So I don't dare to take any sleeping pill other than restoril or halcion or dalmane, however dalmane leaves you tired really bad the next day. I first was given valium in 1975 when i was a child. I had the worst anxiety and insomnia, they also gave me dalmane as a little boy. and this was after i was poked and prodded in every imaginable way.

My parents didn't just let me go on these drugs until it was absolutely certain nothing else would work. I am not low class at all, I am educated, but I am a very rare person who has needed to take benzodiazepenes since i was 6. I once forgot to take them with me on vacation, thought my vacation would be ruined with withdrawls, but to my amazement none whatsoever, and i was on vacation, so anxiety was not an issue, and i really didn't care if i slept or not. I say everyone is different. Your doctor should've known that what works for one may work the opposite for others. Klonepin at a very tiny dose made me so drunk i could not write my name. For others it works miracles, and i've seen people drunk on the tiniest amount of valium. I'd steer clear of that doctor if he cannot understand that what works for one will not necessarily work for the other. My mother took xanax most of her life when she was alive. They worked great for her, and she NEVER got addicted, just like me. During her last two months they (under my great disapproval) took her off all benzos in the hospital and she never once withdrew. I really believe if you take them for a legitimate reason you won't get addicted. It's those who abuse them that turn into the addicts. For me, Valium is a medicine that greatly improves my quality of life. It does not make me drowsy in the least bit, I could take ten (i've never done that) and i would not "feel" it like i would xanax. but for another person, it could just be the opposite. Remember, it was 1975 that i was put on valium, back then there was no xanax, and the addictive qualities were not well known. These drugs were presented as miracle drugs. Valium was wildly popular, in the 80s everyone had a bottle in their medicine cabinet, and towards the late 80s that bottle turned to xanax. I don't see the big deal in xanax, it makes me so tired. Your doctor was just trying to help you, but sometimes, you know, they try too hard. If my doctor ever tried to take me off valium, i'd fire him so fast it's not funny. Just because some abuse it and get addicted doesn't mean i will. I've told him i'd submit to an evaluation any time so they can check the level in my blood.

I NEVER abuse my medicines, they are too precious to me for that. Doctors need to realize that drugs work differently for different people. If you don't get what you want, do as i do and don't pay the bill. Why should you pay the bill if you don't get what you want? You can even request your insurance stop payment to him, i've done it before, they get the message, they need to eat too. My doctor wanted to stop my benzos and i told him if he thought that i'd pay for 4 dollar a gallon gas to see him and not get what i want and pay his bill he has another think coming. Too many times i've had the most horrible reactions off new medicines. I understand where you're coming from when you say valium was bad for you and xanax was great, my mom was exactly like that, only she did take valium before xanax because that's all there was at the time. Your physician should be more understanding to your situation. You have to pay for these prescriptions that don't work, subtract the money paid from his bill and give him that with an explanation as to why. If he doesn't understand, you need a new doctor. It's not true the new ones won't prescribe benzos, they will if they think you're addicted, they don't want you to sue them when you get withdrawl symptoms. And you may find a very understanding doctor too. I am diabetic type 1 by the way. Maybe that's why valium is so much better? I don't question it, i know from experience what works. Tell the doctor outside of phenobarbital, or secobarbital, xanax is the ONLY one that works. Be stubborn too. The lesser of the two evils is Xanax. Barbiturates are very dangerous, and seldom prescribed. Too many people killed themselves with them, and with benzos, you'd have to take well over one thousand to kill you, at best a bottle will just put you into a coma, with the exception of temazepam and triazolam (halcion), overdosing on these is very dangerous. If you need help sleeping ask for Restoril. They are a miracle for me

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You do not get messed up from valium . I took zanex foe years , but I switched to valium . I feel so much better , I can actually sit down for hours now and be still. It is a much better drug for general anxiety .

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I hope i have the good experience you had with the switch. I was on 1mg Xanax x3 a day for 8 years. My dr weened me down to 1 and a half mg Xanax 1 time a day. I started having withdrawals i guess, just my emotions a wreck so he switched me to 10mg Valium x2 a day. only on my second day of the switch. my back started hurting don't know why. But i am gonna stick with it and hope it works, cause if i can live with out the Xanax for panic/anxiety i will be glad to!

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Hi Bob. Well, I have found that Valium is less addictive and has a much longer half life. To be honest...if you slowly damper down your xanax for a couple of months and switch to 10mg of Valium every 12 hours, the transition is pain-free. Also, you can go up to 3 weeks without taking it before actually feeling withdrawals. The hardest part is lowering the dosage of xanax to the point where you can switch over to Valium...that requires a little work on your stress levels.

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It's good to see a new entry. I rarely check this site anymore due to lack of new information about this topic. I want to
Know what is the advantage of switching from xanax to Valium? Taking 2 doses .50 xanax twice a day which totals
1mg. Or taking 20 mg of Valium? They are both in the same class of drugs.

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Hell everybody. It seems as though people have improved or moved on since the last post was back in 2013, however I guess I`ll give this a go. My name is Ken, I was born and raised in Pennsylvania, then moved to Florida, and afterwards to Brazil. I have a son here, and now this place has become home. Okay, so in 2010, I was walking down the street with a friend, when suddenly I felt this strange feeling in upper abdomen, it seemed as though my heart was pumping blood in a strange way to several different directions, and it instantly caused me to curl over. I was convinced that I was having a heart attack. I went to the ER, and the doctor told me I was having a panic attack. At the time, I didn`t fully understand panic syndrome. So, I was prescribed Ativan. That didn`t work so well, even though the mg was low (.50). What I thought was really strange was the fact that I have this strange dizzy feeling whether I am on the medication or not, and it started within minutes after I had the first panic attack.

So, in 2011, I returned to the USA for about a year and three months, and was prescribed xanxa, .50mg twice a day as needed. Well, that was going well, but after a short amount of time, I became addicted, and reliant on this medication. I will admit that I did take a little more than prescribed at first because I enjoyed the feeling, but then...I ran out. BIG MISTAKE. It is a hell being on withdrawals from xanax. It is unexplainable actually. So, that "abuse" stage came and went quickly needless to say. Okay, so despite all of this, I still have a very strange dizziness, and it hasn`t let up, even a little. So, I returned to Brazil, and since xanax is so costly down here, and the government gives Diazepam for free (Valium) I switched to Valium. For me, it was the best thing possible. I only took it twice a day ( 10MG X 2) Sometimes I would forget to take it, and nothing happened. It was definatley the lesser of two evils. HOWEVER I must add, that as of recently, I ran out of medication, and making a doctors' appointment here in Brazil isn`t easy, especially with Psych docs. So, no doctor visit, no rX. I literally had to go to the ER every day for a week in order to function. So, moral of the story...Taper down your xanx to just .50 twice day before making the switch to valium. Try your best to not miss Dr appoinments. Dont be ashamed of who you are or your problems. It`s really not a big deal to be honest. More people have this problem than you think. DO NOT drink booze while on the medication. If you want to drink, skip a dose. I drank a bottle of wine once while on Valium...OH MY GOD not good. Trust me.

Xanax is very addicting and although it`s magical, it really can cause some scary side effects and withdrawal symptoms. Words cannot express the sensation. I must advise you to avoid xanax if possible.

PS) I am really happy to have read your stories. I hope that my experiences have helped you. I would like to know if anybody else has had a strange dizziness since their first panic attack. I hope to hear from you. If not, perhaps God has blessed you with peace and serenity. Take care-

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I feel weird all the time, I have anxiety. I have not had a full on attack but have had some of the symptoms that lead up to it, but with me what works is one pill in the morning and one pill around two or three. By the time I go to bed I am okay. Unless I stay up late then I may our may not need another. If you can manage to go to bed at a decent hour you will likely be sleeping which means your won't know your symptoms are weird. I try to only take them as needed outside the two times a day. Don't know if that will help you but it's with a try.

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Everyone needs to know the importance of vitimin d in all illness including anxiety. almost all of us is low on d and no one knows. low affects the brain vit d is a nuron protector and it is involved in every cell in the body including the brain get out into the mid day sun or take d 3 utube vit d and watch dr horlick and canell

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This is very simple and
IN TEN DAYS YOU'RE OFF XANAX WITHOUT ANY DISCOMFORT AND YOU WON'T BE ADDICTED TO KLONOPIN aka CLONAZEPAM!

If you were not educated on the facts of Xanax and were taking more than 4mg a day for a long time and you really want off the Xanax and benzos in general,

with THIRTY (1mg) Clonozepam do this:

Take 1 (4x a day) for 4 days
Take 1 (3x a day) for 3 days
Take 1 (2x a day) for 2 days
Take the last 1 on day ten
AND YOU'RE FREE OF XANAX
and you shouldn't have to take anything else.

I was in such bad shape I never thought that would work but it saved my life.

IT WORKED FOR ME

and while I have taken Xanax again, I've never been physically addicted to it since I learned how to get off of it.

IT WORKED FOR ME AND THERE WAS NO DISCOMFORT!
I ACTUALLY FELT GREAT (NOT HIGH) THE ENTIRE TIME.

On day 11, when I wasn't supposed to take anything, by then I already could tell I was going to be fine and I was.

Pass that on to someone who doesn't know what to do. By all means, ask your Dr if it will work for ppl who've been taking a lot of Xanax everyday.

MUCH EASIER THAN TAPERING OFF XANAX AND ITS OVER IN 10 DAYS!!

Be responsible and be careful! Best of luck to everyone!

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About your Xanax addiction I thought I'd ask for advice. I'm currently on 3mg alprazolam daily reduces from 10mg since September 2013, I can cope on 2mg a day but should I reduce my dose next script from 2mg tab 1.5 daily to 1mg alprazolam twice daily, as I live in Australia am on suboxen smoke and smoke pot. I've only been taking them full on since April 2013, can you recommend suggest what I do. Much appreciated

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I apologize if I come across rather blunt. I'm having an issue now and I don't wish to offend anyone. Anyone comparing benzodiazepines like, 20mg of Valium = .5mg of Xanax isn't just irresponsible, it's completely inaccurate.

I was on 10mg Valium 3x a day for ten years.

Then I was on 2mg Xanax 3x a day for 3-4 years.

Then 1mg clonozepam 2x a day for 3-4 years.

Then my Dr died a few months ago! They didn't follow procedure and I cannot get my records released, etc. etc. but that's besides the point.

I used to think Valium was the best for panic attacks. Then I thought Xanax was the best. The fact is, whatever you have in your system right now isn't going to work as well as the one you haven't taken in a long time or you haven't taken at all.

Also, Valium works amazingly for me only when I take it on an empty stomach. It starts working in LESS THAN 30 MINUTES!

When I was on Xanax on a regular basis, it didn't work for panic attacks unless I doubled the dose. That's not good! Anyone seeing a pattern here?

It's all about the tolerance you build up with Benzodiazepines!

What worked very well for me after 17 years of this anxiety nightmare was taking my 10mg Valium 3x a day and THEN SKIPPING A DAY ALL TOGETHER. I took it 3x a day EVERY OTHER DAY and it was amazing.

With Xanax and Clonozepam it was basically the same thing. Every other day and your tolerance doesn't spike.

Xanax was never meant to be prescribed for long term anxiety!!! 2 weeks max. So why take it everyday? These are not miracle drugs ppl? They all have they pros and cons. With Xanax, the con is the short half life and how you will become defendant on it in a few weeks. Not possibly but assuredly addictive!

I stopped Xanax and didn't think I was addicted. A week later I knew I WAS NEVER ADDICTED. At the end of week 2 and no meds at all, my muscles started to twitch, I'd wake up as if someone slammed a door by my bed. I'd jump out of bed because my startle response was out of whack!

Then the nightmares started! Then the waking nightmares started. This all started 2 full weeks after I stopped taking Xanax and I wasn't taking ANY FORM OF MEDICATION. I felt great for 2 weeks and the withdrawal kicked in.

That was in 2004 and to this day I leave the ringers on my home and cell phone off as much as possible because they make me jump out of my skin.

There are a lot of people out there who don't seem to be in touch with their bodies enough to tell what is causing the anxiety. If your taking Xanax everyday, 3-4mg a day, as a result of the short half life THE XANAX IN YOUR SYSTEM WILL INCREASE YOUR ANXIETY LEVELS.

In a perfect world, I think people would respond well to 5mg Valium or 1mg Clonozepam every day with a few 2mg Xanax FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY.

When I was on Valium all the time, Xanax did not have an effect on me. That can be said for any combination of benzodiazepines for the most part. Maybe it's just me, but saying 20mg of Valium is equal to .5mg of Xanax is ridiculous mainly because it depends on what you have the most of in you system at that time.

For a while, before my Dr dyed, we tried Valium for 1-2 months then Xanax for 1-2 months, and back to Valium so my system never had a chance to really get used to either one.

And don't take Valium on a full stomach. It's going to work very slowly or not well at all. Xanax simply wears off way too fast.

It's also worth stating that Men and Woman react totally different to medications like these. Maybe it's because I'm male?

Either way I'm super stressed and anxious now that my Dr of 17 years dyed and I can't get my records. So, I can't just walk into a Dr's office in the new city I'm in with proof of my medical history. What's worse, I simply don't have the patience to deal with the local Dr's looking at me like a drug shopper.

I tapered myself off 8 Norco per day, 2-3 (1mg)Clonozepam a day & 3 (10mg) Ritalin a day ON MY OWN. My Dr dyed so I had no choice and I had no clue when I would find another Dr.

Now I'm off of all of it and I didn't have withdrawals because I tapered off very slowly. HOWEVER, I need to be back on my meds and it doesn't have to be the same quantity BUT it's obvious to me I need what I need to lead a productive life without curling up into a ball every time something triggers my anxiety.

I'm so frustrated and I'm no having luck with new Dr's.

People always say you can get anxiety meds from online. IF SO, I'd greatly appreciate a link or phone number to a trustworthy solution to the problems the Dr's office caused by not referring me to another Dr before he dyed. They knew he was ill and had a stroke but kept seeing patience with a Physicians Assistant handling his patient load. Please let me know of an online solution to my problem if possible. I'm no drug addict. My Dr and friend simply passed away and the new school of Dr's is pissing me off trying to get me to take medication that's too expensive and doesn't work as well. Cymbalta is a joke for me. I do well with meds that are tried and have been around forever for a reason. They work!

If anyone can help me, let me know. Please? Thank you and good luck to all my brothers and sisters out there fighting the good fight to be anxiety free! Much love and positivity to you all.

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Rick said: " If someone is one a fairly high dose of a potent benzo or GABA medicaton, there is always the real fear of running out. That in itself must produce some real anxiety. I would bet that anyone who has taken them for any length of time has run up against running out. Again, that would be very worrisome!


Rick very interesting comment. I found after many years of use, Xanax and the quest for Xanax can be overwhelming. I was just trying to explain this recently to my Doctor who has never taken a pill yet gives them out like pez. Of course now I have a few thousand pez, the 2 mg kind and I'm not worried about running out. Plus I actually take less now, its poison which I do know.

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I've been reading this thread with great interest. A few contributors are right on .. others not so much. Xanax, Valium, Ativan, Klonopin - or any benzodiazepine for that matter - aren't "cures" for panic or anxiety. At best, they're band-aids. The benzos cover up symptoms. However, like almost all use of addictive drugs, using a benzo becomes a mal-adaptive coping method, not a treatment. Maybe most here are truly disinterested in alternatives to medications. That's a shame - coping techniques, CBT skills, relaxation exercises, and plain practice are treatments (and sometimes eventually cures) for anxiety disorders. Pills work - for a while ...

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U people are nuts xanax Is as addictive as H and valium works perfectly fine. was on xaniez for yrs and valium is soooo much better!

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Gunther, and what a stupid name that must be in your Country, like our version of Gomer. In any case why would you call us stupid Americans, when this forum is truly an international forum. Secondly Ativan is the worst, almost caused a stroke and DEATH for me!

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Suing your doctor sounds like a great idea if you don't care about seeing another doctor. Many docs in this day of retarded litigation, won't see patient's who sue doctors for reasons such as this. Sounds to me like you got yourself in this fix when you got addicted to the Xanax. No one twisted your arm to prevent your tapering and quitting. People do this all time time. If you sued anyone, it should be the idiot who started you on the Xanax. However, it would not surprise me if you had something to do with encouraging this first doctor to start you on it because it helps you survive through your day. I am tired of you folks who try and blame your doctors. You are big people. Start taking responsibilities. I don't think you can blame anyone but yourself.

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Switching to Ativan from Xanax will not cause strokes.

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Americans! You all think you have something wrong with you just because you have a little anxiety. It is interesting in parts of the world where life is a bit more harsh, nobody has time to sit around and worry about their anxiety. Give me a break. Nothing but a bunch of whiners. Do you think your grandpa ever acted incapacitated because he was having "a panic attack". No! He picked himself up and got back to work like a human being should. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Kind of hard to read your post but it sounds like the Doctor made fun of you. Telling them you were popping Xanax like Tic Tacs would get you cut off if our Country.

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Hello,
I'm an australian citizen and have been taking Zanax since 06/07/2013, I was reducing off my dose and my head thought it was a brillant idea. Don't get me wrong I'm on suboxne been on it 28 maths changed my life don't use needles. But I knew I was addicted when I experienced my first withdrawl on October 22 2014. I had not ran out, I tried to see how long I could hold off, at this time I was off suboxne for 3 weeks in 3 weeks I had had some H 2 days in a row FULLY sTOPPED after that. Recommended opiated replacme t program my dose 32 mg as I have done lot s of reading of people's views thoughts possibilities and reality and fact.

Since NOV 2013 till now I have decreased a full 2 mg and in 30 days I informed my doctor I wished to reduce, on ever occasion he has been very direct and helpful and nice, When I went in there today for my consultation I encountered a Dr that appreaed to be Really not interested. Now he has been my doctor for 3 years I came clean and said I was abusing them in JUNE-JULY popping like tick tacks.
So the day for asked for help I was willing to go into a chemist and pick them up it was a safer thing for me and the medical administration also. The chemist staff are wonderful.

On my consultation to today I was thrown a comment saying In his opinion that I would be on zanax for life. I'm a very strong man, I have had to learn to survive adapt to my life as I was in addiction. Now my problem is I want to know when I should cross over to a longer lating half life. Also I'm at the stage where I take them as I'm prescribed but I'm no couch bum I get out there and am extremely fit,
Should I go to as in 6 maths I have halved my dose. Please help I'm genuine I miss being clean and around the 12 step fellowship. I'm patient as recovery can't be rushed but I need advice help

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