Orange Subutex 153 Half Moon (Page 7)
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I use these and they work great. I was on the Roxanna Pharma ones that were circular in size and these orange ones work way better. Wish I had been on them from the start.

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Mary, I must apologize to you. My comments were meant for ihatemisleadcomments and your post was right around the same time. So I do apologize saying that to you but not for saying that ihatemisleadcomments is ignorant and pretty dumb. The bupre in both suboxone and subutex is the blocker and the naloxone (narcan) is only added to subutex because the FDA told the makers they need to make it less of a diversion med. In other words the FDA said they needed to come up with a way to discourage misuse of suboxone so it would go up in drug classes. The solution...a little naloxone. This was suppose to stop people from misusing the suboxone intravenously. Other then that both subutex and suboxone still block the cravings and the bupre in both meds will not allow someone to feel opiates if a person were to use opiates too early after a suboxone dose. Again the bupre is what attaches to the receptors stronger than any opiate which does not allow any opiates to reach the receptors because the bupre is already there. Anyways sorry marry I screwed up bad on that one but the guy who wrote this is truly misguided and wrong so I don't get his user name "ihatemisleadcomments" cuz that comment was incorrect and insulting to people using subutex that are in a serious program to stay clean...

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I take for withdrawal they work

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Are u for real they aren't going to make the 54 411 anymore? I mean we still got then last Saturday

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One thing I do want to say Chris...First, I wish BL was on here coz he/she would be the one to put you in your place..and I'm not saying this to have someone fight my Battle's.. But he wouldn't stand for you words either...No Respect!
Second, when I am speaking, I'm speaking from my own experiences... Not someone else's. How the medication effects me is what I discuss or explain in a conversation. I do NOT have a clue how the next person feels.
Peace

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Chris, I just saw where you called me ignorant... I didn't even read on because I won't be on here and argue with a child.
I have no idea what the heck you are talking about, and I suggest next time, instead of going off on someone, better to talk to that person first! Grow up who ever you are!
I'm one of the most down to earth kind person one can meet and never has anyone spoke a negitive word to me in this manner. So, I take what you say and in went in one ear and out the other!
Please dude

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One more note is that no the addict does not feel high in the sense we know being high as but when taking suboxone or subutex in any other non addict/addiction professional's opinion, yes we are feeling high. Our normal or sober floor, for lack of better words, has been raised to a higher threshold than a non opiate addict is all that happened. Let a non addict take even 1mg of either subutex or suboxone and most will be on their butts. So in that aspect we are still feeling high but a leveled out, peaking out high. Not a keep taking more dope and continue to get annihilated high. We are still physically dependent on it and will get sick with a few days without our sub but that is not the same as being addicted to subs or being in active addiction. Whether we are feeling "high" or not. It's just is a matter of semantics.

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Actually rereading my post again, I even asked the question..."if naloxobe is a blocker, like many have been saying, they how come when narcan brings an overdosed person back, that same person can be on the block shotting kore dope and getting high again 20 minutes later?" Do you just not read before posting or telling someone they know nothing? Seems to me you read my post, changed in your own words, and posted but not before telling me I am wrong or tgat I said naloxone is a blocker. Actually i was clearly claiming the opposite. Anger is a natural form of grief of a great loss such as a drug of choice and so is snapping with half the details or without even reading my post thoroughly. So its all good...I am just confused on what your point was and how it was any different then what I said?

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And that is not exactly what I wrote? Because you said bupe has a higher "affinity" than an opiate and I said more simply that bupe has a stronger bind to the receptor, i dont know know what I'm talking about? And yes naloxone is only used in the body when ived. Or to stop diversion, like i said. Tge naloxone still enters the body sublingually but with such a small absortion, you coukd just say it only activated when ived...heated up, in order to make tgat happen or try. So where was what I said any different? Im just not following you?

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This isn't true! I have a friend who still gets the 54 411 ones... Actually she went today and the pharm told her they ordered more and would have them tmr..

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Dude, you don't know anything about this medication obviously. The locks and has nothing to do with blocking the effects from opiates, it is a deterrent put in Suboxone to stop people from injecting it. Euper nor feeling however the main ingredient in both Subutex and Suboxone is what blocks the feeling of getting high, so to speak. This is because buprenorphine binds to the opiate receptor at a higher affinity than any other opiates. If you don't know what you're talking about, then please just stay quiet. This board is for people who are here to see real answers to real questions. NALOXONE IS NOT A BLOCKER FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE!!!

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It's not that it gets activated when heated up, it gets activated when it enters the bloodstream intravenously

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Mary you are so ignorant it's sickening. Can you please find me a website (reputable) that says that people like subutex better cuz they can still feel high? You are so ignorant and way off base talking like that. Please find me a link that says subutex has no BLOCKER in it and I will apologize to you but you should be apologizing to everyone for that comment. I just received my CADC and took college courses just on pharmaceutical options for addiction. Once again because obviously people can't read or don't like to be told they're wrong either way Suboxone and Subutex both contain buprenorphine which has a much stronger bind to the miu receptor than any opiate or opioid out there that is what keeps you from getting the high feeling. Now this is the same in both subutex and suboxone. The bupre. Prevents you from feeling high but does not keep you from overdosing. Now suboxone has naloxone and this is why people spread the wrong info which will kill someone for reading the wrong info. The naloxone only gets activated when heated or cooked up. It is there simply to deter misuse/diversion of the medication. That is naloxones one and only function. Again please post a site that says differently... in fact I challenge anyone to find a reputable site that says differently or that says "people that use subutex use it cuz they don't want to get clean, they want to feel high". If naloxone were a BLOCKER then how come narcan shots bring a person who overdosed back to life but does not prevent them from going right back out 20 minutes later and feeling high again? Because naloxone/narcan literally rips the opiates from your miu receptor in order to bring you back but it does not bind to that receptor. Again I challenge anyone that thinks different to show the proof. Once you look and see I know what I'm talking about please please stop saying wrong info and from being so ignorant and saying people that use subutex use it cuz they still feel high with opiates. That is seriously so disgraceful to say especially when you are not even correct about how the meds work...Mary I am going to pray for you and for the knowledge and wisdom and to hopefully stop saying the most inconsiderate and unbacked up statement I have EVER heard!

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This is what I use. I'm MY opinion, they last longer and work better then the white ones. So many people are stuck on these round white ones which I took for a long time. At first, I questioned the orange...but seriously...I will not go back. They do have a bit different taste..but all is fine.

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Who said subutex has naloxone in it? Not me. And please do your research before posting wrong info cuz the bup IS the blocker in both subutex and suboxone. So you can not feel high from opiates or opioids when taking either of them. Naloxone only gets activated when heated up.

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The DA didn't stop the 54 411, 561

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liqpluspatchanactiq, are you licking the sh*t outa one of them actiq suckers right now or something? or maybe just really drunk... my guess is both. I dont get what the big deal with fentanyl is either, if i was gonna be on something that strong give me opanas or hydromorphs

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Hey first off I was married to a pharmacist, only reason I quit was cause of an accident I was in. I never said there was. I said this page had a link to all the shortages and new patents. this I'm talking about was wrote awhile ago but yes the pharmacy has a contract. I've been on Roxane except for the July or August two times got the 8mg Actavis Orange moons from Walgreens. I'm fine with either or I just can't take the hi techs cause they f*** with my mind by being the size of a tic tac an whoeva is saying that subutex is not a blocker do some actual like medical pharmaceutical research, some papers say buprenorphine binds higher then most other opiates, same as suboxone there are a small bit of naloxone in them. subutex has none but subutex if taken over the 1mg range will deff block other opiates. if u are sensitive to naloxone like me off coarse take subutex like me but I'm from the state that the company B & r are from. they had to publicly admit the naloxone does very little other than to scare J's frm abusing em. naloxone in pill form comes all way up at least to 50mgs cause back before they made the law where u could get them from the dr's office when I was 18, I'm 33 now, my fam paid s*** ton of $ for me to do this month long outpatient detox where u get the bupernex amps and have to intramuscular them in your buttocks. At 18 I didn't know all I do now so I saw buprenorphine an just read the fine part, very dumb so as a fact I tell u just plain Bupe will throw everything opiate wise off your brain cause dr said don't iv them an antagonist agonist I didn't no s*** back then so I still had dope n my system an I administered the amp of just a lil 0.03 of buprenorphine, that's how much med is in what they still give for pain an it threw me into the worst withdrawal I had even been in an I never did the detox an was on methadone 140mgs an oxy 30s for break thru pain cause addict or not I was in very painful an bad accident so by that time though all I did was read about meds an Shiz well my pain. dr neurologist retired an I had go to my reg dr. he sent me to a psychiatrist that was a old dr of mine an I got on subutex. I'm not sick an I waited tell I was first off before I started an worked just like it should of an main diff is I'm not sick but I'm not nod N out all day burning my clothes up. I'm going to get back on reg meds as soon as I can find a pain dr taking new patients but there's not a lot cause the obvious reasons and the dr's r now to p***** to write but I don't blame them. I blame the d.e.a and fear mongers like the people of FOX News and all that crap, no sorry DEA not every pill is diverted to the street. u would have to kill me to get my meds if I new u was trying rob me and most ppl that r in active addiction or "opiate dependence" cause from a pain suffer an ex addict guess u wud say u still feel the same w'ds. now late I left out some thing I forgot to add but I need sleep. Night.

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Not to forget..Noloxone it self saves lives!

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Buprenorphine is the main blocker.. It doesn't matter if you take suboxone or subutex the bup will stick to all your receptors and block any other opiate or opioid. The main reason naloxone is put in suboxone is for prevention of abuse by Intravenous use.

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For you who hates!
Don't knock people if they are confused or ask question's! This is what this site is all about for the most part. I say Sub's, and I mean subutex...some people say Sub's and mean suboxone. It's all good, no bad intentions here. When I started Sub's a year ago, I too was very confused on the what, who's and when and how's of it. Nobody gave me a hard time at all..So get off people's back and remember..NOBODY IS PERFECT!

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