How To Get Off Suboxone Successfully - Step By Step (Page 16)
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If you are struggling with getting off Suboxone successfully, you may want to take the time to read this. I have read a ton of hype about Suboxone being impossible to get off. How the withdrawal symptoms carry on for days, even months. Below, I would like to encourage you and let you know that it can be done. I AM LIVING PROOF YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT!!! I have been free of Suboxone and all other drugs and alcohol for 3 months and I have never felt better in my life!!!

THE WAY THAT SUCCESS HAPPENED FOR ME AND CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU:

For months I read Suboxone blog sites in the effort to gather some element of hope that would encourage me to make the “jump” to get off my final 1/8 tab (1mg) of Suboxone. At the point I started reading these blog sites, I had come down from 2.5- 8 mg (total 20 mg) tablets of Suboxone. It was fairly easy to get down to 1/8 tab (1 mg). Don't get me wrong, I had moments of mood swings and depression that would fool me because of the way that the mood swings would creep up on me. I felt bipolar during the final ½ tablet to ¼ tablet and finally to 1/8th tablet before I “Jumped off”: The good news is that earlier dose decreases do not affect you as much as you would think. I went from 2.5 tablets to 2.0 tables per day in one week. I didn't even notice any withdrawal. Then, in just two weeks I had the courage to go down to 1.5 tablets per day…. Still, only slight mood swings. Then, I went down to 1 tablet per day a week later. Then 3 weeks later I went down to ½ tablet per day. Again, at this point only mild mood swings that I could deal with because I was expecting much worse. NOTE: I ALWAYS DIVIDED THE DOSES TO AM / PM DOSES.. IT HELPED.

THE BEGINNING OF THE CHALLENGING PART:

Going from ½ to ¼ tablet per day it started to get a little tougher for the first week in terms of mood swings and a tricky onset of depression. Expect bipolar behavior. Tell your family and whoever is in your life if you can. Let them know that they can pray for you if you or they are believers in God. If you don't believe in God, don't stop reading this posting.. I will get to the Spiritual side of things later in this posting. For now, it is my heart and hope that you will read this method of getting off Suboxone. No punches held though, I will be up front with you, I am personally a believer in the one true God- Jesus Christ. He is the One who encouraged me to get on this website and help you with encouragement, hope and truth about what to expect on this tough, but wonderful journey of getting off Suboxone. The choice to believe in God is yours, but I will say that the prayers of my dad and wife were powerful and effective. There was times when I simply could not pray for myself because I didn't feel sane enough to even pray at times, though I still gave it my best. I brought up the prayers right now for you because the bible tells us in Psalm 145:18-19 "The Lord is near to all who call on Him; all who call on Him in truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear Him. He hears their cry and He saves them". That said, let's begin the final jump shall we.

THE FINAL JUMP FROM 1/8 TABLET:

NOTE REGARDING SUPPLEMENTS: I wish that BEFORE I jumped off at 1/8 tablet, I would have used these endorphin boosting supplements. They can be found at just about any health food store. DLPA 1000 mg twice per day, GABA 500 Mg twice per day, Reloria two capsules twice per day, and 5HTP two capsules per day. I would have been better off to have started these supplements a couple of weeks prior to my final jump, but I strongly believe that they helped the process probably more that I could imagine. I am still on these supplements, now some 3 months off Suboxone. (I am not a doctor, nor am I acting in the role of a doctor, so as always please consult a physician prior to starting these supplements)

When I was on 1/8 tablet for 2 weeks I tried to completely stop taking Suboxone and had such a bad first night that it scared me into staying on 1/8 tablet per day, taken in the morning, for 2 months. The problem now lay in the fact that I was going through withdrawal in the middle of the day and a few times I even chose to drink alcohol in the afternoon. I didn't connect that the withdrawal was actually causing my fiending for drugs and alcohol. Those two months were not good times for me. When I finally came to the conclusion that I might be better off just getting off Suboxone completely, it was time to plan. I work for myself and I could hardly afford to take the time off work for fear that I might lose all my clients. I wasn't sure how long it would take to get off Suboxone and get back to a working state of mind? Drum roll please…. Here is how long it takes to start feeling better….

IT TAKES 6 DAYS BEFORE YOU START FEELING BETTER THAN YOU EVER IMAGINED!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY LIE!!!

What You Can Expect:

Day 1: This morning skipped my morning, and only dose of Suboxone. I worked out pretty hard lifting stretching and lifting light, high repetition weights. Don't forget to push yourself to work out even if you don't feel like it. It is hugely important! That night I took two Benedryl and it didn't work like I hoped it would. I was so miserable, achy body, cramping in my calves, a "drive a person crazy" kind of feeling. At this point I had gotten 2 mg tablets from the Dr. because I told her I needed to be able to cut them down while I weaned myself off of them. So I cut a 2 mg film tablet into ¼ which is .5 mg of Suboxone. In summary, I chickened out the first night. I did sleep after that for about 5 hours. For those of you who still have the 8 mg. tablets, this means that you would have to split one up into 1/16 which is pretty hard to do, but possible if you have good eyes and you don't cheat and take the bigger portion. :)

Day 2: The .5 mg from the night prior made this morning like a fairly normal morning. So I stretch for a long time and then worked out hard. After work out, I felt even better, but by afternoon the withdrawal set in again. Felt like I drank all kinds of coffee but I didn't . I was agitated and twitchy, making my mind and physical body feel terrible. To combat it, I stayed very busy all day with cleaning and yard work in the effort to keep my mind and body occupied. I couldn't focus on God yet…. My mind was too messed up. Yes, a person's mind can be too messed up to “feel” God, but trust me He was there with me. Hind sight I see that He was with me every step of the way. I just couldn't believe that He would let me go through such agony, but He is a God who loved me enough to let me feel the pain enough so that I would remember it. This way I would not go back!! Night came and I became scared that I would give in again, but instead about two hours before bed I took another couple Benedryl and this time it worked a little I slept about 4 hours and was miserable the rest. I recommend taking lots of warm baths or showers when you can't sleep, instead of just lying there.

Day 3: Day 3 and Day 4 are the worst. The greatest advantage you have though is that you are starting to get used to the twitchy, feeling like you are crawling out of your skin feeling. Go ahead and stretch your calves as frequently as you can. Flex them as often as possible. I heard from one doctor that it helps work the withdrawal out of your body. I did manage to get out in the yard and work on Day 3. I waited until I felt my best, then took advantage of the moment and went out and "spazzed out" on yard work as much as I could handle it. I even broke a sweat which lifted me up considerably. I took a couple of Benadryl before I went to bed, but only slept a total of about 2 hours the whole night. I couldn't focus enough to read, nor pray, nor watch a movie. None of that was going to happen, so I would either jump in the bath or shower or even find something to do I could tell that sleep was not an option. The first part of the morning on Day 4 is among the greatest challenges I have ever faced. Glad I did not have much planned, because Day 4 morning was the worst of the whole experience.

Day 4: Morning was awful because I was up the night before almost the whole night. That lack of sleep will mess with your head and try to get you to go back. On this day the middle of the day gave me a few very small ½ glimpses of hope. I felt my first surge of my own endorphins come back. Only a couple ½ hour spurts, but hey it gave me hope to NOT turn back. I figured I went this far, I might as well finish this.!! I thought I was going to sleep well this night, but it didn't happen…. Only 4 hours combined , but hey that was progress from the night before. Remember, baby steps. Celebrate the small victories. Relish them! Stay tuned and hang in there because the reward came to me in Day 5!!

Day 5: I worked out first thing in the morning. I pushed myself to do it. I started with a stretch routine. Then I felt like working out. So, try stretching first, then consider working out. I have in my notes 50/50 written down. This means that half the day I felt bad and half the day actually felt good. Did you hear that?…. I felt good. …. That is right … you can get past this. For half of Day 5 I felt better than I ever felt on Suboxone. It was natural and it was the way that God designed me to feel. My own endorphins made their first appearance and they showed up in fine fashion. The bad parts of this day caused me to want to take a nap, so if you have the liberty to do so, then by all means, indulge in that nap. Nap , nap , nap. Because if you answer the call to the mid day naps you will wake up feeling better each time. Don't worry about the extreme tiredness on day 5 and 6, just become a temporary nap person. Listen to you body and what it wants. God is trying to let you know what you need.

Day 6: Congratulations!! You have made it to the other side. I may have had 2 hours of bad feelings today , but the rest was AWESOME. I was productive, back to work, working out hard etc.

Day 7 and 8:

I am putting day 7 and 8 on here because I did hit some tired spells and down times but only a couple hours each day total. I encourage you to nap when you feel like napping. Also be encourage that it only gets better and better from here on out.

Why I Got Off Suboxone:

Everyone will have their reasons for getting off Suboxone. I can only share with you what my reasons were. If you have read this far then you must be pretty determined for your own reasons.

I started feeling like I was feinding for other drugs when I was on two " 8 mg tablets per day, so I asked my Dr. to increase the dose to 2.5 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs or alcohol again. So I asked my Dr. to up the dose to 3.0 tablets per day. Two months later I started feinding for other drugs, chew, alcohol etc. Are you starting to get the picture? This may not be the case for everyone, but it seemed to be the case for me. The whole purpose of Suboxone in the first place was to decrease these cravings and for a time, Suboxone was effective. It gave me enough time to get it through my head that I didn't want to be a heroin or pill addict anymore and that I wanted to get my life together.

Another reason that I decided to get off Suboxone was that I was also curious if it would feel better to just be on nothing? (Except the supplements that I mentioned above) The outcome that I came to is that I feel way better than I ever have in terms of physical, mental, and Spiritual well being.

THE TESTIMONY:

If you have read this far you may as well keep reading because the best part is yet to come. Remember, I am of the opinion that it was my faith in God that led me down this long and intricate road that I just described above called, "How To Get Off Suboxone " Successfully". God worked in ways that I never would have dreamed. I could have strategized all month long and never came up with the plan, method, or the outcome that God came up with. The Bible says in the book of Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways my ways", says the Lord.

You may not believe in God, or maybe you do, or maybe you know God, but stopped believing. If you are one who is running away or does not believe in God, know this, drugs and alcohol can certainly fog your view of God. It is my opinion that first you must get clean and sober then you have a better chance of making an informed decision as to God's authenticity.

Whether you believe in God or not, you will one day face Him. Either he will be welcoming, or judging you. I have chosen to give Him my life and submit to everything that is written in the Bible. I accept it as truth. The bible says that the Word of God is Living and Active. It also says that every word within it is inspired NOT by man, but by God. I have chosen to believe this and it has changed the way I think. Romans 12:2 "Do not conform any longer to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."

If this part of my testimony and experience sounds too Churchy to you, then at least do yourself a favor, … Ask God to help this "Christian talk" make sense to you. Seriously, have you even told Him that the "Churchy Stuff" makes NO sense to you? Have you even told Him that? Have you bothered to share that with Him? Do you know that He cares and wants to hear that come from your mouth? He wants to hear you humbly express to God that you don't know. Have you opened yourself up to the fact that if you open yourself up to Him that He will begin to show you the "mysteries" of His Word like you never imagined possible? 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land."

If you have read this far then, then I believe that the Spirit of God is calling you…. Listen to it!!! Jesus states that "My sheep hear my voice"

The place where you are if you are reading this is not a comfortable place. I have been right where you are. With all sincerity, I want you to get to where I am. True Joy is in my heart every day that I awake. There is a peace that surpasses all understanding that guides me now. I strongly encourage you to seek God first, because I want to see the peace of God enter your heart and mind.

RELAPSE PREVENTION:

For me, I have found that devoting myself to praying and studying my Bible and reflecting on what God has done and what He promises has been life changing. The Bible says, "Who is going harm you if you are eager to do good" 1 Peter 3:13, It also says, "a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself" Proverbs 27:12

I have a half hour to 45 minutes carved out each morning to spend reading my bible, praying much thanks and reflecting on what the bible is saying. I also listen to J. Vernon McGee on Through The Bible .org the web address is ttb.org. You can't claim to not understand the Bible, because this website WITH AUDIO walks you through the Bible verse by verse in an exciting way. And it is FREE!! If you don't believe the Bible at this point, try listening to the Dr. J. Vernon McGee's audios. There is a new one posted every day. Or check out the archives.

CONCLUSION:

I do hope that you put some thought into all of this. If you can't think straight right now because you have already started your final descent off Suboxone, then wait until you feel good enough to really absorb what I just shared with you through the "Testimony" section of this posting. I am not trying to sell you on anything… I simply care for you because that is what God has put on my heart. I have been through what you are going through and I want to encourage you. I would like to leave you with this scripture:

Revelation 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.

May God Richly Bless Your Life.

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Hi Brenda, In my opinion Withdrawal Ease is not worth the money. I tried them before and they didn,t seem to do much for me.
If you read other posts you might find vitamins that people have taken during there wd.
You can search something called Thomas Recipe. Some folks gave it good reviews.
I never tried it.
Like I said, thats just my opinion on W.E. Maybe you,ll have better luck with it.

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How do you feel about Withdrawal Ease that is highly recommended for help with withdrawals from Suboxone? It is just a llot of vitamins and you are supposed to take two every morning after breakfast.

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Thank you for the post. I want to encourage you to really trust that there is indeed another side. I am still there (no opiates, no Suboxone:) and you are right that you feel way better off of them. Also, everyone around you feels better too because they need you and they need to be needed by you too!!!!! I wouldn't expect you to remember what good times it was off opiates and how good you felt then, but I would only hope that you have faith that that little vague memory of those times is everything that you sometimes see it to be an MUCH MORE!! My prayers are for you to get there again!!!

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That is awesome I don't when you wrote this but I am wanting to taper down off also. I worry cause I have a two yr old so I can't just sleep when needed or feel bad but still gonna try I have to. I got off opiates long ago and remember how good I felt then cpl yrs later had three surgeries and right back I went. I commend you and thank you for sharing your story very inspiring.

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All I can say is thank you thank you thank you, I'm on day 6 I followed your post and read it hundreds of times. I'm 42 and have 2 boys this by far was the hardest I've ever taken on, I no I still have a ways to go but I have my husband here beside me. Thank you so much

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Hi there, I have begun to pray for you. I pray that God will see you through to the other side. There is another side. Please take that from me who is here on the other side. I encourage you to keep Knowing that God loves you and wants the best for you. I know that it is a longer process than we want to admit sometimes, but be encouraged that God is with you and knows how it hurts sometimes. Greater is He who is in you than He who is in the world. So if you can't... God CAN.
I believe in the power of prayer and I will pray for you every day now that you have taken a big step in telling another person where you are with all this!! THANK YOU for trusting me and telling me. I will take that info to God in my prayer right now. Keep me posted.

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Thank you. I think it's wonderful that you took the time to type this. I have been trying not to cry. I really need support. I am a long term opiate user/abuser. I started opiates in 1999 and it's 2014. Ugh. Sometimes I think that my brain has been totally rewired by the opiates. Now I am on 1.5 mg of Subutex and have been for about a year. Before the Subutex it was 32mg of Methadone for 1 1/2 years. I spent the whole year of 2010 in prison due to consequences of my addiction. So, I guess you get the picture. I hate to say it but I have little hope. I feel like I've exhausted my resources, if you will.

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Thank you for your blog. I am starting my detox jumping off at a very low dose as I’ve tried it at higher doses and had a hard time. This is not my first rodeo (detox). I read what you said about the Gaba, DLPA and 5-HTP. This is very good advice. I also found that in Julia Ross’ book the Mood Cure which can be found on Amazon used for about 5 bucks. Here’s the protocol for getting off opiates according to Julia Ross.

AM MM MA BT
Gaba 1000mg 1000mg 1000mg 1000mg

DLPA 2000mg 2000mg 2000mg

5-HTP 50to100mg 50to100mg 100mg 100to150mg

Freeform Amino Acids

I am also adding in Vitamin C 1000mg which is supposed to really help with Opiate W/D, a little magnesium (not too much as you don’t know how your bowels are going to react to the detox) and a ton of meat, fruits and vegetables. No sugar if at all possible as it will make you sicker.

I’ve researched this for months as I need to be able to have a very smooth detox. The other thing that I’ve discovered on my 2.5 years on Suboxone is that it has caused me a ton of joint and muscle pain and also severely screwed up my hormones. I have zero testosterone and zero DHEA and have become pretty weak. While woman don’t need that much testosterone we need some. This can be why I have the lethargy and exhaustion. If you can afford to get your hormones tested try taking a little DHEA with Zinc. Zinc will help DHEA convert to testosterone and some will convert to Estrogen without zinc. I am not a doctor, just have done a ton of research (A little OCD helps). The DHEA will help with mood and the PAWS, give you a little energy boost and help with mental fog.

Anyway onto the detox. I have 8 MG strips so I’ve been cutting and cutting over the past few months. I’ve literally gotten down to cutting them into 21 (half inch strips which is the width (which is .38) and then each strip I’ve been cutting into 6 tiny pieces making my dose .06 which I was taking once in the am and once in the evening (far less than most people jump at but I prefer the easier, softer way). Suboxone is very powerful, the doctors are giving us way too much. I dropped the evening dose about 5 days ago and had the RLS the first night only but that was about it. Since that seemed stable I skipped my morning dose entirely yesterday and got a pretty good headache last night and had the RLS again but with the help of some Benadryl, Melatonin and magnesium was able to sleep most of the night.

Just took some today as my plan is to skip one day, then dose, then skip two days and then dose, then skip three days, and dose, then skip four days, then dose, then skip five days, dose and then be done. Really focusing on getting this over with but I’ve tried jumping at higher doses and its been very hard. You have to be patient with Suboxone, it’s got a 72 hours half-life and your body needs time to adjust. Hoping the amino acids, DLPA , 5 HTP, GABA and the hormone balancer DHEA help a lot. I will keep you posted on my progress. Please note: If you are on antidepressants be careful with the 5-HTP and Melatonin. I am on a 75 mg dose of Effexor and 50 mg of Trazadone (which I am sure helped with the sleep too) so going to only use if for a short time until I feel fully detoxed. I suggest you get the book by Julia Ross, its seems very helpful.

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You bet Jose. Hang in there and know that the other side is better. I'm living an awesome joy filled life on the other side. I will start putting you in my prayers. Keep me in the loop on how you are doing. May God walk you through to the other side.

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thank you for ur story you gave me hope i tapered down to 1 mg and tomorrow i will not do any more. can you please stay in contact with me.

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My joints hurt too sometimes. I find that a heating pad on my feet while I work helps. Stretching routinely helps too. Finally, Lots of water. I drink about 4 liters per days. Stretch , Stretch, Stretch. When all else fails I go to the Chiropractor. Hope that helps.

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Shoot I couldn't barely concentrate on Television much less study... my head was totally useless. Robyn I definitely would retake the course at another time. Amen Humbled... life is better on the other side... I am so grateful. But I was thinking about something the other day, I've noticed my joints hurt now, (elbows/ knees) I was wondering if while I was living in my cloud for 3 years perhaps I pushed myself too hard and didn't notice the affect until clean.... any thoughts?

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Robyn, I would consider retaking the course at another time. I couldn't see studying during this process. I have been pot free for some time now. It was only a stepping stone for me. With my job, I need my complete whits about me so I had to cut it lose. I will be praying for you. I am wanting to encourage you that it can be done. Myself and Kris are living proof of a better life on the other side. Hang in there and do it for your relationship with God, because I have never been able to be closer to God that I am now being completely sober. Don't beat yourself up and please be patience. Ask God for the discernment to tell the difference between conviction and condemnation. Huge difference. Much love and heart coming your way in my prayers today. I am going to be on the road today for a long time and I will have plenty of time to talk with God. I will and have been praying with all my heart for you. Keep up the good work. Chey

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Can't take off cause of financial reasons but if I took a failing grade ie I wouldn't have to owe any money lol...I found that out and was considering it out of desperation. I can always take the class again.

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Robyn,
Can you take the semester off? It is hard to do things and get through this, but 11 days is a long way to come and give up, trust me it gets better and easier.

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It's been 11 days for me. I stopped smoking weed 2 days ago because I hated it...my heart just feels guilty...but since then I feel awful. I thought I was o.k. and with supplements I am...but they make me tired and so when I don't take them I still feel very dope sick...I need to function for work and school. I go to Liberty University online Graduate school and my mind can't study and stay focused... I'm going to see a pm doctor who has nutritional ivs acupuncture massage therapy and so many other holistic treatments...if that doesn't work I have no choice but to go back on subs.because I sit here everyday not able to do anything...my life is becoming ruined without something to help me thru

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Kris, Thanks for the post. The Lord has been good too us hasn't He. And now you, Robyn, seem to be moving in a great direction. Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on our own understanding; Acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path" . Big Thanks to you and Robyn for the honesty that I hope can help others.
Robyn, you seem very on the right path.!!!! Keep it up and keep me posted. My work has been stressing me out so prayers all around my friends.

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funny that you say that about emotions because for the past 7 years I've been on this suboxin train my emotions have been Heywire or just not all there but after taking all of these supplements and vitamins and amino acids it has only been 6 days and I woke up this morning after 6 hours of sleep after smoking a little bit and I had natural energy like I haven't had in about 10 years total and it was fantastic. I don't even need the percocets like I thought I did and I have a few left and I only bought 10 but I tried doing this a few months ago and had a hundred twenty of them it was enough and it kept making me sicker and sicker I didn't know what I was doing to myself. But I wish there was a way that we could get each other's information because if you really wanted to do this I would buy the stuff for you myself or even send you the rest of what I have because I have some extra things to use that help the process to go faster for me and I wasn't as sick. but tomorrow will be a week but I haven't taken a suboxone and I'm not sick at all with withdrawal or anything anymore and this natural energy is not normal but its just something I have to get used to it its awesome. Humbled I just have to thank you for all of your prayers because I know that they worked even today I didn't need a percocet but because I'm not used to being completely bare and having so much energy I took it anyway and then realized that I didn't like it anymore at all it was just disgusting feeling and so now I can move to the next level of freedom which I knew was coming anyway but all I can say is there is truly nothing better then being completely free from everything and I'm giving myself only one more month maybe two at the very most of the cannabis if I needed to sleep and that's it. But even then I'm going to try to go without end take as much natural stuff as I need to to get me back to where I need to be I have so much energy that I feel like I can exercise all day long this is so incredible I have to say. I wish I could tell everybody that is suffering to get off suboxone what we did because it really does work.

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God is what gets us through the worse off everything...and to be honest humbled I didn't follow a lot of what you wrote basically because I couldn't afford it...which is one of the many reasons I just had to quit but anyway what I took from your original post was your words of inspirational about our good Lord...like he meant for me to find it...just like I think he meant for me to lose my job last summer so I could stop putting that poison in my body...

I'll have to admit the green stuff did help with my anxiety but I've always been pro herb....i think alcohol should be illegal if anything of the 2....anyway sorry for the ramble just wanted to let you know how much your message meant to me and to let those struggling know it can be done...oh and robyn I forgot what it was like having emotions I at first would cry over everything it was weird. l

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Yeah, my goal is to be completely chemical free, but maybe staying on certain supplements as long as I need to (forever?). My mother is a strict, spirit-filled lover of Jesus, and she and my father are starting to believe the news reports on marijuana and how it helps. I don't want to smoke believe you me - but anything is better than this man made junk. I feel great, and I feel like I have some joy and other feelings back that I haven't felt in over 10 years, 7 of them on Subs, the other 3 on H. I'm reviewing some other supplements, but definitely will take them to keep my mood in the proper place.

I know it's only day 5/6 (started detoxing using Cell Food Amino Acid detox on Wedsneday but didn't think it was really working, and was thrown into full blown detox the evening of Saturday by accident, but not a mistake!) for me. Yeah, I'm still tired, but seem to have issues falling asleep. I'm going to see if the same goes for tonight about trouble sleeping, and maybe get melatonin?

I was so afraid that maybe I'd get chastised for talking about the green...but I had to take the chance and be honest for those who may try to run from God during the process because they are afraid they have messed up even during getting off Subs.

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