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I am starting my suboxone treatment tomorrow after I'm into the ever dreaded WD's. My 1st prescription is for 8 mg. 1/2 a pill every hour until the symptoms have subsided. I have been taking 14-17 10 mg. hydrocodones a day for about 1 1/2 yrs. I'm very scared of how I am going to feel for the next few days. I am also dealing with a lot of anxiety. Does anyone know if I can take a 1/2 or whole xanax while taking Suboxone to help with anxiety? I'm reading conflicting reports on this. I've got a call into my dr., but have not heard back yet. I am very concerned about how I will be able to function for the next few days or weeks. Yesterday was my first dr. visit and prescription. I really want to kick this awful habit. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.

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1st Time, NO NO NO, DO NOT TAKE XANAX!!!!!!!! I wish you the Best with Suboxone. I and my brother started the end of october 2008. My brother relapsed twice, he was on Hydro 10mg/30daily/3yrs I was on 10-12daily/15yrs. Im not sure about his dosing but I started at 16mgdaily/2weeks...now 8 months later I am 2mg daily. I actually have started trying to take it everyother day. I want OFF...I hate the taste and just the mention/thought of the medicine I get nauseous. I too was fearful of the anxiety, it was difficult, for about 6weeks I did not feel stable enough to drive and I could not stand crowds or loud noises. became super depressed, I take Prestique 50mg daily and Seroquil 50mg nightly this has helped the anxiety and depression and helps me SLEEP!!! I suffer with Sarcoidosis and I am Always in PAIN....I take toridol which really helps..not as good as hydro but I can function. The Doc put me on an anticonvulsive to help wing me from Xanax .5mg for 15yrs. Find NEW activities you enjoy and Change old habits...drink plenty of water and go Caffiene FREE..Columbian Decaf from Walmart is Great. I do have a glass of tea daily followed by a Lots of WATER...God Bless, you will do well!!!

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Why don't you wait and see? Xanax may help with your anxiety, but it is also very highly addictive and why start if you don't have too. Take one day at a time and remember - what your brain tells you - is not necessarily what you or you body needs. Tough it out and it will pass. Find support from family or friends if you can.

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My husband as well has started going to a suboxone clinic. He was VERY, VERY, VERY bad on pain pills.It started out with a back injury that got him prescribed to percocet, he took them like he was supposed to.......to start with, then he found that the more he took the more productive he could be on his job and would last for hours while we were making love. Then he was so immuned to the percocets the doctor switched his meds to oxycodone, and of course already being an addict these pain pills were abused as well. He eventually became immuned to the oxycodone and decided to be referred to a pain clinic. Once at the pain clinic it was discovered his back problems had worsened significantly, so he was immediately put on OxyContin 40mg 3 pills a day, Soma 3 pills a day, Xanax 1.0mg 4 times daily. He was at first afraid of the OxyContin so there were some days he didn't even take the required dosage and they worked really well at controlling the excruciating pain in his lower back pain while taking the Somas as well, but as I have always heard if its too good to be true it probably is and he started abusing the OxyContin. He eventually worked his way all the way up to the 80mg ones and by this time the fear of the pills were gone so once again like a broken record more abuse with the pain meds also along with the abuse of the Somas and the Xanax. Then the day came he had not complied with some of the pain clinics rules and got kicked out. That's when the fun really started. As if our marriage was not tough enough while he had insurance and prescriptions for all of these pills now all that was gone so he turned to buying the pills off the street. That quickly became a problem financially even though we both worked good jobs and made decent money, we started to slowly watch all that we had worked for start going back due to nonpayment or by being stolen only for it to mysteriously be found by me at a pawnshop with his signature on the loan slip. At this time we had 2 children to think of and provide for as well not just worry about where daddy's next high was coming from. Finally I couldn't handle it anymore and we split up at least 6 times a month for about a year and a half He finally agreed to get help in early 2005. I signed him into an inpatient rehab that way he couldn't decide he had changed his mind and check himself out. When they did the drug test on him at the hospital and the results came back the doctor told us all that he had enough narcotics in his system to kill 10 people!!! Hoping this was his wake up call off in an ambulance to the rehab. He lasted there for 3 days before he raised so much hell I decided if he didn't care no more about his wife and kids than that then I would sign him out of the damn rehab and file for divorce. When my attorney and me were ready to have him served with divorce papers, guess what, I missed a perod and yep I was pregnant with our third child. We stayed seperated for another month or so then got back together. I knew how much pain he was in with his back so I agreed that he could go back to another pain clinic as long as he promised to take as prescribed which he did. He did very well at keeping his promise to me til he got kicked out of this pain clinic, so once again we were back to buying off the street again but this time we didnt have anything to lose, we lived with my family and had it made. Then all of a sudden one day in late March he decided he didnt want this type of life anymore and he wanted help, and there was something about it this time that I knew he was doing it for him and not to get everybody off his case. He had his first appointment in early April at the suboxone clinic, and he has been clean 110% for almost 12 weeks now.

His doctor has him on Xanax 1.0mg 3 times a day and he is fine with it. I don't know if the doc let him have it because he's been on them before or what, so I think my advice to you would be, if you have taken them before and recently then ask your doctor to put you on them, but if not seek doctors advice, read all the articles you can on the subject and surf the net for all the information you can find on it.

I'm sorry I had to write a life's history just to answer a simple question. I hope it helps answer your question and gives you some ease about taking them. May God Bless you and be with you the whole time you are going through your program, and I pray you don't, but if you do happen to relapse, don't feel like a failure, just pick yourself back up and try again.

I do know for a fact that it you are in a methodone clinic then it is a BIG no no to take benzos of any kind because it is a very possible lethal combination. I've just never known this to be true with suboxone.

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SUBOXONE 8/3 IT SAVE ME FOR SURE. I BEEN ON IT FOR TEN MONTHS. IT WORKS. I TOOK VICODIN FOR THIRTY YEARS.

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I AM NOW HYDRO AND SUBOXONE FREE. THE SUBOXONE HAS WORKED WELL. HOWEVER, I am on Tramodol 50mg to help with my pain. Non-Opiod Pain Killer. take it twice daily...prescribed for every 6hrs. I have learned to deal with the pain. Just Happy to no longer be controlled by the opiods.
R.I.P Michael Jackson. FYI His Life has been Loss due to his addiction to PAIN MEDs....Lesson to be learned!!!!! Peace and Blessings and Good Luck!!!!

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I know this response is rather late to your original posting. Suboxone/subutex are fantastic at getting you used to not craving that opiate relief other agonist opiates give. I hope it has gone well. The transition from any opiate to suboxone can take a few days but hang on in there. I've gone from losing everything to now working on a PhD and teaching criminology. In the UK subutex has been available as an alternative to methadone since 1995. I can't understand how a country like the US can be so far behind when it comes to treating opiate dependence--even in Iran where they have over 3 million heroin addicts methadone programms are being rolled out. Addiction is treated as an illness not a potentially criminal act. Good luck to you

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This thread caught my attention today because a few others and I have been simutainiously carrying on a similar discussion about withdrawing from Oxycontin on a different thread. If any of you are interested in reading my account of successfully withdrawing from long term use of Oxycontin and many other pain medications, just go to
Oxycontin discussions and read the last few pages of postings from myself and others. I will let them know where to find your postings related to detoxing issues. This thread you've started here will be extremely helpful in others quest to get off the various addictive and destructive drugs prescribed to us. I bet this site has a ton of similar discussions on detoxification issues which are located under many different drug names. This makes it extremely difficult to locate the wealth of information and tips on detoxification related issues that others have posted.
Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to try to consolidate the various threads on this site which address detoxification issues onto a single designated thread titled, Detox tips and issues. I'd be interested in hearing what others think about this idea. It sure would make it easier for those of us seeking help for this issue to have these important, useful and encouraging personal accounts posted within one clearly labeled thread designated for all detox. conversations and postings? Let me hear from some of you.

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Suboxone is wonderful when trying to detox from opiods. Please be careful though.... suboxone w/d is actually worse than the original w/d that you would face (at least for me). Try to take the lowest possible dose of suboxone that you can, and take it for the shortest amount of time that you can. When the time comes to quit, you must not only taper the dose, you must space it out as much as possible. I was on sub for 15 months, and even with a slow taper, the w/d was unbearable.... Worst thing I ever went through...I am 14 days into the w/d and still kickin......

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I do agree with the suboxene WD....I began spacing myself on my own about my 3months down the line...I started the last week in Oct. and Completely off the 4th week in June...I still fit a bit, but the good thing is I hated the taste of it and would gag trying to take it...so the biggest thing for me is I would begin to salivate and gag along with the other crazy WD symptoms....I just made up in my mind that It had to Go and I let it GO!!!! plus I have no job no insurance and the cost was killing me.....God Bless each of you, stay strong and hang in there.....Peace and Blessings

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yeah, i didn't like the taste much either, but i sure liked the way it made me feel!

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Tammy

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im on valium while taking suboxone as long its a low dose of the benzo its fine the reports you are reading are of people taking high doses if you use it right your fine

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advise regarding xanax and the like. TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR AND DO WHAT HE SAYS!!!!!Remember Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley!!!!! ALSO, come off caffiene go to 1/2 the caffiene, it makes anxiety worse. I died without my coffee...but i love community brand coffee with chicory, out of lousiana, I found on the website chicory and decaff coffee...it is delicious and it does the job for coffee lovers. peace and blessings to all!!!!

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I have been on suboxine for 4 weeks now, I take 16mg at the moment. I was addicted to Codeine that the Dr had prescribed for Carpel Tunnel Syndrome and was abusing them for 3 years. What is the ideal amount of suboxine you can be on, I am terrified about the W/Ds from this drug. Can anyone give me advise.

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i know all about the hydro and oxy i have been taking both for 6 years when i first took them i could take a half of a lortab10 and i felt good, lots of energy, well i started snorting and oh my god, i could clean my houses spotless, go to work and be on my game,well i tried oxy 10 well ten times better,ten times the energy! fast forward 6 years later i have a hole in my throat and my nose from snorting, i cant get out of the bed without at least 2 to keep me from being a bitch as soon as i get up! i feel HORRIBLE, i finally decided to quit and i have a app with a supoxine dr friday (so fingers crossed) and i will tell anybody STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM PILLS!! nothing good comes out of them. because when you do them,you can have 150 and always wounder where you can get more!

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Wellll.....It is not safe to take any benzoes while on any opoids. There is a huge risk for overdose leading to death. However, I have taken xanyx while on suboxone and have been fine. If you do end up taking the benzoes, be very careful and Do Not take a lot. Good luck to you, I know it's not easy!

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I was using 200+ mg of Oxycodone a day. Tapered a week on 25 mg percecet waited a day and took 2 mgs of Suboxone. next day one mg, 3rd day .5mg 4th day .25 and fifth day a crumb. Doctors prescribe WAY too much for WAY too long. Remember 13 days and you are addicted. I HAVEN'T FELT GREAT BUT I AM UP AND DOING THINGS.

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You can use xanax while using sub, not big doses if you are not used to it. But you should know xanax, alprazolam is the worst benzo if you get addicted to it, (not unlike opiates symptoms) try oxazepam which is a not so potent and not as addictive.

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Do not go on sobxen from pills just go though your little with draws becouse the with drawls from sobxen is so bad u just want to kill your self and they last for days on in and the pill with drawls only last 3 to 4 days take my word for it I have been in your shoes

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How long were you on suboxone? Do the Docs giving it out want you to get off it? I think it would be important to get off it within 3 months or 6 months. I mean, can't people get clean anymore?

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Need advice... I am dreading the wd that are going to come before I take the suboxen. I sometimes would take up to 15 10mg Norco daily due to nerve damage and multiple hand and wrist injuries . I'm tired of what pills have done to my life. They have ruined everything. I want to go on suboxen because I don't want to relapse and I want this to be seriously my last time ever touching the evil pills. Please help me understand how the experience is going to go if I wait the 20 hrs before I take the suboxen will the suboxen then take the wd symptoms away. Please help me understand better so I have a timeline. Otherwise my anxiety I feel like may be what sends me to my grave prior to wd even happening. Thank you.

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I definitely feel for you, I have been there! The suboxone will actually start working immediately so you just have to count downthe hours until your appt!!! ( you may already know this because I think you posted this a few days ago) . Do yourself a huge favor though and take less than the Dr prescribes! I've been on a very small dose for a few years ( much smaller than my Dr prescribes) and I feel normal and haven't relapsed or experienced any major problems. I do suffer awful withdrawals however, when I try to ween myself off my very small dose. That is troubling to me! As for taking xanax, you absolutely must stay away from them. There are interactions with them and suboxone that can be fatal!!! I think benzos are a huge no no and they will show up in your urine at your suboxone checkups. My doctor found them in mine one time and almost discontinued me from the program. It's not worth it! Good luck to you and God bless!

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Please do yourself a favor and do not take a 8 mg in full or a full half, I was on high mg for 6 years and I refused to take more than 2 mg-breaking 8 into 4's. All you need is a little to help you through the days and try to be off in 2 months, if you are interested in kicking the opiates control. Sadly the suboxone works great at withdrawals, but can turn into yet another pill hard to get off of. It will help you more than you understand, it is a blessing just do not get caught up once again on the thought of its harmless to stay on. They block your receptors, your brain will calm and work quick to get on out! Good Luck!

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