Oxycodone's Deathly Issue (Page 3)

I've been using Oxycodone for five years for pain management. I read about all the deaths that were associated with this drug which were being attributed to intentional over medications by patients in order to get high. I discovered by pure accident that there appears to be a major flaw in this pill's ability to consistently breakdown in the human system like it is intended to do, especially in the time release tablet. As the pill fails to breakdown and release it's medication, they begin to build up dangerous levels within the upper gastrointestinal track. They eventually do release into your system, but not when you planned for it, and sometimes many stored pills open at one time and dump into your system all at once. It could look like an intentional overdose to those who don't know about this issue. Has anyone else noticed that sometimes they feel like they never even took their pain pill? Or has anyone else noticed that every once in a while they seem to get super loaded for no known cause every once in a while? I discovered this issue when I went in for a colon test and after six hours of cleaning out my whole system, I began to notice at the very end that about fifteen oxycodone pills, fully intact, began to pass through my system from the upper gastrointestinal tract. The actual test showed that there were still five more left in my upper gastrointestinal tract. Nothing else in my whole system but those pills stuck inside me. I tried to inform the manufacture, but they did not want to hear what I had discovered. Meanwhile, they continue to blame all deaths related to Oxycodone to addicts who purposely took too many pills to get high. User's beware. I like to hear from anyone else who have noticed some of the oddities I've mentioned about this drug, especially if they have a reason to believe they too had a pill build up.

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I have seen full tabs of the OC from my father as well as at my job i work n a lab u still get the active ingredient in ur system dont be fooled by seeing it in the bowl now vomiting ur body wont have enough time for the drug to fully take effect.

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dear mike, an all concerned readers please be advised that kv pharmiceticuals have been recalled 60 to 70 varies of pain killers , some are oversize an deliver twice the regimen, also fda has contacted all major pharmiceticuals an informed them that all ingredients are not approved, several companys selling placebos, so don t be surprised if your doc tells you , you failed drug screen, spouse has failed 3 urine tests so far looking for fda lab approved lab to do qualitative analysis on tablet, she s been suffering with knee pain an could not beleive pain meds was nt doing nothing, she was taking watson 10/650 hyrocodone, cousin reported today that the va failed to send his hydrocodone because of shortage problem , an they get their meds at cheapest place, news article also about chinese fake pills being sold in houston area, but that was a rackeet caught by police were owner was buying placebos as cheap as 3 cents a piece an selling 100 times or higher please be careful, please notify dr of your concerns of fake pills on market, hopefully no one has to go thru days of dts an pain

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also mike ask dr to srcrp avinza its new time released med, they tell me it s the formulation for ms-conteyn, they started me out on 30 mg s it work ok for 12 to 16 hrs, drs usually ok as this formulay suppose not to be able to be crushed, snorted, nor injected, an i worked with 2 gentlemen form uk they told me the cost of a pack of cigarettes was $5 a pack, i can only imagine the cost of medication

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I began this thread on Oxycontin over a year ago expressing my concerns over the pill's release mechanism. At that time I had been on the pill for five years. Today I have been off Oxycontin for two months. I decided to do this at home and on my own accord. I still take Norco for pain. The daily dosage I was on was so strong that I felt like a street junkie. I felt like I had lost a major part of my personality and had no motivation. I was also growing concerned over a growing issue with my memory and I'm way too young for that to happen. The following is what I've gone through and the changes I've seen in me since I quit. First is that I slept for almost a month without any desire to do anything. The second is that I immediately noticed my memory was returning. The third is that I've had diarrhea ever since I got off the drug. The forth is that my pain level has decreased by 50%! Yes, I said 50%. I use to have sever body spasms which were getting worse and worse each year. I was told it was caused by my degenerative disk disease. Not true! It was caused by the Oxycontin. The spasms have returned to the level they were at six years ago. Getting off this medication has proven to me that this pain medication is something everyone should think twice about before accepting a script for it. I don't care what your Doctor tells you, or what you tell yourself, you will end up becoming a controlled addict and it will mess up your life, personality, memory and body. It is a bitch to get off of as well. I will end with the last line of my first posting; Buyer Beware! My advice now is to get off it while you still can.

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I have been w/pain meds for two years now,and I noticed that every morning when I wake up, the pain in joints knees are the most painfull. I have gout severe arthtritis and discs problems and Lately I noticed that this oxycontin may be the ones causing the pain.you are so medicated the whole day,that even natural and little pain are intensified when you are off it. I would like to learn how to get off this drug especially after hearing that this pill may have caused Michael Jacksons problem.

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I've been on Oxy for about 4 years now and take 120mg per day plus two or three 10 mg quick release oxy ir's fr breakthrough pain relief. I have never 'abused' the drug, meaning never crushing or snorting. I have also noticed that I have had boughts of vomitting and looking at two or three days worth of oxyconting in the toilet or bucket or whatever. I want desperately to get off of this but don;t know what to take as an alternative for the pain. I have extremely severe nerve damage from my diabetes and I often go throgh withdrawels as I'm approaching or surpassing that 12 hour window. I go through the whole gammet of withdrawel symptoms for several hours while waiting for the next dose to kick in. I have not been able to work for just over a year now because of all of this. I am exhausted almost all the time except for not being able to sleep until 1am becuase if insomnia. I wish that my doctor had never put me on this med. She doesnt seem too concerned about my disdain for the drug but I need to get off of this. Does anyone know of an alternative pain med, preferably a non narcotic one. I was someone who never even used to take a tylenol unless I had a migraine. I am now on so much oxy as well as other meds for pain and it has literally stollen my life from me. I am on the couch most of the time, I force myself to get up and do the dishes and the basic housework but it's truly a major struggle. I was always one to take pride in myself, my work, my house, etc. I still do but now I feel like I can barely function. Please if anyone has any light to offer, please do.

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P.s. I went back and read the older threads with much interest. It seems that we are all experiencing similar problems with oxycontin. I know what you mean about having all the meds catch up after feeling like you've missed doses for a a day or three, and then feeling as though you are floating along on an oxy cloud in complete dillusional bliss. I can;t wait to find an alternative, I'm willing and terrified at the same time to go through the horrible withdrawels (which I have probably experienced a hundred times or more for some unknown reason, well actually, time release not working would explain that), I know I'm rambling a bit so my apologies. I'll stop now...will check back later for any other responses.

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I've noticed a few new discussions about Oxycontin since I last posted about my withdrawal experiences after going cold turkey in mid January 09. I've now been off this drug for five and a half months. When I began my self detox., I was using 150-mg. daily. I had begun using this drug in 2001 in small daily dosages. I can't say that it has been easy. Physically I have seen that this drug increased and caused serious physical pain issues that immediately went away when I stopped using it. The mental addiction is much much more powerful than the physical one. The longer you use this mind numbing pill, the harder it will be to return to life without it. Don't think you can't get off this drug because you can. It sounds to me like you two who posted this month are where I was at when I decided to just do it. I don't think I could have detoxed without my continued use of breakthrough narcotics that I had been using with the Oxycontin. Since I withdrew from this drug, I've reduced the use of four other prescribed drugs by three forth of their original dosages. I am now trying to reduce my daily intake of Narco, the last of my narcotic prescriptions. I'm having a heck of a time with this drug. I do know now that the mental dependency is a much bigger issue than the physical dependency. I don't recommend going cold turkey unless you also have other opiates that you can use when you cut off the Oxy. Once you successfully get off of the Oxy., you will see how much it really has messed up your body and mind and start trying to reduce the others as well. I wish you all well and hope that you will realize that there is no time that is better than right now when your mind is desiring to get off it. You can do this. Just realize that what took years getting into, will take much more than a week or two to get out of. Good Luck.

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I have several more important things to say to the two who have posted this month. This drug does cause serious additional physical issues which for me were so painful that I was was given other pain killers for those conditions. It also kills a persons motivation to even maintain their previous standards for basic daily choirs. I am amazed at what I can now do physically verses what I could do prior to detoxing. One pill that really helped me in the first couple of months of detoxing was 10 mg. tablets of Diazepam used several times each day. I was able to quit these easily in the third month. This drug just helped me through anxiety issues which overtook me a couple of times a day in the first two months. Thankfully, I do not go through that any longer. If you are already sitting around at home doing nothing, you don't need to be too worried about detoxing. If you are using another opiate based drug that is a quick release for breakthrough pain, it will get you through detoxing at home without serious physical side effects. You can do what I chose to do and get off the other drugs later. Once you do the Oxycontin, you will have the courage and determination to tackle the rest of the medications that you innocently allowed yourself to get hooked on. Once you get off the Oxycontin, you will realize that you did get addicted even though you followed all the rules and never took more than you were prescribed, and were told by your Doctor you weren't an addict. It's a real eye-opener. I'm still working on decreasing all my medications and hoping I can get all the way back to taking only the mildest forms when needed. Oh yes, I also have found that Advil is more effective for my pain levels today than the Oxycontin and Narco were together. Don't forget in my first posting following my detoxing off Oxycontin, my pain level dropped 50% immediately. It's now down 75%. Amazing.

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Thanks Ginny, I appreciate any info coming from someone that has already been throught this. I look forward to getting my life back. I have always been a 'go getter' and I want to be that person again. Mentally, I still have those tendancies, am always there for other people and have the mental motivation to follow my dreams but physically, I feel like I'm being held back. \Everything seems to revolve around the oxy. I am familiar with every friend's and family's spare rooms, as I almost always end up having to go and lay down half way through a get together. It's things like that which I find so depressing. Everyone knows me as a sick person. Although I will still have health issues such as kidney failure and neuropothy, diabetes, etc. I know that I should be able to live a relatively normal life, once I get off of the oxy that is. I plan on doing this very soon, so I will let you know how things are going and I will likely go through some pretty bad anxiety, but I have been through many difficult situations in the past and I always get through them with a positive attitude and renewed strength. Thanks for your support and info.

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Hi Lucy,
I'm glad that my posting have been able to find the person I was hoping they would reach. I thought of detoxing for over a year, yet I couldn't find any online information other than clinics and essentially treatments for heroin detoxing. I refused to go down that road and that is why I ended up doing it by myself at home. Thankfully I have a very supportive spouse who has been very patient and helpful through out all of this. I hope you have someone as well, but it can be done alone as well. There is a manner in which you and I can obtain each-others private emails if you decide that you would like to personally communicate with me while you take on this challenge. I would be more than happy to offer you any form of support via emails if you think it may be helpful to you. If so, just post a message that you want to make our emailing private and I will submit a request to the moderator to provide you with my email address. Once you have it you can email me and we can talk in private. Again, Good Luck. You Can Do This!

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Hello, i have found that all of these posts have been most useful. The whole thing about the pills not breaking down the way that they are supposed to. i was at work several weeks ago and took my normal medication in the morning after breakfast and 3 hours later found myself collapsed and convulsing underneath a ladder at work. i was told that i just passed out and it was due to being overheated but i knew that it wasn't the case because of me physically convulsing. i never abuse the medication in any way, yet there i was on the concrete with no idea what just happened to me after falling off a ladder. i have been using medication for the past year and a half and have been just taking hydrocodone in moderation according to pain, but recently was perscribed oxycodone. maybe that was the culperate, since i have multiple stomache issues and the possibility of multiple pills releasing at once is likely according to your diagnosis. all i know is since i read this thread last week i have stopped taking everything. Thank you, all of you.

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Topher,
Your statement about just falling without reason, or cause, really floored me. What finally got me to just quit the Oxycontin and substatianally reduce the dosages of all of my medications is because I had a long term desire to get off these mind numbing pills, and when I too began falling it lit a fire under me. Until I turned 57yr's. old, I had been a highly coordinated person and had never broke a bone in my body, nor fallen. However, last summer I suddenly began falling about three times a month. One time I was standing in a stationary position at a counter preparing food when I fell flat onto my back without even a foot movement. I felt like I had blacked out for a nano-second or something. My body and head hit the floor with tremendous force. Prior to my full body falls, I frequently had noticed times when things would just drop out of my hands as if my involuntary muscle reflex just stopped working. Later, my full body falls seemed similar in nature. These falls were bizarre because I never had any warning that I was about to go down or fall over. I was not tripping; I was just falling. I told my Doctor about it and expressed how concerned I was about falling for no obvious or logical reason. She didn't order any test or concern herself. I said to her, If I keep this up I'm going to break a bone. Less than a month later, and on my eighth fall in three months, I broke my elbow. While I was In the E.R. getting my elbow cast, they did a cat scan, or MRI, of my brain because I told them about the previous falls I had been experiencing. That Doctor was quite concerned, but fortunately they found nothing. I left with my arm in a cast, and I just knew it was the drugs that were causing my falls. Since I quit the Oxycontin, I haven't fallen even once or dropped anything either. There is no doubt in my mind that this drug, combined with others or alone, creates some form of mili- second black out resulting in a loss of body or muscle coordination. I won't even bother to get into discussing how it does a similar thing to the brain which leaves you wondering where you just went for a minute or more.

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I want to point out that a couple of people have posted their responses to my question asking if they too had seen full pills pass through them undigested, or experienced getting super loaded at odd times and other times never feeling the drugs effect in their system when it's taken. I did not hide the fact that I think this indicates a faulty slow release issue with this drug. Some have referred to these pill sightings as ghost pills, which indicates the pill has retained it's outer shell and shape, but the medication inside has been dispersed through osmosis. This is the limit of my understanding regarding what they were speaking about. I'm sure that their explanation is valid for some pills, but I think Oxycodine does have a release issue. I felt so certain about this issue that I told my husband if I die due to an Oxy. related overdose, I want you to have every inch of my stomach probed for unreleased pills still intact within my stomach. If my theory was proven correct under these circumstances, my family would have a legal case. However, it is important that readers remember this is an untested, unproven theory which is legally meaningless. In other words, please understand that I am not a scientist and my gut feeling may be the basis of absolutely nothing.

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I am now into my seventh month of detoxifying from Oxycontin, in addition to reducing five other pain medications by 75% each.
Hear is the good news:
I've only had two episodes which made me desire an Oxycontin High throughout all these months. Both incidents occurred while I was going through emotional pain, not physical pain. I immediately recognized that my use of pain pills over many, many years had created a broader use for them beyond pain.
This has forced me to re-evaluate my liberal minded, PILLS are HELPFUL policy.
I threw out my old way of thinking, and replaced it with a structured and semi-objective list of questions which have helped me evaluate, reduce and cut some medications completely off my long list. I now ask and respond to the following questions before I allow myself to take a pill for pain:

WHERE: Where is the origin of my pain right now?

WHEN: When did it start? When did I last take a pill for this? Does this pain have an hourly pattern? When does this pain surface the most? When did I last try alternative methods to reduce this pain? When did I start taking this pill, and for what? When did the dosage or amount of pills become so large?

WHY: Am I experiencing this pain? Why do I think I need, or want, a pain pill? Why don't I wait X more hours before I take a pill for this..

WHAT: What other methods and treatments can I use to reduce my pain other than taking a pill? What physical treatments and exercises can I do to help my body over this hump? What is my mental state of mind? What is my short and long term goal to reduce this pill or stop using it? What rules and regulations must I follow hourly and daily in order to reach my goals? What did I accomplish today towards achieving my goals? What are the negative effects of this drug on me?

These questions have led me down a new path which helped me stop Oxycontin overnight and reduce five other pain meds by 75% in less than three months. I'm still working on reducing, slashing and cutting pills from my daily life. Hope this helps someone, it sure has helped me.

HOW: How long should I attempt to reduce my pain before I feel I have a valid need for a pill. How is this pill going to change my behavior immediately, tomorrow and each day after. How does this pill effect my physical and mental abilities? How has this pill contributed to my counter productive behavior and state of mind? How can I view my pain and revaluate it's normalcy considering the circumstances and my bodies condition. or
unbearable, short term, long term, a body warning, avoidable, emotional state

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Hi Ginny,
Thanks for your support. I decided to gp ahead and start weaning myself off the the oxyconton. I normally take 60mg in the am and 60 mg in the pm. On Saturday I decided to begin with 40 in the morning and leave the others as is for now. I plan on reducing by 20 mg at a time for one week each and continue on that path. So far, it's been going well. I look forward to the day that I never take another oxy. I am trying to rely on gabapentin and amatryptaline for the nerve damage pain. I still have percocets that I can use for breakthrough pain meds which are a much lower dosage than the oxycontins. I know that this will become more difficult but I have a wonderful support system in my family and I have warned them of the potential withdrawl symtoms so that they are prepared as well. I look forward to havin gmy life back, getting out and havimg fun, being able to work again, etc. I'll keep you posted of my progress.

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Lucy,
It's great to hear that you have decided to just do this! Do you know that percocet is the same drug as Oxycontin? The difference is it is not time released. I too used high doses of gabapentin for the steadily increasing nerve related pain over the years. After I stopped all use of Oxycontin, I discovered that a great majority of my nerve related issues and pain went away. I now believe that my steadily increasing pain and nerve issues were created by the Oxycontin. Following that, I was able to reduce my daily gabapintin intake of 600-mg. to only 200-mg. per day, and cut my Soma use for spasms' by 2/3 rds. Keep me informed of your progress and good luck.

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Hi Lucy,
I am hoping that you won't mind responding to a few questions I have about your pain issues and related pain medication used for it. I ask because I'm curious how many others on Oxycontin have similar pain development issues. I'm wondering if your nerve related pain seemed to progressively become more frequent, intolerable and disabling once you started using Oxycontin? When your dosage was increased for pain, did you notice that after a few months the pain level and nerve related issues would increase as well? Also, have you been experiencing painful and debilitating spasms' in areas of your body which were not actually involved in any injury? If so, did it begin in your fingers and toes and after several years of Oxycontin use progressively move into other, larger areas of your body? Let me know if any of these issues apply to your health issues.

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Hello All,
I'm hopeful that those of you who posted their intent on lowering or quitting their use of Oxy... have continued on with your decision and have made some real progress since you last posted. Let me know how things are going. Remember, even if you gave up on this attempt, it does not mean you can't try again and again and again until finally you succeed.
IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ALL:
Has anyone else heard the chatter on the internet (unconfirmed) that the manufactures of Oxycontin are going to take it off the market in the next month or two? Would like to know if this is true or what you might know about this rumor. Thanks.

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I was grateful to receive this information, because I thought I was being given some bogus pills. About 1/3 of my oxycodone don't seem to have any effect at all.

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