Pharmacist Refusing To Fill My Script Of Suboxone. What Do I Do??? (Page 12)
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I wet to my doc 7 days early because of running out early. I took my new script to pharmacy and said, this is early so I won't be using insurance. My doc said you can call him if necessary. Well no one wanted to. They filled two per day for three days. On the third day I asked to fill the rest on insurance for the next day. I was one day early. When I called the next morning to have my daily two filled the pharmacy manager said no we won't be filling it for another 5 days. Go to the ER for your withdrawals but don't come here because I won't give it to you. Has this happened to anyone else????

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Hey Trying To Help, I feel terrible to hear how your doctor treats you! This is YOUR treatment and you have a SAY in it. I feel fortunate to have a doctor that actually knows what he's talking about. ...he is right about not taking advice from random people online but it's advice I've gotten from my physicians and the FDA website. I think he got rude and defensive with you because, forbid, you brought up legitimate concerns with him and knew what you were talking about. If you've been taking that much you're right, you should only wean at an eighth at a time. And if he literally believes that opiate dependence isn't classified as a disease then he really needs to brush up. It is diagnosable as a disease since it changes your brain and physiological chemistry so much they have no choice but to diagnose and treat it as such. Take it easy with this meany and find you anyone else other then him in the meantime, it sounds like his personal opinions and feelings are trumping the facts and any doctor should know better then that. Hope you and family had a good Christmas: )) PS, I'll try and post some reliable links for you to check out!

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Terisita, You didn,t say how much you take a day. As you probably know, subs have a long halflife. A lot of people don,t start feeling withdrawalls for 2-3 days after stopping because of this. You could cut your subs in thirds and take a third a day. I,m not saying you won,t feel anything. I,m saying it won,t be like a full oxy or whatever withdrawall. Ash, I,m down to 1mg/day myself. I,ll have a day here and there where I take more. With me its the addiction behavior (taking more than the one mg.) Gonna stay on the 1mg for 2 week then go to .5mg for a week. Then I,m gonna jump. I,ve been on subs before and the last dr. had me taking dose once a day. This dr. has me on twice a day. I wish I had been dosing only once a day because now I,m used to that second dose in late afternoon. It,s gonna make it harder to jump when time comes. The first sub dr. I had told me this and I think he may be right. Oh ya, I jumped off subs at .5mg the first time and it wasn,t as bad as I thought it would be. I relasped obviously so I,m back on them. Also, I take u.a every month at sub dr. office. I havn,t told him I,ve been tapering. He,s totaly against it. He hasn,t said anything about my u.a results. I think this dr. is just in it for money. The first dr. I went to really seemed concerned and at my first appointment with him he worked out a 3 month taper plan for me. He was all booked this time so I found this other guy. Happy New Year!

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I'm so worried. I've been on suboxone for8 years. I have 6 days before walgreens will refill my prescription and only 2. 8 mg strips. I dont know what to do. If the anxiety wasn't so bad but its horrible. I just had a major surgery in November. I went off the suboxone while i was getting dilaudid in the hospital. Well after the surgery i went back on the suboxone. I guess it was a hard transition and i took more sub for about a week now I'm a week short. I didn't think. filling a few days early would be abig deal. I keep telling myself to wait until i can't take it anymore and take half of one like every other day i don't know if i can though. This time I'm giving my strips to someone and having then give me 2 a day so i don't overt take . Any suggestions? I'm 43 single mom of 14 and work full time

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Hi ash, thanks for checking on me. I did have the visit but man did it go all wrong. That doc is just mean and strict. After i explained what ive heard here online and others advice and told him my concerns, he told me those people online and in forums are not ur doctor. They are not ur suboxone prescriber. That this is not a brain disease and there is nothing to heal from, that its all mental really and im not physically dependent anymore just mental. Suboxone is a replacement for opiates so that u can fend off the withdrawl symptoms and that its his way or find another doc. And as far as the people online, they should not tell u when or how much suboxone, only help with how to keep ur mind off opiates and maintaining a drug free life. So he let me go 3 more weeks at my nlormal dose to get through the holidays and at my next visit we tapper. -now i think its goin too fast too. Im at 16 a day. In my mind i should drop by 2 if im gona have to do this, not even ready remember. But he wants me to go down to 12 and ignore what people tell me other than him. I wish i had another option for a doctor. Im scared and think this is gona go bad. Not that im gona use opiates cause i got dependent on them being prescribed to me and they arent anymore so i have no access to them but about my family-kids and husband. I see me being tempered and moody and no patience and they are the ones that will have to deal with me like that. Its not fair to any of us but i have no other choice. This all saddens me very much. Any thoughts? And merry christmas and happy new year to all and especially ash. Ur the only one on here to ever talk to me directly. Thanks for that.

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Hey trying to help, haven't been on here in a few. How did everything go?? I had my psychiatrist say the same thing before, if you've got enough stress in your life at the time then it's not going to help by adding more and possibly dopesickness on top of it. Wish doctors took their Hippocratic oaths a little more seriously these days. ..seems like numbers and cash are the almighty now.

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They say that the pain doesn't come until your final jump off of Suboxone when you take nothing at all.

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I live on the tn ky border

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Thanks so much for the info ash. I will mention those things. He seems to be a very stern straightforward guy and in my opinion is intimidating. It also doesnt help that ive only been able to go see him with one or both of my kids and he doesnt seem to have patients with them either. He was the only doc i could find here to take my ins and not charge me the $300 intake fee. I only have to pay for the drug checks and my ins does the rest. Thats a blessing. But this time im gona go in and have my son watched my my dad, my husband works too much and can never take off or hes fired kinda deal. But ill do what u said, go in and just be honest. Start with something like, "i came to you for help cause i couldnt do it alone and thus far and at this point, these are my concerns....". I was prescribed the opiates i took but was dosed very high for 3 years, even went through a pregnancy with them. My son had no issues, came out fine as if nothing was ever taken, again a bblessing. I had followed doctors strict orders and got put on methadone part way through. But i am very scared of the monster i will be because i know my body still craves the medicine and until that craving goes away, im very scared and what u said makes sence that it takes like 2 years. I mean none of us became addicted or dependent over night so we will not reverse that quick either. Even tho i was prescribed for my discs being messed up in my back, 6 of them, i did start taking more than prescribed cause my doc wouldnt listen when i said i was becoming used to the meds. So i upped myself and ended up running out and we know the mess that causes. The last time i broke off opiates with methadone, i dosed down and stopped it all fine but still felt a void, so i turned to alcohol. I cant drink any now without falling asleep but i did have a problem for about 2 months with it and thats not even like me. Alcohol never did that to me before but i guess trying to fill the void its what happened. So after a while my back got bad again, had a new mri and pain mngt put me back on opiates. This time i chose to stop the opiates. I was tired of needing to up and running out so now i control the pain with heavy doses of tramadol. And the subs work for the other void so i just have been on such a rollercoaster, i just wana be stable and "normal" for a while. Be better for my kids, work on my marraige. I have councilors that come to my home for both my special needs child and my marraige. They arent allowed to talk to my doc or anything but they also believe this is not the time. I just gotta try n get all that out to the doc but i feel like he might cut me off at hello, so to speak. Ugh! But im gona try!!! Thanks again for ur help and research ash. And for listening. Ive never told anyone so much of my story before. We all have different ones but at the end we all connect on some level and i think thats awesome.

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Yeah I've never heard them tapering that early! My understanding is Suboxone treatment is a two year program or at least close to it. The reading I've found says that anything sooner then two years has a relapse rate of 85%....you think your doctor would be concerned about that more then anything. I heard it takes two years for your opiate receptors to shrink back to normal. I'd just be honest with him and tell him what's on your mind. Maybe throw that two year fact out as a lil extra tidbit too. But your reasoning is completely acceptable. It's a stressful time of the year anyways, and most addicts suffer from mental illnesses to begin with which is why we most started using anyways. I feel ya, I've got borderline personality disorder and ed social anxiety among whatever the grand diagnosis is this year. But to some of these doctors your an addict to EVERYTHING and can't be trusted. I've found just being honest, no matter what it's about, with your doctor is the best route in the long run. But most aren't as understanding to our plight. Hope it goes good for you though, most docs wean slower too only an eighth at a time to begin with and then after that goes good maybe cut it by fourths after awhile. And my doc has told me if it's not working just let them know and they will call in my old amount or stop weaning for awhile, i've been on one a day for four months now and doing like you want in January cutting down a fourth or an eighth starting then. I've been getting myself ready for it by taking half day most the time but have still never experienced what its like when subs half life runs out...terrified of the story's I hear ..

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i do that with my meds. i have never run out before time. i always have pills left over, i have never abused my meds, i ALWAYS take as i am supposed to.

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Well ash i havent gotten to that part yet. But ive only been on subs for about 5 months and my dr wants to tapper me already. I feel like i just wana stay on them. Im stable like this. When i try to cut back myself, i get depressed, tired and just feel horrible. And what kind of dr would ask u to start a tapper just before the holidays? Cant this be like a new years resolution, first of the year deal or something? If hes gona make me tapper off i want to be successful but i dont think i will be doing it just now. Im gona tell him that at next visit on sat but i dont know what he will say. I said it last time and he said ok, we start tapper next visit. Come back in 3 weeks. Well that makes this sat, again just before xmas n all. Ill ask for 2 more weeks. I take 16mg a day now. 1 in am 1 in pm. He want me to go to 12 a day. Whew this is anxiety risingjust thinking about it. When u have anxiety as i do its worse although i think it could almost be created for anyone trying to do this. I notice most people are starting a tapper at lower dosage than me. That worries me too. Ahhhh! Goin crazy in my head with worry. Btw i have other names i have posted under depending on what device i am on. Just so u all know who i am. Im also one informed chic and questionable. And rob, i wasnt attacking dear. As ash said its hard to get a persons true meaning from typing, but no harm was meant. It was typed with a happy heart :-)

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That's great Rob, no one was trying to down you at all. You know how important 'net- etiquette' can be when typing. It just came off in a way is all :)

Anywhoooo, glad everyone is doing good. I was initially prescribed 12 mgs a day but usually only took four, maybe eight. Now I'm weaning, about 14 months in, been clean since. But honestly, very worried, my boyfriend still uses recreational. If such a thing is possible for addicts. I've told him when I'm off the subs I don't want to be in the position to feel like I could make myself feel high just once and fall right back into the cycle of HELL. So I'm just incredibly worried about that and weaning off completely. I've been going slow but it seemed in the beginning I could have done it easier compared to now. I'm technically on one a day but bounce between the usual four to eight mg daily. What's y'alls experience with this??

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No one has ever disrespected me in a pharmacy. Monthly I use the same pharmacy and I am always treated with the utmost respect. I am never looked down on as though I am a junkie. I am sorry for the people that have to go through this. If anybody dared looked down on me even an inkling, I would, by all means, say "What are you looking at? What do you think I'm a junkie?" and then I would say "This medicine called Suboxone that I obtain from you is for me to stop using Narcotics... And it doesn't make you feel high."so all of you out there who are disrespected by the technicians that work in the pharmacy, speak your mind to them and don't let them insult you and make you feel like a junkie because you are not a junkie. You are trying to stop using narcotics.

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Ash, And oh, by the way, I'd rather take 24 mg of Suboxone for the rest of my life then to be homeless using H on the streets. I am a chronic relapser and after 11 rehabs, I still could not stop using H. Suboxone gave me my life back, along with regular meetings of Naroctics Anonymous, working the 12 steps, getting a sponsor, changing people, places and things and most of all NOT PICKING UP H. Suboxone, along with that, is what got me through these past 9 years and enabled me to keep my job as a 2nd grade school teacher. So the choice was mine. Either continuing to use H. and watch my life spiral out of control until I am homeless - or take my Suboxone each day to enable me to function like a normal person. I chose the latter, and it's been 9 years and 4 months, and my life has been normal ever since I stopped using H. due to taking Suboxone! Am I boasting? Damned right because I am proud of myself. And it is hoped that my story will inspire others.

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You avoid running out early by taking them as prescribed.

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Ash. I agree with you when you say if I wait a few days I will feel withdawal. Of course I will. No argument here. And right you are again, I WILL care! And do CARE now.

Rob

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Excuse me "Questionable." I am a 2nd grade school teacher with a classroom of 26 students Mon. through Friday. And I am NOT boasting as you put it. My story is a successful one and I am proud that I have not used H in 9 years due to Suboxone. Now what? Rob

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Getting suboxone filled is a chore. These pharmacists who fill the stuff have never had a problem with anything. They went to high school, then to college, and now they will be pharmacists for the rest of their lives. They've been "good boys and girls." So whenever someone comes in with a script that they know is for addictions such as, H, oxy, roxy, percs, Vics, morphs, whatever, they look at you like your a piece of s***. I've been treated like a straight up junkie so many times it's not even funny. I've been screwed around with the perfect 30 day deal that they follow by the book, which isn't a big deal. I never run out early, don't take more than I should. Especially in South Carolina. I'm from St. Louis. In MO you can fill any script up to 5 days early. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT GO TO WALGREENS OR CVS OR ANY OTHER LARGE CHAIN PHARMACY. These are the places that will treat you like ur nothing more than a junkie off the street, not someone who is recovering. So f*** these pharmacists. Go to a local mom and pop pharmacy and build a rapport with the pharmacist. CVS and walgreens are awful drug stores. The pharmacists are rude (especially as walgreens) and they don't give a f*** about what you're going through.

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Ash,

Of course I'll care then because I will start going into withdrawals. But I rather have a four day leeway period where I can survive those four days with no withdrawals in case I ever lose my pills or something else happens where I have nothing. That will give me four days to do something about it. Actually, I have been taking 24 mg. each day for 9 years. I have tried to wean down on my own just to see if I could. The first few days, I only took 16mg (one tablet less) - and I'd be okay on 16mg., but after like 5-6 days, I'd start feeling bad. So I'd go back to 24mg. and felt fine, So I guess I am stuck on 24 mgs. And yes, my Doc has suggested in the past 9 years that I wean down, but I always tell her "NO." And she accepts that. I am so afraid if I stop that I will start using H again, which I have NOT touched since I started Suboxone 9 years ago. Suboxone gave me my life back. Before Suboxone, I failed 11 rehabs and my life was in shambles. Typical story. I considered myself a chronic relapser. I admire those who can stop using H and not DO ANYTHING - like methodone and/or Suboxone. I am just not one of those people.

Rob.

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Thank u ash, i was feelin some kinda way about his post, i just didnt know what to say. Its like add kids n other peoples stresses and pressures to urself n see how well u do. Thats great if ur ok, but dont come on here boasting about it in that manner. I myself would do alot better if i was alone or could go somewhere else for the recovery, but this is life, i cant just leave my responsibilities.

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