How Long After You Stop Suboxone Do You Have Withdrawal Symptoms? (Page 54)
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My 63y/o mother survived chemo and radiation for throat cancer but was unable to stop the morphine 15mg twice a day without horrible withdrawal symptoms. Her MD put her on Suboxone 8mg/2mg once a day in June. She even took half the strip on most days and the doctor was very pleased and anticipated that she would be able to stop altogether in November. She unfortunately had a stroke 14 days ago and has been in the hospital. The first 7 days she was confused from the stroke but now she is weak and forgetful but is no longer disoriented. She told me tonight that she thought she needed her Suboxone. She said she thought she was going thru withdrawal. I was floored. She is not having any outward signs of withdrawal: no back/stomach pain, no nausea/vomiting, no sweating or tremors. Isn't 14 days long enough for the Suboxone to be completely out of your system and for withdrawal symptoms to have come and gone??? Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

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I was on suboxen for 2 years and quit for 8 months and then started using again for about 2 months. Are my withdrawals going to last as long as they did the first time even though I wasn't on it as long this time? And does injecting sub make the withdrawals last longer? I'm goin on 24 hrs and it's getting pretty rough for me

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I was on Oxy 5 four times a day for 6 years then Wanted treatment and found subox, looking back I did the right thing Wanting to get off just had no idea I was train one addiction for a far way worse one , I've tried to quit a fee times cold turkey was insane good luck making it to day 5 , I did once and thought I was better ? Nope the half life really kicks in and makes u want to drink do drugs anything to make u feel I better , I went crazy for a summer and now we are in 2014 most of the depression is gone and it was bad sneezing , restless leg is the worse with insomnia it will rattle u to the core of your soul , I finally after all the months of drinking and drug use trying to kick subs realized it would of been WAY EASIER just stoping the original problem,, I've kicked many habits crack coke drinking however subs are made by satan himself the worst possible drug there is If u have a good doc that cares about u they will do it right constantly reducing your amount but mine wante me on it for life and I had to run away lost my job didn't care life spiraled but now almost 7 months into it I'm feeling better just the last two days I could sleep right Music is back , world is color , life is coming back I would NEVER EVER tell anyone to use it Way easier to stop the original addiction they each are painful and no fun but sub is way worse way way way worse and you will have a harder time stoping it than anything In the end I would take a razor to a film and slice a 1/16 inch that would last two to three days of just keeping me in the stoping game still is hard even now You have the s***s for months. I feel sorry for someone in a hospital bed make sure u don't cut her off all the way listen to her When i did. My four day original hell I had got arrested , they locked me in a cell for four days and by day two and three my heart went crazy and the cos didn't care finally the nurse told the guards if u don't let him out to walk he can have a heart attack as painful as it was I am happy that happened it took my dose down to a fraction to feel ok
I think it helps one that super bad on opiates but just realize do not stay on them use it to just feel kinda bad until u taper if u keep taking them u will find out first hand what a horrible horrible thing they are to kick

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Blue, You should be fine, maybe hard time falling asleep for a couple days or something like that. Sooner you stop taking them the easier it's gonna be. Just taking them for several days like you been doing should be a walk in the park stopping them. This is day 9 sub free for me!!!

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I see this is an older post, but I was also on Suboxone for over 7 years. Some of these "Doctors" (Dr. Duane King - Birmingham AL) are nothing more than dope pushers. They charge more than any other doctors, then when I was ready to try and quit, my doctor wouldn't tell me the best way to ween off. I tried quitting several times during those 7 years, and finally I just went from 8mg 3x a day to zero cold turkey. It was hell for the first few weeks, but be positive and keep your eyes on the prize. You will make it though to the other side.

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What size tablets? 2mg or the 8mg? and 3 of them in 4 days, you might feel a little uneasy for a couple of days, if you put the 8mg tablet under your tongue.. but if you were taking the 2mg tablets for 3 days.. you should have next to nothing in the withdraw area.. and certainly no PAWS. Everybody is different, but 4 days is nothing honestly. Certainly quitting suboxone after only 4 days, is 100x better than quitting after 4 days of percocete usage. But its the other way around, if you are a long term user of suboxone. Trust me you dont want to go thru it.

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Jolter:
Do you think I will go through any withdraw if I've only used 3 pills in the last 4 days?

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Ill be approaching 90days clean this Saturday. Hard to believe actually. Never went to counseling except during my 4 day stay in hospital. Its just I felt too horrible to even leave the house for those first 35-40 days, otherwise I would have went. But I made it, and what I find hard to believe, is that the PAWS are completely gone, this quickly. Ive heard that they can last up to a year or longer in some long term users cases. And being on suboxone for 8 years, I thought I would be doomed with PAWS for at least a year. Im guessing, and its only a guess, but the amino's and herbs I took from day 1 of quitting suboxone, has helped rid me of the PAWS.. other than that, I do not know why they did not last longer. I always heard you could have good weeks, then they come back.. but they have not come back yet.. maybe they will one day...I hope not. I feel better than I ever have in the last 8 years. And hoping you all can have this same feeling very soon.

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Thank u for ur post. It makes me feel better knowing someone else is doing the same. I quit cold turkey I was once a RN and can vouch personally having done this before with IV'able opioids its as good as any I've done it all. My sincerest best luck to u. I sleep fine but I have good medicine. Hang in there. A better life awaits.

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Ya, I can vouch for the hot showers/bath and the excercise in my opinion is crucial.
It,s sunday and a work day for me. Little to no sleep last night,felt like crap this morning.
Actually felt better at work just moving around.
Starting to feel like crap again after sitting around house since I got home.
Gonna walk around block then take hot shower before going to bed.

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Today is day 18 for me and things are starting to get a little better. Still have some anxiety and restlessness at night but it's getting better. I think the magic number will be day 21. At least that's what my doctor says. It is tough but well worth it. If you are coming off suboxone still go to counseling. It helps a lot to talk to a professional and it will help with your sobriety. I will continue to update as I go through this journey. God bless all of you.

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again, its not the dosage of suboxone you are on. its the length of time that is the killer. yea, that person will still have withdraw's but I doubt they will suffer the wraith of PAWS... still, being on opiates for several years, and suboxone for a week.. thats a tough one to call. I still think the way to go is tryptophan, and valerian root for the depression and anxiety. As for sleep issues, that was the worst for me. 36 days or so with no solid sleep...your brain quits making seratonin, because of the suppression of neurotransmitters in your brain. but again, you have only been on subs for a week, so I do not really think I have all the answers for you. I do know that several hot showers a day do wonders during withdraws. and exercise and tryptophan ease the depression, while valerian root helps with anxiety.

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Hey Seaniebouy, It,s day 7 for me sub free today. I started at 12mg myself around 3months ago.
I tapered dose down to roughly .5mg before I jumped last monday.
Good lord, 12mg is a very high level to jump off at.
Hows sleeping going for you?
Best of luck to both of us!

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i found to avoid sub withdrawals just to take them at the height of ur opiate withdrawal...maybe 3 max of the subs over a period of 5 days and ur cured of both...u mite get lingering effect if u r a long time addict but the worst of it will be over

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Thanks for your reply. I didn't use it because I had an opiate habit. a friend of mine gave it to me for pain. I have been using 54 775 white pills for about three days now. I have one more pill left. Just was wondering if I would go through withdraws when I stop. What do you think?

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Yeah, I agree. I was on 12mg of suboxone for a year and a half. I quit seven days ago and still feel chilly and yucky. Anxious and all that stuff, but I'm gonna suffer it thru cuz I just don't want to be on some doctor sponsored addiction. I didn't decrease dose cuz Its expensive and I dont have the money for it. Really struggling, but hangin in there.

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Hey Blue, It,s hard to say. How much subs have you been taking a day?
What were you taking and for how long before you started the subs?
Subs definatly help with wds but there not magic. What I mean is if you had a 3yr. Oxy habit or whatever and you took subs for a week and just stopped theres still a good chance your gonna still feel like crap just because your body is so used to having some kind of opiate.
I,m no doctor this is just my opinion. I,ve never just taken them for a week.
One thing I do know is the longer you take subs the harder it,ll be to get off them.
I would think the shorter time your on them the easier the wd off them if that makes any sense.
Wish I could be more helpful. Maybe someone else can weigh in on this.
It,s great if your trying to get straight and good luck.

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I've been taking buprenorphin for a week now and want to stop the drug. Will I go through withdraw?

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Subotex Guy, I fully 100% agree. I was addicted to suboxone for an extremely long time. And yea, tapering down weekly is going to be likely too quick, and as you said, doing monthly taperings is probably the way to go. If someone can get down to 1mg per day, jumping ship from that dosage might not be too bad, But what do I know. I never jumped at 1mg.. I did it at 6mg, and it was a complete nightmare. I have to imagine that at 1mg per day for a months time, going down to 3/4 would not be too difficult. As long as the person has done the right preparations... I only wish I would have tapered..but there is a reason for everything. And I was put into a situation where there was only 1 choice. Suboxone is highly addictive, and the dangers of its long term use are not talked about much. It can change the nuclear chemistry of your brain function. Its not a good thing at all. And Suboxone is 10x more potent than morphine. Most people do not realize this. And yes, it helps people get off their addiction, but it "can" create another addiction, where the withdraws and PAWS can be much much worse, if not tapered down the correct way.

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Hi, In my opinion a person that was addicted to opiates, and then used Suboxone for a period of time will be addicted to Suboxone (or dependent may be better word) and would need to taper dosage over a period of MONTHS. Getting to 1mg Suboxone seems to be the area where going lower is difficult. One needs to take fractional doses, very tiny doses. I built a program for entering dose and plotting your blood plasma levels of Suboxone (or any other drug) you can find it by searching for the Suboxone Taper Charting Tool. It is a Silverlight application.

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To Azumpire, Thank you so much for info and the words of encouragement. I started popping vitamins today and hoping for the best. The past two days were the worst but today seems to be a little better. I think actually getting some sleep has helped. My doctor gave me ambien but after reading about it I was afraid to take it. Nite before lastI couldn't take it anymore and said to hell with it. I took one, closed my eyes, and actually slept for 4.5 hours. I did the same last night and after two nights of getting some sleep I feel a little better. Im not going to take it tonight because it is also habit forming but im hoping with the amino acids and some night time herbal tea before bed I shouldn't need the ambient. I am so glad I found this msg board. Its amazing how much people just posting their experiences helps. Two and a half weeks of hell but I am not alone and thanks to some great tips, good advice, and encouraging words everything is going to be ok. Hang in there everyone. One day at a time is key and each day clean is an accomplishment. Theres a happy, drug free, normal life waiting on all of us and we are one day closer today

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