Orange Subutex 153 Half Moon (Page 6)
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I use these and they work great. I was on the Roxanna Pharma ones that were circular in size and these orange ones work way better. Wish I had been on them from the start.
Still getting the Roxannes. Been on them for 6 years. Have also tried the Teva (ovals), Hi-Tek(small arrows with 8), and the new 153 peach Actavis 153 ovals. I have found that the coloring in the new AcTavis cause massive migraines(due to the color/flavoring that they use, similar to the film strips and diet soda). I find the Roxanne superior to all other subutex (the Hi-tek) work faster but last 2/3 the time. I hope that is not true about Roxanne but like I said, I still get them every month.
There is so much misinformation that it's scary. If you think that plain BUPRENORPHINE (tex) cannot send you into precipitated withdrawal..please...do a search first and fact check. Gain a little pharmacological insight or prepare to possibly go through some of the worst pain you'll ever know.
Get sick. Get clean. Ftw. These meds are a life sentence. Don't take them for more than a week. Or you will be able to buy a house with the next 5 years you pay to postpone the sickness you have waiting for you. It's still there. Waiting.
I'm 10 minutes into oval orange 153 D. Will try to follow up with results. 10+ years on subutex, suboxone, and early clinical evaluations before it hit the market should provide a solid point of reference or control perspective. If you don't know how to navigate pill forums of just google the numbers color and shape to get instant results please do. It could reduce long winded feeds like this to honest reports of functionality. Also it is the first 7 dayers who need immediate answers about if it works; it does but not a get out of jail free card. do it. You didn't hesitate cramming whatever black gooey sludge into ur bloodstream, don't get picky getting clean. And don't do it for longer than u need to, get clean or else you are stuck with a expensive f***ing necessity big pharm drug that does not even give u a spark of good feeling except not getting sick. It is the permanent rug which you sweep it under, and will be there with bells on once you try to go all out clean. Do it for days, weeks if ur bad, but do the work and suffer thru the kick, if I could go back 10 years I would rather kick in jail than be on this s*** forever. There Is No Easy Way Out. Fight for it.
I have said this before..I was taking anywhere from 15 to 20 pk's A DAY. I took my first prescribed SUBUTEX the evening I took my 19th pk for the day...like within 3 hours apart. This PK I took by the way was my last! Almost 2 years later..anyway, I look my SUBUTEX and did NOT have any withdrawals what so ever. That was 3 hours after my 19 pain pill. SO, NO..not only did my dr tell me this but so did my pharmacist, with SUBUTEX, there are no precipitated withdraws. I and all the people I know that take SUBUTEX have also said, no withdraws what so ever. Suboxone on the other hand will give you the horrible WD's if you are IV'ing a drug then take Suboxone. Anyway...It is what it is...I wish everyone well. I'm 2 years clean. My advise...if you have been lucky enough to get on this awesome medication...don't abuse it! Take it for the right reasons, and stay clean!!!
Subutex are,way better than any strip period . You have mentally made yourself feel that way trust me strips Sucks for me . Last about 8-10 hrs subutex 24hrs+
Awesome! I have been reading through all these "mostly" useless posts and I am glad to hear the orange ones work excellent as I was beginning to really hate the white paste on my lips from round white ones ;-)
YES!!!!They are BETTER!!!!Orange subutex not suboxon ....they are stronger n last longer..
I have a Suboxone habit and have had one for 5 years on and off. Anyways these are supposedly better than other brands, but I can't tell yet as I just took mine. My Suboxone habit is cheaper than my Newport cigarette habit. Take care u all.
I tried these for the firs . Time today and LOOOVED them
this thread is over a year old and the 54 411's are still being made, i dont know where you get your info from
I think it truly comes down to everyone is different and reacts differently to subutex and suboxone, especially when it is right after their last dose of opiates and first dose of suboxone/subutex. I don't think it has anything to with the method of opiate administration, intravenous or not, it has more to do with the quickness (half life) of the particular opiate you are coming off of, how much you take daily, how often you dose that decides how quickly a person can first take a dose of suboxone/subutex. If taken too quickly, the buprenorphine will rip the remaining opiates from your receptors in your brain. Which is why a person goes into withdraw. This is because of the strength of bond the buprenorphine has with the opiate receptors in the brain which is much stronger than any full antagonist opiate.
Subutex has no blocker and suboxone does. It's hard to even get Subutex in Louisville KY. I don't take opiates and suboxones cost alot more.
Not true bc I'm still getting them
Except for one thing...you can take suboxon soon after as long as the drug prior was not something put in your veins. If you have taken pk's and ready to start suboxon...you wont have withdraws. This is by experence...Even my pharmacy told me this. I take subitex now. Just adding this by experence only.
OMG..Thank you Chris! Everything you have said I've tried to explain time and time again over the past year and people think i'm crazy.
Peace
Agreed. Except once again it's the buprenorphine that binds to the opiate receptors and dies not allow for other opiates to take a place because the buprenorphine is already locked in the opiate receptors. And yes suboxone is not a miracle drug it can help with withdraw and cravings but will not be successful unless a person is ready to stop, regardless. Also no, you can not, take suboxone to early after last use or you will get extremely sick.
Naloxone is a blocker, it's what stops you from taking other opiates while taking suboxone. I'm not quite understanding the issue in the other comments tho. Suboxone is highly addictive. If left on suboxone for years, most likely one will abuse it. Addicts just tend to abuse any drug. It is a miracle drug for withdrawal, you can be in full withdrawal, pop a bupe under the tongue and your all better really fast. I'd not advise anyone who isn't an opiate addict to even take a piece of suboxone, you will get very sick. It saved my life. Idk what I'd do without suboxone.
This was for ihatemisleadcomments btw...
Also where did u get they derived buprenorphine from morphine? Is it cuz they sound the same at the end? You are so wrong cuz this came straight from wikipedia...Buprenorphine is a semisynthetic opioid derivative of thebaine. It is a mixed partial agonist opioid receptor modulator that is used to treat opioid addiction in higher dosages.
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