Orange Subutex 153 Half Moon (Page 5)
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I use these and they work great. I was on the Roxanna Pharma ones that were circular in size and these orange ones work way better. Wish I had been on them from the start.

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My pharmacy has carried them since the switched from the moon ones and I have had to wait for partial scripts or even whole scripts so they could order more so they aren't dicontinued. I have never got anything aside from the 54 411

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I have noticed all pharmacy not giving the 54 411 big white ones any more. And I really liked those ones. But now take the orange 153 half moon orange ones and they work just the same. But I recently found a pharmacy that has the 54 411 still.. :)

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Just a little 2 mg after 20 PK's..Lol. That little 2 mg helped me after my 5 or so year pk habit! I've been to many of meetings, all agree with me...After we start to have withdraws, that so called 2 mg pill help! I don't claim to be a doctor and I don't give instructions to anyone EVER here on this site. It's dangerous and stupid! I tell what works for me and me alone! I don't play games with people's lives...I advise anyone who takes Subutex or Suboxone, seek medical attention and of course do as your doctor tells you to do. Now, I will say this..I have never taken it intravenously! If you do, and you plan on taking Suboxone..You better wait till full withdrawal hits. The smart thing to do is just follow Dr orders!

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Please read the link below so the ones that still argue (that naloxone is a blocker in suboxone and it's not the buprenorphine in BOTH subutex and suboxone that is the true blocker) can stop. I'm sure there are those that will still argue how the naloxone in suboxone is a blocker from opiates and subutex has no blocker. Remember this is .org page and is what i said at least ten times. Please stop spreading the wrong info. You will not get sick if you already have a full coverage of buprenoprhine in your receptors. If you're on subutex or suboxone just won't feel high (don't try with higher doses cuz once it breaks through it could be fatal). You will however get sick if you administer dope intravenously and take a few 8mg suboxone right after, but not from a little 2mg after 20 vicodin.

naabt.org/faq_answers

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You totally miss read what I wrote! The doc said nothing to me...Read again!

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Oh hell ya, me too..I'm totally surprised they did that! I agree with you here.

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I literally and have, while having insurance problems, gone from one generic Subutex to another generic suboxone back to a different suboxone generic then back to Subutex. Some work better than others but at the end of the day I was 24hrs. Cleaner. And fit the guy with Subutex and morphine. How many mg of Subutex were you taking cuz it takes 8mg stacked day by day to keep all brain cell covered with buprenorphine. 4 mg daily covers a little less than half and so on. So if you were only taking 4,mg daily or something that's why they could still give you morphine too but im very surprised they did that

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Subutex or Suboxone had nothing to do with how much a person "feels" he or"knows" he can stay sober. That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. So your doc said do you think you will relapse? You said "no i know i won't" and he said in that case you can have Subutex cuz Suboxone is only for those who aren't sure so they get sick and suffer? That makes zero sense. First off it can depend on insurances that will only cover Subutex others only Suboxone unless a person is allergic to naloxone then they will cover Subutex. It really just depends what your doctor feels like prescribing or likes to prescribe and what your insurance covers.

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Mary,
That's awesome!!!! Thankyou for sharing your experience,strength and hope.Recovery is possible for EVERYONE. Some require the assistance of opiod replacement therapy and that's fine.Addiction is a biochemical disorder that may require this protocol to offset changes to the brain.
For those who discount folks and use fear tactics to dissuade others needing subs or methadone need to educate themselves. RECOVERY BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. Congrats and keep up the good work:)

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I was taking close to 20 PK's a day, one day, I just couldn't do it anymore. I got help, now taking SUBUTEX. I only take a few mg's of SUBUTEX daily..A bit in the am, a bit at night, I have been off pk's 2 plus year's. I have not had any cravings what so ever! You have to want to stop, first and foremost. If you think you will relapse, take Suboxone..You won't relapse again I'm told. If you know you will stay clean, SUBUTEX is the way to go. I also refuse to take 2 and 3 SUBUTEX a day as it to me defeats the purpose..So I take half a day total..That's half of a 8 mg daily.
This is my opinion only, how I did it and what worked for me! What the guy said above..You will hear tons of stories...Just be true to yourself, get the help and don't turn back! It will help you if you want it!
Peace~

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I was in the hospital for a serious stomach condition actually.. So, to answer your question, nope, I wasn't coming "off" anything, I have been stable on Subutex for 2 years. If I was coming off of ANYTHING, I don't think they would've been given me so much morphine, plus my regular Subs & prescribed meds while admitted in the hospital for 3 days! Js

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Personally I like the bigger white subutex by Roxanne Laboratories. I think the orange ones by Actavis may be some of the cheaper generic ones though.

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To be honest bro you will hear a hundred different people tell you a hundred different things. I was on a hundred plus dollar habit a day for around five years. I had many detoxes and rehabs I went through during that period. I was given Suboxone when you couldn't get generics and it was relatively new on the market. Now you can get ten generics of Suboxone and Subutex. REGARDLESS: Subutex and Suboxone both contain buprenorphine. Buprenorphine is a partial opiate antagonist or in lamens terms it binds to the opiate receptors (miu receptors) with a much greater 'stick' than vicodin, oxycodone, etc. to those receptors. This means when you take either Subutex or Suboxone you are filing your opiate receptors with this super strong binder called buprenorphine. If you were too take any opioids or opiates the buprenorphine would not give it's "place" up to those drugs. The only real way to release the bond of the buprenorphine to the receptors is time or narcan (naloxone). Now about two years back I was in school to become an addiction counselor and we had a class that had one of the original reps. of Suboxone come in to lecture and for q & a. The question was asked about what keeps someone from feeling high while on Suboxone and of course the answer i just have above was shared. Now another person asked, "what's the reasons for the naloxone them?" He simply said it is one of many ways we keep people from diverting the meds (not be able to misuse them as much; for example intravenously). Long story short Suboxone was originally just buprenorphine in other counties until it came to America and the fda told the makers of the Suboxone they must come up with a way to at minimum make it harder to divert or misuse this medicine or they would have to reclassify it to a higher class which would make it harder for patients to get a prescription and so on.... SOLUTION: add naloxone cuz it gets destroyed by the acid in your stomach just like buprenorphine does, that why it's taken sublingually. They have also went from pills to film again in an effort to keep the rate of diversion of Suboxone to a minimum, not for helping patients, but to keep the fda off their backs. I know people will tell you differently but i promise this is the true reason and difference between suboxone and subutex and like any med done patients might do better on one brand or generic than another. Sorry but to answer your question, I took these meds for years and never quit, not cuz the suboxone didn't help, it's cuz I wasn't ready. Once i was ready and took the suboxone the way im suppose to i got clean and now have almost 3 years no Suboxone and five no opiates. Hope this helped... Check out this stuff for yourself cuz people that say that you can take subutex and still have opiates are just spreading rumors.

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I am trying to kick a heavy opiate addiction and am wanting to know more details about these new subutex and how well they work or don't work?

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And what were you in the hospital for exactly? Were you coming off either one of those two drugs or using both of our voting you down from something else?

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Not true, was in the hospital, they were dosing me Subs & 4mg Morpheine IV every 4 hrs.. Subutex does NOT have a blocker, therefore does not cause withdrawal if taken with another opiate period.

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Does anyone know where a Suboxone Doctor that writes Subutex near Ripley, TN would be?

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They taste just like the strips when they melt..NASTY!!!

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First of all, if you don't mind me asking, where do you live? Also, where were you given this information? I've been on the 8mg Roxanne Buprenorphine for about 3 years and only that brand because it's the kind my pharmacy stocks but I have read all of these horror stories about these other brands not doing what their supposed to and that is keep us clean and not sick everyday and it seriously worries me because Subutex saved my life and I haven't even once relapsed since I started them. But back to what I was asking, I read your post a while back so I asked my pharmacy and they denied the claims and said they had heard nothing about it being discontinued and I was speaking to the head pharmacist that told me this. But it wasn't enough proof for me so I called about three more pharmacies and their head pharmacists have me the same response but of course I also love in Texas so the laws could be different compared to where you live. I pray that they don't discontinue them here because they are the only ones I can afford due to zero insurance.

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I have explained that four different times on this page and people still want to argue. I mean I have my substance abuse pharmacology book right in front of me...getting people to understand that the buprenorphine in the suboxone and subutex is the blocker and is what causes withdraws when taken early, is like pulling teeth...

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