Suboxone / Heroin Withdrawal (Top voted first)

I would like to know if I can take Suboxone for 3 or 4 days to wean off my heroin addiction? I don't want to replace one habit for another. Will I be alright?

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First off i am going to tell you anything is possible, i know that your reading these people's replies and thinking "oh, man its not that easy, and i was hoping for this as a way out." Which lemme tell you, in essence it is good advice because it may lead to you seeking and finding the assistance you need to be clean and sober for an extended amount of time. But i will also say this, I am 24 years old and have grappled with addiction to every form of powerful opiates out there. From poppy tea to oxycontin and heroin, and every other opiate in between. And i have beat it twice since i was 18. Each time i did it with a rope in my mouth (just powering through the withdrawals) and no it was not fun, but after a week of torture it certainly does deter someone from using again anytime soon, but i would move to another state and start a new life, find a smokin' hot girl and i'de be happy as Bob Marley on the beaches of Jamaica. Then as a year or two would pass ide start remembering the sweet rush that a pile of dope would offer a young fellow such as myself. Each time it was 'just rekindling a love affair with an old friend,' but each time it would quickly spiral our of control into a dark and soul sucking depraved desperate addiction. At the end of 2010 i got clean again from a very large heroin habit by utilizing two 8mg suboxone, i was told that with a little willpower and some help from the subs that i would pull through and i did. I weened of the subs taking 4mg 3mg 2mg 1mg till the two pills were gone. 4 days after the subs were gone i felt the same as the 1st day off them. That feeling was general crappyness, but nothing near the pain ive put myself through going cold turkey in the past. So i would recommend seeking help, but i would not count out the power of your own ability to control your destiny. You need to be absolutely strong and reinforce your decision by telling yourself that you are doing something almost nobody else ever pulls off. And i also dont suggest becoming a maintenance user of suboxone or anything else for that matter. Being on other drugs supervised by a professional is a step up as opposed to illicit drug use. But keep in mind that you don't need that. You may think you do and doctors may say you do, but they make a ton of money off of suboxone and in essence, the doctors become your drug dealers to set themselves up for early retirement. A few subs and get clean and don't look back sister. Out of sight, out of mind. Never underestimate the resilience of the human mind, body, and spirit. You may think you need this or that, or that you cant do this or that. That will always be false, no matter what ever you plug in for 'that.' You can do whatever you put your mind to. Remember what it was like to be a kid and have the whole world ahead of you. Years of drug abuse haven't deleted my intelligence or will to suck every drop of life out of this beautiful world. God bless ya, you know what you gotta do.

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dude be careful with suboxone...all you need is like 2-3 strips(pills)..let me explain why..

1)Suboxone is 100 times stronger than smack

2)It can be ADDICTING (so please use it to get off and not to substitute one habit for another)

3)If you take it for more than a week you will get suboxone withdrawals (which last 7-14 days) trust me i know what im talking about dont take this as a joke you will suffer...

A lot of people i know who took subs for too long actually went through "suboxone withdrawal" which took a very long to go away due to a VERY LONG HALF-LIFE...most of them went back to H because instead of suffering for 2 weeks from suboxone withdrawal they could just suffer for 3-5 days coming of H cold turkey.

NOW HOW TO TAKE IT

WAIT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY START FEELING SICK BEFORE TAKING SUBOXONE!!!

1)12-24 hours after your last dose of H.

2)Take 1st strip of Suboxone and cut it in 2pcs.(1 half in the morning....another half at night) DONT TAKE THE WHOLE THING 8mg is too much!!! DONT LISTEN TO WHAT DOCS ARE SAYING, THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY!!!

3)Next day..take your 2nd strip and cut it into 4 pieces..this should last you 2 DAYS...1 pc in the AM 1 in the pm.

4)After you finished your 2nd strip...3rd strip should be cut into 6 pieces, and that should last you 3 days..same pattern as last 2 strips you took (1 in the am and 1 in the pm)

5)After you finished your 3 strips you should be feeling ok..little to no dope sickness...

PLEASE GIVE THIS A SHOT..ITS WORTH IT BELIEVE ME.

hope all of you guys get better stay off this evil drug its only going to ruin your life and everyone who is around you.


GOD BLESS YOU

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This reply is totally correct.Im a drug counselor and this was the original protocol.Suboxone was meant to be a short detox.You also can take take 4mg in the AM then 4mg at night for the first day the reason is that if you take 8mg on the first day it could put you in withdraw due to the Naloxone.The second day take 8mg then the third day take 8mg then you are done you will have a blood level in your system for the forth and fifth day .Suboxone has what they call a half life.Belive me this way or the other guys post are the most Effective ways to use Suboxone to detox from Herion. Good luck and push through it you deserve to be happy and clean.

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ok first I'd like to state this is my experience only....I was doing anywhere from 8 to 10 bags a day...I had been using for three months full blown from about week two into use...I've struggled with heroin addiction in the past ended up goin to jail then to state prison for 7 yes...I was released in Nov.. by Feb was working a great job back in school got an apt and added percs to my life why?!?! I thought I could control it...lol...wrong...I then switched to heroin fast forward to 3 days ago...I've been miserable...I loved being free of the addiction...I turned back out of sheer stupidity....long story short..I got 2 8 mg sub's...I wanted more but it was all I could get my hands on...I put it in my head that my last use was just that...I had already weaned myself down to 4 bags just enuf to get around ....I waited 12 hrs then took my first 2 mg....like I said this is MY experience....if u don't wait long enough thru research I've learned u can put urself into anticipated WD and its much worse...but 12 hrs worked for me...I took 2 mg every 6 hrs just to keep me functioning....I'm at the end of 72 hrs now subs gone and I feel functionable ...I'm not 100% but I'm ok....the mental fear of WD enhances the already bad experience... so I really stayed focused...watched movies...played cards...took my dog out...just stayed focused...believe me when I tell you I have been through HELL in withdrawal before...this was nothin g short of amazing to me...to the point I was questioning if I had been doing heroin at all...addict mentality kicked in...the sub's made a HUGE difference!!! for me...again research..goal of sobriety....support system even if its an online group which I used BC I was living a double life....quit now...its a horrible monkey to carry...good luck

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None of you are right. Regardless of how bad a heroin habit is 4mg suboxone will kill the withdrawl.take 4mg 24 hrs after last use.wait 48hrs and take another 4mg.wait 48 hrs and take 2mg and I promise you are done. No more withdrawl.I did it

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My son is trying to detox from Heroin. He bought 2 suboxone pills off the street, he took his last one Wednesday. Last Heroin use was Monday. He seems to be doing well. Will this continue or when the suboxone gets out after a few days, will he start w/drawals then???

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Ps to all the people who categorize all heroin users as thieves and stealers and that your alway off your face and can't manage anything. Research further or open your eyes. I was a detective in Victoria, I paid for my habit and didn't use my position in a very high heroin dealing inner Melbourne suburb. I hid it for 3 years and inadvertently was found out and came clean. I was a high achiever at work and had a position of authority and power. I did not ever abuse this, just myself. I'd like to blame a very bad time in my life and it helped to numb things so I could keep a brave face and march on, but that's a cheap excuse for not being honest and asking for help. Everyone has a choice, the only issue I have is with victoria police who wiped their hands and gave me no help after 15 years of hard work and a very clean record.

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Hi Marie,

I am going to share my experience, not my opinion as some seem to do. I had a long term, Camden NJ dope habit of roughly 8 bags a day on average. Heres how I got clean with suboxone: I weaned myself down to about three bags a day, then I had two 8mg subs. The hardest part was weaning down, becaus I obviously wasnt feeling the dope too much. I was just barely keeping myself from being sick.

Once I got down to three bags a day for three days, I did 4mg of subs roughly 10 hours after my last dose of dope. Yes, I intentionally precipitated withdrawal. I've done that so many times that I cant count. My logic is that Id rather get the sickness all at once for an hour or so than sit for a full day feeling semi creepy. Everytime that I induce PW, I inject and am sick within 15 seconds. But it only lasts me for about 45 minutes, then I start to feel better and am fully well within 1.5 hours. Enough so that I have an appetite to eat.

Because IVd subs has a shorter activity than sublingual or snorting, I will do another 1-2 mg withing 6-8 hours. The reason for the difference in bioavailability of IVd subs vs. sublingual is essentially because the chemical actually enters the blood stream through the mouth or nasal passages slowly over a period of time.

In any event, in my first 24 hours after taking the subs, I have ingested 6mgs. I wait about 16 hours to snort another 2mg, then wait 24 hours to take 1-2mg every 24 hours. The last time I kicked this way, it took me a total of five days. After that, I had a script for Ultram (tramadol) which I started taking 500mg per day in 250mg doses. Ultram is easy to get prescribed, but be careful, because doses over 400mg can increase the risk of seizures.

I'm not going to say that by detoxing by this method feels great. But is is definitely a whole lot better than my usual 7-12 day kick. My withdrawals are really long becsuse of nearly 25 years of heroin abuse. I can say that this way DOES make it managable where I'm able to work and function.

The Ultram is not a narcotic, but it does act on one of the three primary opiate receptors (mu, delta and kappa). In this action, it is about half as strong as codeine and will definitely help you get through the last legs of detox as the subs leave ypur system. The Ultrams also act as a mild SNRI anti depressant and they REALLY helped me with the depression that always kicks in when detoxing.

If youre not able to get Ultrams, get Immodium. At Walmart you can get a Equate bramd bottle of 72 for about five bucks. It too is an opiate but does not cross the blood brain barrier. I've used 30-50mg per day (yes... Thats 50-100 2mg pills) - it will not make you any more constipated than you were on the dope and will help get you through the last legs of your detox.

Again, this is MY experience which I've done numerous times. Sometimes not weaning down on the dope and sometimes with no Ultram. But I have NEVER needed more than 2 - 8mg subs over 4-6 days. Currently, I have not been dopesick for nearly four months. I've "chipped" a few times, only using for no more than 24 hours and have managed to keep from having any kind of habit.

I hope this helps and I wish you the best of luck getting clean. I assure you, having a heroin habit for decades REALLY sucks!

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Yes you must be in withdrawal to take suboxone if you don't you will be in horrible pain and it will make you withdrawal five time worse if you take it too soon

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Make sure you wait or you will feel worse. The suboxone include noloxne and although sub will kick some Heroin and other drugs off brain receptor it provides activity to the receptor but not near the level of Heroin. So initially between that and nolxone sp? You could feel worse if anxious and take too early med might not work in your favor but rather intensify withdrawl wait til you are 100% sure u t in moderate to severe withdrawl.... then take sub......it will make itv easier but my experience was 2 days before feeling settled a bit. Mental s*** makes u thinku r f***ed but after that initial span of mild Symptoms that can be delt with things get better quick they will work

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First, I would like to thank Michael, for taking time out to help + advise me. But no, I didn't get sub from a junkie friend for the only friend I have is a dollar in my pocket. I was given a description by my doctor to start me off on sub. I started them but I started to read the horror stories about getting off them+ I became aware that it's a replacement like methadone. I was in a clinic for 14 years + as u know the horrible withdrawal I went through, but I was determine to leave that horrible clinic. I got clean + sober for 6 years, when I lost all sense of reality + forgot about my horrible trauma, only to find my drug of choice Heroin + deceived myself to think this wouldn't happen again. Since I'm not interested in another opiate, that's why I wanted to know if I can tamper off my heroin habit with the sub. Again, I'm open to your advise because suboxene is a new drug to me. However, I'm not interested in a love affair with another opiate. I desire to live a drug free life.

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Hi everyone I waited 24 hours before taking my suboxone I took half of an 8 mg strip and then a little later I took 2mgs of sub but I still feel like crap is that usual? Pls get back to me asap I feel horrible!

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Hi,
I really need help. I have two babies so it's impossible to be ill. I had my last dose of heroin about 1pm today. I had less than normal. I have some Suboxone. How do I use the suboxone to come of the heroin with as little withdrawals as possible. I'm looking to get clean , not substitute. Please help x

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No you wont go right bnack into withdrawl especially since it sounds as if you did it the hard way. If you were taking subs you should not have been sick in bed for 3 days unless u didn't wait until u were already sick before starting the subs. But, a few days taking subs will not hurt if anything it will help. I have takin subs for a few days at a time and then ran out and was not sick at all , just some depression and we all know that sometimes it is the depression that does most of the talking in the first place after 3 days of withdrawling, it is usually all mental after that. I hope and pray for us all to get better and stay that way and to be able to help others in the process. Maybe God willing there will some day come a way that us addicts will not have to suffer through withdrawling physically or mentally just tto get our lives back, i think if not for the illness some of us could just walk away, some of us??

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I just want to say that the first poster, Michael, has no idea what he's talking about. That is all

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Michael, damn u for trying to take us "junkies" hope and spirit which is all u need and yes only take subs 3 days as mentioned above which is what it was originally and effectively designed to be on, michael is either a money "junkie" doctor or a f***ng troll one of the two good luck and god bless.

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I am an addict, I am 25 years old now. Have been using heroin off and on since I have been 15 years old. I have got off H many times using only few subs. It works. To start off wait 24 hours since you've last done dope. Then take half a strip. See how you feel in 2 hours. If you still feel bad take another little slice under your tounge. I usually use about 4 subs to do this. Over a period between 3-5 days. Then I feel great and happy I am off H. I am actually doing this right now again. Sadly :/ I'm on my 3 day. But this time I could never be more serious to stay off the H. It really is a shifty thing to have to rely on in order to function regularly. GOOD LUCK GUYS! IT CAN BE DONE. I PROMISE YOU IT CAN BE DONE

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YES U CAN I been on h yr an a half was on percs vikes before this for 5yrs- my husband is a 4 yr h user thafs how I started he hid his addiction saying he uses only pills for almost 3 yrs we was married then truth came out and found myself 'curios' why the hell the h was controlling him so much then BAM I found out.
Well to tbe point he's in rehab right now since 9 days and I got myself some subs 4 8mg strips I am 3 days not using h and feel fine no physical wd just alwaya on my mind to use but I won't do it.
Here's some help for u guys out tnere really wanting to stop mu hubby told me this the other day when I talmed to him on ph.
Don't say you will never use agajn, just say 'i won't use today' then when u wake up tommorrow take ur sub asap and say 'i feel ok and I won't use today' remember u can use tomorrow but just don't do it today.
Also you will think of the h for sure but this tjought only last a couple mins, tell youself 'no I'm going to wait 20 mins and think about what would happen'
So you can call ur connect and u know u can get some h u know 'one more time before I quit' fix u done told urself the last shot was the 'last' didn't u? Once u do it again its only a very sjirt time till u got to do more h it won't ever be ur last time unless u say 'i won't use it today' and do it for u- I habe two sons a family who doesnot know even now I used h so long tbry think its pills even now they know I take subs abd yes my husband knew we would use together everyday both being sure the other never had to face wd or become sick from h. But now we are getting clean and I am 3 days clean husban comes home in three days.
Hay guys I won't use h today don't know bout never but I know I won't today.
God bless and I know u can do it I am with tne subs only 4 of them to get past tne physical wd.

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Hi fordsallie,
Please explain further on waiting to take subboxin 24 hours after doing H? I really want to stop H, 3 years ago I had to have spine surgery and had a metal plate put into my spine. I was on oxi for a long time. About a year and a half ago I started doing H every time I ran out of Oxi. Now I am doing H more and more, I am taking about 10 bags a day, sniffing not shooting. I am so tired of living this life, sometimes I wish I was dead. So about 5 months ago I tried taking subbox to help my withdrawals, I was so afraid to feel pain that I took the subbox about 6 hours after I did H, and the withdrawals were bad. So you think I haVe to wait until I start feeling withdrawals before taking subboxin? Please help, thank you so much.

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She's still using. There's NO WAY to sleep thru H withdrawal...absolutely impossible

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