How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 21)

Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Please....I'm going to my doc Thu.

I don't know what I should ask for....should I switch from valium to xanax? What about gabapentin v. lyrica? I also read about toradol (NOT tramadol).

Went and got the SAM-E, Vitamin B Complete Complex and the drink mix. I've been taking it for 3 days so I'm not sure if it's helping yet.

I need some advice because I'm now down to 1.75mg and basically laying around most days. I really don't want to sleep for months getting off of this stuff.

I'm also considering taking a low dose of darvocet and skipping days of sub and going down faster. Does anyone have any advice on this? I mean, it's like my whole world revolves around my next dose. To make matters worse, I don't have a job or kids (I'm looking for a job) so the depression is awful. I know some of you are suffering much worse, but there's something about when you get down past 2mg or at 2mg that just makes you feel like wanting to jump off a bridge!!!!

I'm also planning on asking my doc for lexapro in addition to wellbutrin for the depression. I heard a girl in IOP tell me it worked for her & we are basically on the same "regimine".

Just need to know:

Should I stay on valium?
If I'm on 9 400mg gabapentins a day, what dose would be appropriate if I switched to lyrica? Also, would it be better?
Anyone had any success with toradol?

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Hey susan im not a doctor but i get the feeling that your substituting one for another the object is to get off this stuff i had a very bad experience with lyrica i was on it for a few months and my family said i was a walking zombie i truly have no memory of it if i was you i would try my best to do without eventually you will feel better and have the best quality of life i have been fighting addiction for about a year now trying to get clean of everything i was taking 20-30 1000mgs norco a day it started 15 years ago with a back surgery i still worked until a few years ago i worked for 25 years and had to retire due to another surgery that put 2 6in rods 10 pins and 10 skrews i got really badd abusing the pills but now for the past1.5 years i have been ttaking 2 8mgs suboxone a day it beats the hell out of 20-30 pills a day but now im trying to ween myself off suboxone its going very slow but im going to do it my pain level is getting better day by day and i feel better than i have in years i know you think you need something and as i said im not a dr they will probably give you whatever you want but be honest with yourself do you truly need it try your best to live without it try for awhile and see if things get better give it a honest chance i think in the long run you will see your better off without

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Hi Susan, and everyone else here who are getting off Subs! I just got a new and very reputable Pain mgmt Dr and this wonderful Dr is getting me off Subs by using Norco every 4 hours and 30mg of Morphine er twice per day. (I never had any previous addictions, I was put on 12mg of Subutex per day 3 years ago by a QUACK work comp Dr that gave it to me for pain) Now that I realize that I was never supposed to have been on it and that it's used to help people with addictions, I'm FURIOUS at the Dr who put me on Subs! My question is for ANYONE to please tell me if you've ever gone from 8mg of subs directly to morphine er and Norcos, as my new pain mgmt Dr PROMISES ME THAT THE MORPHINE er AND THE NORCOS WILL KEEP ME FROM HAVING "ANY WITHDRAWALS". Our plan is one month of these drugs while the subs leave my body with no wd's and then a 2 week taper off of the Norcos and Morphine er. Any and all experience and advice is greatly appreciated as I'm starting this tomorrow and I've never taken morphine, btw, my new pain Dr says this is a FOOL PROOF WAY TO GET OFF SUBS WITH NO WITHDRAWS, MOST DR'S DON'T TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT THE MONEY THEY GET FROM THE EXPENSIVE SUB PROGRAM! Please respond, I'm TERRIFIED of wd's, Thanks and GOD BLESS:-):-)

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I went to two PM doctors to help me get off Subs. I went to the second PM doctor because I didn't believe what the first PM doctor told me. Both of them wanted to put me on Opana ER and wean me down. I asked both doctors if I wasn't just replacing one narcotic for another and they both told me yes, but it is much easier to get off of the Opana ER than it is the Suboxone. They said the half-life is much shorter with Opana and after about two months of being on Opana ER, I have now went from 15 mgs. twice a day to 10 mgs. twice a day. The doctor said next month he may start me on 5 mgs, but he will determine that when he sees me again. He really has my best interest at heart, or at least I think he does. So far, so good.

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Hi Robert, thanks for your response and for sharing your story. I don't know anything about the medicine your Dr put you on (Opana?), but did you have any withdrawals? What do you think about the Morphine er 30mg and the 10/325 Norcos that my pain mgmt Dr is putting me on? Will this really keep me from having wd's? I picked up my prescriptions yesterday but I'm scared to do this, although my Dr says there's nothing for me to be scared of and I know he hasmy best interest at heart also. Robert, or ANYONE who has any experience with this, PLEASE reply to my post, Why am I so scared?! My Pharmacist also agrees that this is a GREAT WAY TO GET OFF SUBS WITHOUT SUFFERING ANY WITHDRAWALS

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Why doesn't anyone on this forum help by answering heartfelt questions and much needed answers and Support at a time when we are all so scared?

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Terrified blonde the dr that is giving you this sure way to get off suboxone is being honest i was offered the same exact treatment but i refused due to the fact that the reason i was put on suboxone was for being addicted to the norco but i will say this there is going to be some WITHDRAWAL symptoms they want be so severe that you cant handel them and get over them with a little willpower i know by now you know suboxone is not and does not help with pain so with that being said when you go through withdrawal one of the feelings is pain body aches and i promise you that will go away quickly do whatever makes you feel better hot bath heating pad whatever this is just temporary it will pass i have taken morphine and the norco both if you keep to his plan you will be ok a little will power and faith will get you past this im not a dr and no one on here is we can only give you our opinion and experience im in the process of trying to ween myself off the suboxone myself i dont want to do the pain medicine way it just scares the hell out of me my addiction was pain killers so i dont want to go back to that lifestyle i have been on 16mgs of suboxone for over 1.5 years and its taking me a little to do this but im not gonna give up. I hope this helped if i can help further ask if i dont know ill find out for you thanks and God bless

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Oh thank you so much:-) Great advice! My Dr says I won't feel ANY wd's, what type of wd's and how long do you think they will last once I start my first dose of Morphine er and Norcos? I also have Xanax and Soma for anxiety and severe muscle spasms for GETTING OFF SUBS, wha. Do you think? PLEASE RESPOND ASAP. HUGE THANKS AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU,GOD BLESS,
T BLONDIE

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T-Blondie you could have very mild wd all the way to severe everyone is differentits truly hard to say but im pretty sure yours are going to be so mild your not going to realize they are wds but they could be hot and cold flashes restless legg body aches nausea vomiting feeling tiered no energy there are so many i might forget you can feel like you have the flu but with the plan your following yours are going to be very mild im sure you should start taking vitamins and doing some exercise eat foods that are healthy and give you energy im not saying that as a bs way to get you healthy i know this from experience they help with the wd symptoms the more things you do to help the better off you will be i was almost to the point that my addiction was going to kill me 25-30 pills a day and still not feeling better i had to have the pills not to be sick not to feel high. it had came to the point that i mixed so much and took so many i ended up in the hospital. my heart couldn't take any more and stopped. i am so thankful i was given a second chance i had tried to stop ween down on my own with no success the wds will overcome any willpower i did have i put myself through so much pain and sickness you wouldn't believe but that last hospital adventure got me on the right path i started the suboxone program went to two strips a day wowfrom 25-30 to 2 then i went through a outpatient program it taught me so much im still going to a after care once a week im trying to ge. Off the ssuboxone myself i just want to be totall free of everytthing i have failed twice because i was trying to cut my strips in half and go to fastit is a very slow process for me i have got to go slow i have faith in you you can do this i have faith in myself and hope im going to succeed you have nothing to worry about the dr is going to help just stay focused and keep to his plan no matter what if you feel bad tell him do as he says and your wds will be so mild you want realize till you look back and say that was easy if i can help and be supportive im here thanks and god bless

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Hi slsmakingit, I just read your post t me and I'm in tears...Thank you so much for the advice,for the Pep Talk and for sharing your story with me. I feel so much better about beginning my Dr.'s plan. Until I read your post, I probably was just going to keep putting it off from fear of wd. GOD works in mysterious ways...I started getting severe lower back pain a few days ago, went for an MRI and I have a severely compressed nerve amomgst a few other slightly scarey results re:my back. The pain is so excruciating that I can't sit, stand,lay down (u get the picture), so now I REALLY NEED AND HAVE TO START my pain meds for this horrible pain. It feels like a non stop stabbing pain...worse than passing a kidney stone and worse than back labor when I gave birth to my son. My husband is the most kind person I know but he is very ANTI DRUG of any kind. I was so surprised last night when he came home from work and saw me in tears from the pain and he said, "Have your Dr give you some pain pills". He know I'm on Subutex,but didn't know what it was for and he was surprised to know that I have to be in wd before I can start taking my Norcos and Morphine er. I am the kind of person that I get dressed up,makeup, and keep a smile on my face and pretend that I'm not in pain...MY HUBBY didn't even know I've been in pain for so long. His support and your posts to me have given me the courage and the strength to stop the Subutex TODAY and Start o my Dr.'s plan as soon as I start feeling any wd's. Sorry this post is so long, but may I please ask you a few more questions? "How long do you think it will be before my wd starts so I can Start taking the pain meds? How bad do the Sub wd have to be before I can Start my Morphine er and Norcos? Also, since the Morphine er is EXTENDED RELEASE, will it start knocking the sub wd's right away when I start taking it? It's only 30 mg, think it's strong enough? I've never heard of mixing morphine with Norco, sounds scarey. Btw, you sound VERY strong and you have come a long way! You should be so proud of yourself! Look back at how far you've come from 20-30 pills a day, to where you are now:-) Don't beat yourself up for you past. I truly believe that addiction is a disease. Thank GOD that WE ARE BEATING IT! You have a friend in me, when you need to talk or just need a Pep Talk, I'm here for you. I'm new to this whole thing...is there a way that we can speak other than in these forums? I just wish I could speak to you in REAL TIME when I'm going through this. I look forward to your response:-) Thank You so much, T Blondie

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T blonde thanks you dont have to worry the norco will stop your wds and the morphine is er to last longer sorry to hear about your back problems thats my worst fear i know in the future i will have to have more surgery and then im back to the pain killers the rods in my back hurt from time to time but im good for now ive been on the same combination of meds before i can tell you the wds from suboxone are worse to me than the others they take longer to start and then last longer to get over this past sunday i got to ride my motorcycle and had a great ride i knowthis scares you but i can tell you his plan works great and you will have very little wds i don't want to scare you but seriously your back pain and problems need to be addressed before you put yourself through all this and then find out you have to have surgery if i were you i would try to have your dr do something now im sure your husban would agree then you can do it all at one time your not abusing anything you just are addicted there is a difference when i had my last surgery they put me on fentanyl a large dose per day and i took it for only three months didnt abuse it but got addicted to that thats when i got terribly bad after they took it away bu. Then i didnt know what i know now ive llearned the hard way i do wish they would let you give people your number on here if they wanted this is how we learn i didnt learn anything until i wen. To a prprogram here in Winston Salem. N.C. that has group meeting and we learn by other addicts. Who knew right but if i can give you some more advice im here and dont worry about the legnth of meggage thats how we all learn more on here everyone is different but we are all the same. Thanks, Steve

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Have u gone through the withdrawal of Suboxone? Because I promise, the average person is gonna go through more than 1 day of withdrawal. I am doing it for my third time now and have been on it for a total of 5 years. It is not as bad as H withdrawal, but it has all the same symptoms, just slightly weaker.

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Yes ive been thriugh wds from suboxone to me they are worse than the wds from norco ive never done h before i think she was talking about having to already be in withdrawal to start the morphine and norco when she starts taking those her wds will go away the morphine and norco will make the endorphins in her brain to react and then after the time the dr keeps her on them he is going to ween her off slowly to minimize her wds ive never heard of anyone just having wds for one day but hers will be very minimal duing the drs plan thanks ssprinkke

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YEAH MY DAD SAID I SOUND LIKE THAT AND I CANT FIGURE OUT WHY, I THINK I SOUND FINE. GUESS
NOT! BEEN ON SUBOXONE FOR FOUR YEARS AND I AM JUST BEGINNING TO TAPER. MY DOCTOR IS CARING, FORGIVING AND VERY UNDERSTANDING AND WORKS WITH ME IN MY SUBOXONE PROGRAM. I LOVE HER.

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I need help I need to get off suboxone been on it for years iv had enough

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You can get help from pain management doctors to get off subs? Can anyone do that?

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YES:-) I just got off Subs with NO WITHDRAWALS! I was TERRIFIED, it seemed too good to be true, but I am following my wonderful Pain Management Dr.'s plan and I literally haven't ANY wd's, I'm so GRATEFUL, because everything on the internet says that sub wd's are HELL! Dr's don't tell people about this PAINLESS Sub detox because they are making so much money by keeping people addicted to Suboxone/Subutex. How long and what dosage are you on? Please reply to me asap, I can help:-)

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Terrified blondie see i told you you had nothing to worry about im proud of you great job now just keep up the good work i wish mine would g. That great but as i said before the pain killers are my worst enemy but i truly am proud of you great job

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Terrified Blonde - I am now taking about 2 to 4 mg strips per day. I can easily stay at about 2 comfortably - I take 4 on days I'm frustrated - but I just got some more amino acids and other supplements which are helping a lot! Strips are much stronger than pills but strips leave your body somewhat quicker I believe. Anyhow what do I do?

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I've been on subs 7 years and 6 months and I've weaned myself from 24 mg to 2 to 4 mg per day.

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