Ketamine For Depression? (Page 39)

It was recommended by the members of a separate thread that one be started that directly relates to ketamine and it's use to treat depression.

If anyone besides myself would like to discuss it's use as a treatment for depression, feel free to post your questions, answers and experiences here.

This thread is an offshoot of a related one that discussed a treatment of Scopolamine for depression.

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GOSH...I am sorry but cannot remember name-memory issues anyone??? The nice gentlemen that talked of meds did/did not work-just as an aside......statistically the meds (most) seeming to help-NOREPHENDRINE and DOPAMINE -Just let your Doc know and if he agrees...maybe you can get a combo that works well for you! If we can try to work with just these two- we bring it to a "smaller" place of healing.......and in healthcare, usually smaller means better outcome -you know what I mean...

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Thank you again for response-
Just a few quick questions
Dr. recommended or giving treatments?
How long effects last IV
How done? g. how may visits and doses recommended and I assume they also have a 'maintenance" program?
Just hoping-any info WILL help-I am so much like everyone here-* years-HELP!

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I was never prescribed that particular medicine. There are some people who say it is
great for Depression. If it helps someone with Depression, that is amazing.

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Sarah, I live in Cedar Rapids, IA. My nearest major city is Chicago, IL. I don't want to go the Ketamine route as it has messed up my life a lot. I haven't tried scopolamine. I'll look into it though. Thanks and I hope we both feel better soon, God Willing.

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Hi, Has anyone tried Paxil? It helps me. I take 40mg in the am and 40mg before bed.
I'm feeling a lot better, not 100%, but it's better at this time. I take alprazolam and
seroquel as well. I hope this can help someone. We all can help one another if we can.
Be well!

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Romeotaz,

You mentioned that you tried rTMS (I assume it was the repetitive treatment), and it did not work. You might consider finding out if anyone is using a different protocol. I have spectacular results with bilateral treatment (I think it is high frequency left and lower frequency right), but when they tried me on a new protocol (positioned more toward the middle) it didn't work. The doctor tried a third possible positioning and again it didn't work. But when they went back to the first protocol (this time with far shorter gaps between the pulses, so the total treatment time went from 40 min to less than 10) it was once again utterly successful. That the Wallace machine worked on the anxiety is a good sign. There is another machine which works with low level direct current, which I cannot recall the name of right now. Maybe dcTCS?

Another option to consider asking your doctor about is either switching something to, or adding, one of the older tricyclic antidepressants. I noticed you had tried one, but maybe desipramine or nortyriptaline? From what I understand, they have a broader variety of actions. The other advantage is that I think they are used in low doses for migraine prevention, so they might reduce the headaches if nothing else. Remeron is not used all that much, apparently it has strong sedative effects (not in me). It is another of the atypicals, available as a generic, and if anxiety is an issue the side effects might not be a bad thing.

I assume you are not getting headaches as part of serotonin syndrome. I've had a specific type of headache in the past if the meds were too high. Are you having symptoms suggesting the serotonin levels could be too high, and throwing other things out of balance?

Regarding the rTMS, I think the psychiatrist who does ECT at Mary Greeley Hospital in Ames, IA must be providing this treatment. He would be closer than Chicago, right? I can't remember his name, but he shared an office with Dr. Ellen Comen. We've considered moving back to Ames, and access to rTMS is one of the issues. Here in Ontario they are delaying coverage, and trying to decide to what extent they can limit access.

Hang in there,
Cai

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Does anyone know if having these treatments could possibly make your depression worse?

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Hi Steve,
How is the book coming? Do you know if a person can be on parnate (mao) medication and have the ketamine treatment? or If having the treatment could possibly make depression worse. I read on line where a psychopharmachologist /psych dr. said you could be on an (mao) But then I have also seen by a site by an er dr. that said you couldn't. I was curious if you have seen anything in your research on that. Sorry not sure why my computer is underlining in red.
My diagnosis is bp and I have been depressed for over a year and a half I thought possibly this treatment could help me ....I saw someone post after a long depression "there is no way to explain the level of suffering" and that is exactly how I feel. . I really hope you are doing good.

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yeah i know of a couple of physicians who are licensed to prescribe 8mg suboxone up to the 32mg strips in jackson, ms

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I haven't read of any cases where depression got worse (mania or schizophrenia, maybe).

Because the effects are short-lived, a bad reaction (like a bad trip; these are pretty rare) can be managed with supervision for about an hour (personal experience using intranasal dictates that taking xanax can help calm you down and bring you down).

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Thanks Sarah....
Do you happen to know if there are any other places to read about real life experiences besides this forum and Ketamine advocacy group?
I have been trying to ready anything I can on this treatment.
How are you doing?

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There is a Dr in Atlanta that does Ketamine infusion for $350 each.

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Hi Sarah,

Can I please talk to you about ketamine? I'm really considering this. Tomorrow, in fact. I'm just concerned about the cost and that any improvement will be short-lived. My cell is {edited for privacy}. Thanks!

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It has been announced that the FDA is fast tracking ketamine......could be FDA approved for treatment resistant depression within 6-12 months.

http:/­/­www.cnn.com/­2016/­08/­17/­health/­ketamine-depression-treatment/­

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Alli,

I don't know of any cases where the depression was made worse, but you should be aware that (at least with oral/nasal ketamine therapy) when it stops working the slide back into depression can be distressing until you get used to it. For me, the normal slide into depression takes a week or two, when the ketamine therapy wears off it is sometimes a gentle slide over a few days, but occasionally happens within an afternoon.

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I am looking for a doctor whom would prescribe ketamine for my major depression in the Hartford, CT. area. I am tired of feeling depressed and suicidal. I will be willing for clinical trial also.

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i wish to try it too.i have had major depression for a long time.tried many meds and coundeling.still i cannot shake the depression.i really want to try this medicine.i need to find a doctor in the hartford,ct.area that would help me.doctors do not like prescribing anything these days.have to go back to giving doctors incentives to prescribe from the big pharma.

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You are seriously in luck. Janssen is recruiting in New Haven, among other places, for a long-term trial of intranasal esketamine.

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT02497287

Everyone interested should check this out.

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Thank you very much.that is lucky.even better the chance it works and I no longer am in a living nightmare of depression and suicidal ideation.

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Ketamine has helped me tremendously, and esketamine looks very promising without some of the negative side effects. I wish you luck - please keep us posted and let us know how you're doing!

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