How Long After You Stop Suboxone Do You Have Withdrawal Symptoms? (Page 11)
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My 63y/o mother survived chemo and radiation for throat cancer but was unable to stop the morphine 15mg twice a day without horrible withdrawal symptoms. Her MD put her on Suboxone 8mg/2mg once a day in June. She even took half the strip on most days and the doctor was very pleased and anticipated that she would be able to stop altogether in November. She unfortunately had a stroke 14 days ago and has been in the hospital. The first 7 days she was confused from the stroke but now she is weak and forgetful but is no longer disoriented. She told me tonight that she thought she needed her Suboxone. She said she thought she was going thru withdrawal. I was floored. She is not having any outward signs of withdrawal: no back/stomach pain, no nausea/vomiting, no sweating or tremors. Isn't 14 days long enough for the Suboxone to be completely out of your system and for withdrawal symptoms to have come and gone??? Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

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No it's not, Suboxene is the devils drug worse than any opioids by far. It's been 9 weeks and I'm just starting to feel non suicidal, still sneezing often, still ups and downs but definitely way better than weeks ago

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AMBER,

Good choice, just the relief of not working for a piranha like company (Comcast/ xfinity) alone should ease your anxiety. It sounds as if seeing the doc will legitimize YOUR path in your own eyes. EVERYONE'S journey should be validated by those closest to us. Be it here, family or friends. We ALL need to be kind to ourselves and others. God bless.

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I didn't get a replied but it came down to me putting in a resignation. I quit my job. Probably won't be on here for a while keeping my doc appointment good luck everyone.

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Erin: 7 to 14 days will get you through detox and into withdrawals. There are many forms of withdrawal and it sounds like you are starting to get them. This is a good thread so read from latest post first back about 200 posts and you will get a mountain of knowledge.

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i just stopped suboxone 6 days ago and wondering when withdrawals start. I believe i am experiencing them now do to my restless legs an stomach pain. I felt like s*** the first two days an now its just annoying cause my anxiety is crazy. I could make a whole 12mg strip last a week cause i only took pieces of it.

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Tommy C - That is a frightening thought that the pins and needles could be permanent. This is the worst part for me personally because I have told you about my faith. I can hardly pray like I used to. When I get still and try to, that sensation kicks in. I will continue to post here as time goes on to keep you abreast of whether it has gone or not. The crazy thing is that we here going through this are the ones with the experience and not the doctors. I have read many posts and there isn't much info except for those going through it. Most doctors don't seem to have a clue at all. Take care my friend and please keep posting :)

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Thank you all for your support. I forgot to mention again that I do not have a doctor I actually buy them from someone. I don't take a full strip but pieces of it through out the day. My boyfriend is so much stronger than me but then again I really think it affected us differently. I can't imagine how he could feel this way and just be done even though at the time he worked construction. He told me he was so busy he didn't even tink about it. I feel like I need that but my mind is just set on waiting for the draining feeling to start so I know I'm about to withdraw and take a piece. Right now I work at home. That sounds totally easy to withdraw from at home but its not. I work for a Comcast call center. I get the worst customers and I have caught myself getting attitude back with them. Like right now I'm suppose to be working. I have clocked in but I'm just sitting here not logged on to the phones, filled with anxiety for the calls I'll get. I can't handle it. People treat you like you are the company and that you're nothing. With the problems I'm going through that is the LAST thing I need to hear.

June 2nd I have a doctors appointment for my depression and anxiety. The reason I haven't told a professional is because I don't want to be noted as an addict. I don't want that on my record. I don't want to be classified. I hated the word for the longest time. I never in my life have been addicted to anything. And two, I just cannot let my family know. I'm already the black sheep of the family. Yes I am a christian but I fear for their judgement. I also don't want to disappoint my mother and sister. When I was 17 I got pregnant with the same guy I'm with now (about to turn 24 june 9th) and she works for the hospital medical records. She tried to hide the fact I was pregnant she was so embarrassed by it when I went to the hospital she wouldn't tell the front nurse I was miscarrying. I haven't seen my sister who is 15 minutes away in over a year. I don't see anyone.

Anyway my boyfriend is supportive. He told me its OK if I lose my job and be without for a bit but I don't want it all on him. This job isn't for me, home or not. I feel like I'd be better out talking to people who pretend to be nice lol. What do you guys think I should do? Give up and go to a doctor and say look I'm an addict but I tried to do better but now I'm on suboxone? Or don't tell, get the depression pills and taper myself without a job for a while? Get a new job? Idk I'm really stuck. Thanks everyone.

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Tom c, I've died for over 5 mins. First of all God sent me back. I'm just telling u after taking opiates for 10 yrs suboxones saved me. Stop listing to drs, if u dont walk the path then how can u describe it? Suboxones r addictive physically and mentally. If the mentally part wasn't there it would be easy. If u take opiates 4 yrs it's gonna take at least 2 yrs to recoup. Subs r an inhibitor, it blocks the receptors in brain and that allows u not to need the natural dopamine to flow. it kind of tricks the brain. Any other drug u take u need to increase your amount. Suboxones r not like that, u can stay on the same amount without uping your dose. 4 mgs is all u need. 2 in morning and 2 around 5-7 PM. u won't feel high but that's not what they're for. Suboxones r a cruch but it's legal and don't think like u do on opiates. it takes a couple months of slowly reducing a little at a time. I've been off them 3 mnths but couldn't stop thinking about cravings. I own my own lil house fence deck businesses. Money is my trigger. I lost everything before being homeless. I spent 50 grand in less than a yr. Some say I may need subs for the rest of my life. I don't know but I've been off opiates 2 half yrs now started on 3 suboxones a day, 24 mg. It took 1 mnth to get down to 4 mgs. I've been on that steadily, 2mgs when I wake up and 2mg around dinner. Opiates reprogram your brain. I've saved about 5 of my friends. I know what I'm talking about. Suboxones r safer and healthier than methadone. Suboxones don't make ur brain wanna chase subs. They r hard to get off of and u will go back to opiates every time u stop to soon. It's work, but worth it. Everybody's body is different and just because 1 person can do short term treatment doesn't mean the next guy can. Subs r the less evil of the two. If u abused suboxones it's harder get them prescribed. They used to prescribe me 4 8 mgs a day. I never needed more than 1. Once ur stable u can't even tell the difference. I can't tell from a whole pill to half once I slowy tapered down. I also consume cannabis. I take 4 milgrams of suboxones a day. I'm a Chicago boy. I'm so glad God has allowed me to still be alive. I shouldn't. I was dead for over 5 mins. Most people after 3 mins r brain damaged with no oxygen to their brain. It takes yrs if you've been on them for yrs. Honestly I may need at least 2 mgs for the rest of my life. I'm 40 and in shape. Working out/exercise helps. Hope this helps u a lil more to understand. God bless and don't give up.

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Chidler: What do you mean you wing off of it lightly? Suboxone shuts down dopamine production and depending on how long you have been on Suboxone it can take two or more years to get the dopamine to start to produce. There is nothing easy to getting off of Suboxone. It is not addictive; just physically dependent. What a lawyers' play on words. I do not understand some of your post.

Lissy: I was 68 when I started my journey off Suboxone. Your dad can do it if he wants to. I was 5 yrs on OC's and 5 yrs on Suboxone. Wasted seven months weaning. If I were to recommend getting off it would be cold turkey. I had severe stomach cramps the whole time I was weaning. The fist 4 weeks are the worst but can be made very tolerable with the proper meds, food and sleep. Suboxone withdrawal is not any more painful than the other opiates, it just takes much longer to recover. Sometimes up to two to three years. Just getting your mental and physical sensitivity back makes it worth it.

I need to rebuild my strength and stamina while my brain heals if it ever does. The Parathesia (burning and tingling) may be permanent nerve fiber damage.

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Sorry if u take suboxone or methadone recreationally ur dumb. Opiates are what suboxone is for. Opiates reprogram your brain. Suboxone is an inhibitor. It blocks the brain receptors from dopamine. Suboxone doesn't mess your head up so if u take suboxone for different reasons than it's intention then ya it's hard to get off of, but at least u dont have to keep uping your tolorence and u wing off of it light weight. Sorry I died on street drugs and I should not be here. For 5 mins I was going to a scary place. Thank God for suboxones saved more than my life.

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Tommy C

Thanks for sharing that info. It breaks it down to where most patients and layman alike can grasp the damage that can be afflicted in the name of science and most of the rest are just clueless to. God bless...

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Lissy and Tommy C- Wow, Lissy the pins and needles sensation is kind of what Tommy C and myself are referring to. It's like when you have a foot that falls asleep only you feel like that all over your whole body. Tommy C-I love how much research you have done and found out and that totally makes me see things a little more clearly because the sounds are so sharp when I have buzzing going on that I just feel like flipping out everytime I hear a loud noise or anything. It's amazing that there is a freaking reason why, thank god I am NOT crazy, but as you said Tommy the brain pain can come and go. I pray to god for you guys also to heal and that I heal as well. It really is horrible that we all are in this situation but Tommy I think it's great the good you are doing that was done from the damage. I myself am writing a self help book about all of my experiences. Please keep me in the loop. I'm going to look up Cannicaps Tommy, was wondering what they were but some of my last post was cut out.

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I thank you kindly. Is this where all these headaches come from as well? My sleep is still messed up really awful, even after a year. Do you know anything about the pins and needles sensation that I have been experiencing? I hope all of this will heal in time. A year out and I still struggle with energy and motivation. I have finally reached the point where I'm not constantly thinking about how bad I feel. I was on opiates and other drugs for many years and 8 years on Suboxone. I imagine I did a lot of damage to my brain and body. I go back and forth in my thinking on Suboxone. I am grateful that I now am clean from drugs, and I wonder if I didn't have the Suboxone if I would be clean now. It is a terrible drug taken for long term...I even started to abuse it near the end. Doctors don't know much about it. As a matter of fact, my doctor said he wished he had never put any of his patients on it. There are some of us who are able to break free but what about the others? My Daddy is 60 years old and he takes it and I worry that he wouldn't be strong enough to come off of it. At least he can witness through me that it can be done. GOD bless you

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Lissy: The receptors assigned by your brain and Central Nervous System CNS have been shut down like everything else. When they start to work again the effect is about ten times what if you were normal it would sound like. If there has been damage caused to the nerve fibers in your ear nerves you are faced with a two way pain. 1) Brain pain where the issue is in the brain connection and 2) Acute pain where you create the damage at the source such as getting hit in the ear with a ball etc. The brain pain is harder to track and is not controllable. It will come and go. Acute pain either heals or you can see why visually or via blood work like with diabetes. For me the sound is a deep buzz. It comes and goes. Remember everyone is a different case in this Suboxone situation.

Makes me mad to see the Pharms advertise this stuff creating the illusion you will be clean when in truth you are jumping into a pit very few can ever get out. I gave you more than what you asked about but it seemed relevant.

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Can you please tell me what you guys mean by buzzing please? Rebekah, I lifted you up in prayer and continuing to do so <3

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TommyC- 2 days no naltrexone, stopped all my vitamins, no xanax, but have taken my lyrica 3 times a day and tizanidine 2mg x2 about 3 times a day, weird no buzzing for a couple days but I'm scared cause I'm pretty sure it'll come back and when it does its horrible. I'm thankful to have met you through here. {edited for privacy}. It's hard when very few can understand what you are going thru. I've found way more people on here then anywhere else. Today's going better. It's funny because I prayed 2 days ago asking to be healed and then no buzzing the day after. Normally first thing I reach for is my naltrexone, but I forgot all about it this morning, and realized I wasn't buzzing!! Amen!! I'm sure it could and probably will come back, but at least I am on a break for now!!

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Rebekah: Stick to a daily regimen of klonopin because it does calm you and is very important In healing your brain. I visited my Psychiatrist and was very upset. Through ten years of going from one mg of klonopin to two mg of klonopin and 115mg of OxyContin with three vicodin, one might think to consider is this guy in pain or is he covering up his anxiety issues with opiates? My new PCP ask that within two minutes after hearing my background. I am at 13 1/2 months off subs and still have issue related to the brain damage it caused within the neurotransmitters. BRAIN PAIN SYNDROME!

My wife is very supportive even though it is hard for her to understand. I live in Michigan and there are zero support groups in my area between Flint and Detroit. Very few people are successful at getting off subs and the medical professionals in the know are well aware of this. Most have been extra helpful.

I am making my own cannicaps and they are so good at killing the pain, anxiety and other issues. Some days I forget to take the klonopin because the cannicaps are so effective. They are also non addictive, help appetite and sleep. They calm you down and last for about 14 hours.

I want to hear from you and listen to you thoughts and issues. I understand the difficulty in your situation. Doing this with two children is brave and strong. #1 Be a good loving mother and for now the hck with anything but you and the kids.

Just had breakfast with another Suboxone survivor this morning who is an excellent chemist and a fabulous helper.

Don't you dare give up without talking to me directly. We have the answers because we have been through it. One of the Hospital pain clinics in Flint calls me when they have Suboxone withdrawal questions. A few weeks ago the head Doctor told me I was at least three years ahead of them because they have so few patients with the fortitude to stick to the Suboxone withdrawal program which they are trying to put together by trial and error. Everyone is very different so each case has to be handled individually.

I am available to help and answer questions for anyone serious about breaking free from this addiction. God loves you.

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No I've been on suboxones 3 yrs it take about 3 months 14 days trust me she is withdrawing still it's made to wing off not cold turkey give the poor woman her suboxones

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Rebekah I don't know what you mean by buzzing? Are you talking about that feeling you get when you wake up and feel like you're being shot out of a cannon? I waited until about 3 months off of Suboxone to stop the Klonipin. I know you don't want to become addicted to them, but they help a lot. When I was ready to quit them, my doctor changed me to valium and I took tiny pieces for about a month and quit and believe it or not, I barely had any withdrawals from it. When I say tiny pieces, I mean tinyyy. In your case, and I am definitely not a doctor, I would tell you to take the Xanax. This too shall pass. I will be praying for you and I mean that, not just little prayers but real fervent prayers. I too had the screaming fits and bursts of rage but it will go away. It's your body and brain healing. I felt like it would never end but it does. I could barely bring myself to do much of anything besides take care of my (at the time 3 month old and 5 year old) children. My house was a wreck and my husband yelled at me about it all the time. I was like that for almost a year. It made me angry that he couldn't see I was doing the right thing and thought I was faking. It will get better. You just gotta keep telling yourself that you can do it. Don't give up. I would make sure that your exhusband doesn't know your address and that you have a restraining order. I can't believe that they let him out so soon! Our justice system is not just at all. Hope that you have a better day <3

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I'm so tired of walking up this way, I feel like giving all my chips back and going back on subs. I am not going to do that but this is awful. I can barely manage life in general I freak about 2 times a day like shaking yelling sometimes or raising my voice, I just don't know what to do anymore I didn't take the naltrexone today I'm thinking about going to er. I have been put on xanax but haven't taken any in 2 days until this morning because of the addiction it can form I'm trying not to take it every day. I get so wore out after the panic attacks I'm exhausted and start nodding of when doing paperwork and then like magic 5 minutes later I could be having another panic attack. I'm just so frustrated and scared right now about how my life got here and yah I'm way better then I was on subs but now I understand truly why addiction is so hard. Please someone respond I really need support right now. 129 days off subs. I'm hurting in my heart truly. Why, why, why I just keep saying you know. My ex-husband who stabbed me and punctured both lungs is getting out anytime anyday, that's why I started the pain meds and before I even knew it i was abusing them. He gets to walk away. What bull s....27 years and he is walking after 5...........is it just me and TOMMY C who get the buzzing or does anyone else get that?

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