How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 7)
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I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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House, geez, I honestly don't know what the intention was in my crazy wording - talk about oxymoron to the umpth degree. I think what i meant was that i have never abused my suboxone tablets - even though I no longer get the tablets and have actually been using the film for the past 8-9 months. My main point was just wanting to try subutex over suboxone. Yes, i did indeed abuse full agonist opiate painkillers prior to starting on suboxone in 2010. From what i have heard of subutex, doctors really do not like or want to prescribe it & only pregnant women for the most part get this medication. I guess because it doesn't have the naloxone element it is somehow abusable.

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SUZEE: Search Suboxone.com and you can put your zip code in to find a Suboxone doctor in your area.

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I'm looking for a Doctor located in or around Cincinnati, Ohio to take my daughter and her husband to so that they can be prescribed subutex for help with their drug addictions. I need a Doctor that accepts medicaid. They have Paramount and CareSource medicaid.

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If you're abusing Percocet then you are not absorbing more than 70% of the drug. Plus, abusing Tylenol is no Bueno. Better off taking them orally.

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What was the point of your statement everyone knows that and not everyone can't just stop life and go to rehabilitation and yes Withdrawal sucks maybe u wasn't as hooked as u thought but some of use use major amounts and the sickness wins every time so the subs are a happy medium

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HOUSE: You do realize that the Naloxone being in Suboxone doesn't make much difference as far as being able to use, correct? It is the buprenorphine ITSELF that has the huge binding affinity for opioid receptors. The Naloxone is mainly in there to keep people from injecting bupe. Subutex will throw you into Precipitated Withdrawals just as quickly as Suboxone will. I know this from my own personal experience, along with two addiction specialists and my own research. People mistakenly think that you can still use with Subutex, but it is just not true. You have to be in a pretty good state of withdrawal in order to start up your Subutex again, just like with Suboxone. So when you say that Suboxone has the "opiate blocker" in there and Subutex does not.....well, that's not entirely true. Bupe ITSELF is a form of "opiate blocker".

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DANI: Whether you take Subutex or Suboxone, the result will be the same. Switching to Subutex from Suboxone isn't going to change anything. The only reason Naloxone is in the Suboxone is to keep people from injecting it. They both have a huge binding affinity for opioid receptors, and you can not "use" with Subutex any more than you can with Suboxone. They will BOTH throw you into Precipitated Withdrawals. Which is the third ring of HELL.

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What Dr do u go to I live n Ohio and and detoxing need same day apt.

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Hi BB, the only difference between the two is that one has an opiate "blocker"..naloxone it is called,that prohibits any opiate from binding to the mu receptors in your brain,which means that no matter how much you take,you will NOT feel High. ..the SUBUTEX does not haveany blocker, and both meds use buprenorphine as the rather weak opioid type main ingredient....hope this helps. ..HOUSE in the HOUSE. ..

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What's the difference in Suboxone and subutex? Is one better than the other? I have choic pain and on Suboxone but with all the issues I'm having its really not helping with pain any longer and I do feel it gives me a headache. I heard of methadone and they say it helps better with actually pain I never was addicted to pills but once they worn off I was hurting again and worst so I told the drs I didn't want anymore perks or L10s. I am.veru new at this and want best to help my pain till I figure out what's going on!! Thanks

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DANI....you say that you have NEVER abused any type of opioid, ever.. So how is it that you have had this medication for so long? Just curious.... Thanks HOUSE!!

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What if you are a person, like myself, who has never taken illicit drugs or abused an opiate tablet, and has been on suboxone for over 5 years and just do not feel the same benefit/efficacy from it any longer? I have wanted to try subutex for a few years now. Also, since being on Medicaid, I am no longer able to take the generic tablet, which I definitely preferred to the film which I now have to take. I asked my subox doc (who I had for 5 years) about switching to, or at least trying the subutex, and he lightheartedly told me No. I take my recovery pretty damn seriously, have regular therapy, and take a few other medications to treat my depression and anxiety diagnoses. I am not looking to throw away my almost 6 years of being full-agonist opioid free so I can get subutex to misuse it and experiment with things I've never done before and at almost 46 years old, getting too old to even consider such sickness. Why is it that I should not be given an opportunity to try subutex when I am not at all at the risk of doing inappropriate things with this medication and it may be just what I need to feel more comfortable in my sobriety as I did before?

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There are doctors that are specifically licensed to prescribe subutex and/or suboxone (same basic ingredient - buprenorphine - which eliminates withdrawal symptoms.

Any doctor can take a one day course to be cleared to prescribe the stuff. And it's gotten easier over the past couple of years to get prescriptions since initially a doctor could only prescribe to 10 patients at a time. Last I heard it was raised to 100 patients...it might be more now (even possible it's unlimited).

Just use Google and do a search for a doctor that prescribes subutex or suboxone or buprenorphine (whichever gets the best search results for you).

It shouldn't be hard - I'm surprised to read that people find it difficult. Maybe it's a state by state thing...really don't know. I was getting it in Florida and I found a psychiatrist that prescribed it. I recently moved to Nevada - just in time since my insurance didn't cover the drug (in Florida) and the shrink was upping his charge (also not covered by my insurance) from $75 a visit to $175. I got to Nevada and needed to find a doctor. Took me a few seconds using Google to find an internist (family practice doctor) that my insurance pays for with a $10 co-pay. The insurance also covers the prescriptions which runs me $45 a month. (forgot the mention - the insurance DID cover the Rx in Florida, just not the doctor's visits). Before I had insurance, the Subutex was something like $150 for a months supply (8mg a day).

Best of luck - the stuff is truly a miracle drug and won't suck up all your money. I was paying $55 a pill for 80mg Oxycontin and that left me broke - the "bupe" literally saved my life.

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AMANDA: That is probably your only shot. Maybe head to the ER with a "blinding migraine" and get that paperwork. You know what I'm saying. It may be the only way.

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Yeah I can most def get migraine documentation. I've also been deaf in my right ear,well 80% deaf and so it gives me vertigo which also in turn gives me migraines.

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AMANDA: Can you get documentation from your doctor that you are a migraine sufferer and that the Naloxone is making them worse? That is probably the only way you will still be able to get Subutex.

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Well damnit man lol...i hear of all these other states just handing subutex out to anyone but it's become so much more strict here in tennessee. I'm just looking for a doc that hep c is a legit reason to be prescribed subutex because as you said I am def having allergic reactions to that naloxone. I've had awful migrants growing up and anyone in my family could vouch that since a child I would get migrants to were the earth would be spinning and anything I ate or drink would come back up. I've had Kat scans but it's just a genetic thing that runs on my mother's side and trying to take naloxone isn't helping me at all in more than just one symptom. I know of individuals here in middle tenn that drive to the tip of Georgia and Kentucky just to get subutex and I also have a friend that is going to a doc I believe in east tenn near knox (where I'm originally from anyway) that says there is a doc that will prescribe tex to people with documents via doc that are hep c positive, but she won't freely give me the info to the doc because so many people have burned her that get jealous or upset that she can get them so she is very careful with her doc info as I guess I would be too. Just wish this wasn't such a headache trying to obtain (pun very intended). It's just driving me nutssss!

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You are not alone.. I have been a addict for almost 12 years.. Because when my son was born he broke my pelvic bone.. The doctor perscibed me oxy 30's 6 a day for almost 6 years. I was hooked the first week.. I didn't relise how bad it was and I did things to get that pill that I would never do today.. If you are not a addict you will not understand... I wish you the best of luck.. I was on Soboxene but found it was worse then what i was on for opiods..... So I am in the process of getting the vivital shot... good luck

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AMANDA: You are most likely having a bad reaction to the Naloxone in the Suboxone, which isn't in the Subutex. The whole time I was on Bupe, I had to take Subutex, as the Naloxone made my already chronic nausea and migraine problems much worse. Fortunately here in Colorado, they haven't made the changes between Subutex/Suboxone that has happened other places. I am back on tablet methadone anyway, which works better for my addiction.

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Hey where are u from? I have hep c and subs make me sicker than a dog and Tex don't make me sick. I'm in middle Tennessee and last year they passed that law about pregos and breast feeding woman can only be prescribed Tex.

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