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My son had a terrible experience on wyvance. He has phyciatic systems to include halluciations. The doctor took him off the drup cold turkey and Ihe seems to be having withdrawal systems? Is that normal?
I have been on Wellbutrin 5 years, Kolopin 7, Vyvanse 1.5 years. Prior to Vyvanse, Adderall for 8. Today is 7 days off Vyvanse and 5 off Wellbutrin under medical supervision and taper. I was diagnosed hypothyroid 3 months ago. All the reasons I was prescribed Vyvanse and Wellbutrin were effects of hypothyroidism which now at 2 months on Armour Thyroid has eliminated feeling spacy and sad. So I'm now better everyday and shocked that a blood test would have saved me years of wondering why nothing got better. Because the cause was not adhd and depression, but Thyroid. Symptoms mimic Adhd, anxiety, depression. I'm grateful that a primary care doctor tested my blood. If it doesn't feel right, get bloodwork. The detox off kolopin shall take months but the reality is that I could have died without correct diagnosis. Please eliminate other causes before another day on Adhd and Depression Meds. I'm lucky I questioned my prescriptions and finally I feel alive.
I was planning on getting off Vyvanse and Wellbutrin eventually, but was forced to stop both suddenly. I was taking 300mg of Wellbutrin daily. I did manage to take half a dose for two or three days before stopping entirely. I was prescribed 70mg of Vyvanse, but had been taking only 35 mg a day for 2 months. This was partly due to side effects of a headache and trying to make the medication last longer since I no longer had any insurance. After I just refilled my prescription, only taking one and a half of the pills, they were stolen from my home.
It had only been a few days of no wellbutrin and now NO medication. The constant grogginess has been very difficult. Before I took vyvanse I could wake up in the morning using coffee, but it is almost ineffective. I do feel like I am getting more of my personality back though--when I feel awake enough or stimulated enough. I love to get up in the morning and read my bible, it is almost impossible to read a chapter without finding at least 10 other things to do at first or during.
Even though I have increased my caffiene intake, I still only drink it in the morning. Yet, I have been dealing with insomnia at times while feeling like I could fall asleep while driving if I stopped trying to stay awake.
Another side effect has been very achey joints. These issues only mirror part of the comments that I have read. It has been 15 days without either drug. Anyone else have any similar experiences?
I just wanted to say that for me this has been a very helpful drug, I have tryed everything out there and i either was too focused that i really wasnt in control of my mind or just unstable mood wise. For example on concerta, i felt high for 6 hours then crashed horriably. Vyvanse 60mg has been the most stable drug for me, i would say it has had to strongest affect on my apeaite compaired to any of them but also the most stablilizing effect on my mood and focus. It allows me to acomplish tasks but does not make me. Also its the most calming of any i tryed, it feels closer to an opaite then an ampethimene for me, how ever weird that sounds. I do not use it everday only roughly 4 days a week, on thoose days school/work and therapy sesaon are most acomplished. I do this because i am very strongly adverse to the idea of being dependt on a substance for succese and only want to use it as a tool to help me beter my abilty to achive with out it eventualy. Just my 2 cents, hope everyone finds somthing that works for them.
I already have a long story to tell, even in the short period of time I have been on the stuff.
I've been taking Vyvanse for almost 4 months now for ADHD-I (inattentive). My doctor started me off on 30mgs of the stuff. Like most people, It started out as a fairy tale. I could finally think clearly, and maintain focus for long periods of time. Dieting had never been easier, infact I've lost 30+ lbs so far. I felt level for the first time in
my life.
Unfortunately, this fairy tale does not last forever. After two months, my doctor moved me up from the 30mgs to 40mgs. I didn't notice much of a difference. Then I started to have tiny panic attacks during long bouts of inactivity. I could usually alleviate the problem with a good stretch and a little walk. Last week I ran out of my 40mg and went back to the 30mg as a back up. My God, I've never been more miserable in my life. Severe depression, agitation, anxiety, and malaise. Right now, I can barely focus on the computer screen.
Why can't I fix this problem and just refill my prescription? Because It's the same reason why I took it, The Job Corps. The Job Corps does not allow you to handle or dispense your own medication, nor go out and refill it without an outside party, such as your parents or loved ones, even if you are over the age of 18 (thank the US Gov't in it's all knowing wisdom on how to protect me from myself). I'm stuck on a campus with a bunch of noisy and irresponsible kids. Right now, I'm pretty much going through Hell with these withdrawl symptoms, that will recive no attention or care for the next few days.
So if you are on this drug, you should know what to expect. Do research. This is an Amphetamine. It is addictive. Abuse pontential is just as high as anything else. The only difference with Vyvanse is that It can only be ingested orally in pill form, not snorted, injected, or smoked (but, I have heard contrary). If your doctor says it's not addictive or not-as addictive, he's a lying quack or needs to seriously rephrase himself.
Be smart about it. Plan to handle withdrawl properly. If you are in a binding situation (like me), learn from my mistakes. make sure to have a better plan B than I did.
I've been taking vyvanse for well over a year now 60 mg a day. I can personaly tell you the only withdraw symptoms I have gotten was aching muscles and extreme fatigue. Also it can become very addicting once you take it for long enough. However the only way yo will experience these symptoms is if you stop taking the medication for an extended period of time. And if a person were to decide to stop taking it then they should have their doctor slowly decrease the dosage amount until you are able to stop taking it safely.
Although you may experience withdrawl symptoms from Vyvance and other similar drugs, this withdrawl period only lasts for up to 4 days max. (provided you are getting sleep/rest). After you wake on the 3rd or 4th day, your mind and body will be back to your normal state. After this, any desire to take the drug again is merely psychological.
Hello! Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine. Lisdexamfetamine breaks down to amphetamines in the body. It's just a legal version of it. Yes, it's very addictive. Yes, you may have adverse side effects. It is after all a psycho-active drug, Yes, you WILL become dependent on it. Yes, you WILL experience withdrawal if you stop taking it. Why won't doctors tell you this? Because that's not what the drug company told them to tell you.
Wake up people. Read the articles:
Lisdexamfetamine Details / from Drugs.com
Amphetamine Dependence
Methamphetamine Details
Desoxyn Details
BTW I take 70mg of Vyvanse daily. I've been on it for over 2 years. Has it helped me? Yup, at first. However over time, it becomes less and less effective. This is because tolerance is built up over time. Three choices: 1. Continue to increase dosage over time just to feel normal. 2. Maintain dosage over time -- it will always help you a little but will never be as effective as it was in the first few months. 3. Decrease dosage (quickly or slowly) over time to get yourself off of it, but then you are by yourself to deal with your ADHD ... which is not really a disease, just a psychological make-up which doesn't quite fit into today's society.
Hi, my 17yr old son was prescribed vyvanse a month ago for adhd and I am not sure what to do to help him. At first it help him a ton at school with consentration and the desire to raise his grades. Before that he had such high anxiety and depression he started to smoked pot to relieve these symptoms but once we found out it was much harder for him to use his self prescribed drug. He was put on zoloft (made him sick to the stomach) which helped a little but not enough and then after much discussion with a counselor and doctor was digonosised with adhd and put on vyvance. He is doing terrible. He also took more than prescribed the first week because he said that when it wore off he would get so tired that he could do the homework in the evening that hours earilier he had comitted to doing. Because of that he didn't take it over the weekend to save it for school. He has lost weight and is still very very depressed, wants to be alone all the time, he also has a temper (rage) and high anxiety that seems impossible for him to control, at the same time he is so tired all the time. I have no idea what to do for him. Any suggestions or comments. I know that we are dealing with several things here, not just the vyvance, but if anyone out there has been there done that what do you suggest would be best thing for him. This is his last week of school and i am just trying to get him through it without a meltdown but that seems to be what i have been doing all sememster with other deadlines.
He has only been on this for a month! Could some of his increased anger, depression and anxiety be linked to the vyvance? As a mom that loves her son and knows that he hates himself for the way he is right now I can only hope that someone out there knows what step I should take next. I should also mention that today was his last vyvance with 4 days left of finals ahead of him. I dread the next 4 days.
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I have been taking Vyvanse for three years after being diagnosed with ADHD. I started losing a lot of weight so I decided to start weaning myself off of it. I found that doing so left me Very tired. I'm 24 years old and had to negotiate with myself to get out of bed. A week ago I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. This condition was not present before the Vyvanse. I noticed in an earlier post that someone else also had this problem. I am doing some investigation to see if this is a negative outcome of using vyvanse since it is a newer drug.
I am 29 years of age. I have been having 'behavioral issues' since I was a child growing up in pakistan, and came to USA around when I was 12 (culture shock, different family (living with mother here, left father in Pakistan) and since then I've been here in the states. At 17 I was prescibed wellbutrin because my parents took me to a psychiatrist because I was cutting myself and I was depressed or whatever, I didn't feel depressed... I dunno. Anyway, I didn't take it for too long, only a few weeks. Then a few years later at age 23 I was prescribed another anti depressant and I took it for a few months and didn't really notice any difference. Now, 1 month ago, at age 29, I started having nightmares and flash backs. I've been having some dreams over the course of my life which reoccur every 8-12 years... and the dreams are about when I was 4 and raped/abused by my babysitter. Always had to battle with it in my mind, pain, shame, the fact that I never told anyone and I should have said something then... anyway, all my life I've never had good relations with anyone, or trusted anyone, always had maternal problems with my mother, hated her all my life... I don't know why... my dad filled my head with hatred toward her while growing up in Pakistan with him, and then at age 12 when I finally came to USA and saw my mother I started having problems with her. Anyway, lots of things have been adding up and past few years I felt myself losing my patience with everyone, I started avoiding people and just stayed in my house all the time. I lived in Oklahoma City for 4 years and New York City for 5 years by myself and did fairly alright, not too good though... always depressed. I can' have a normal relationship with anyone including women...
All these things were adding up and it came to a point where I couldn't do anything in life. I just couldn't get the thoughts of myself being raped at age 4, coupled with everything else and no matter how hard I tried I could not. On top that I lost my job in NYC and decided to start my own software development company. I did well for a year, and then I fell back into the depression and couldn't do anything but stare at my cieling for hours on end while still in bed in the morning. Nothing held my interest. I wanted to do nothing at all no matter how much I wanted to do it. I could never focus on anything, and I've had impulse control problems since I was a child.
Now that you have a little background, here is my current situation. I am 29 now, and a month ago in march 2010, I got fed up with my life and went to a psychiatrist and pretty much just told him EVERYTHING, and held nothing back, and I felt no shame and no shyness. I just laid it out. He talked to me for an hour, then he called my friends and family members. The whole session lasted about 2 hours and then he basically said that I've been misdiagnosed my entire life. I've not got depression, but ADHD, subtype 2, impulse control and ADD. He prescribed me Vyvanse a month ago.
I've never done any drugs in my life other than in college, and then only very rarely to experiment, like Acid, Coke, Meth, Weed, Opiates. Before college and after college, I've never done drugs. I've not done anything but smoke pot in the last 10 years. Just pot thats it. I told my doctor that too.
Anyway, the first day i took it, 30mg, I was tweaking like I've never tweaked before. I WAS HAPPY! I went outside and looked around the trees, the grass the sky, the nice breeze, the sunlight, and that was the happiest/best day of my life and for absolytey no reason at all... just woke up, took the med, and few hours later I was the hapiest man on this earth. I've never taken speed before , and I'm not used to it.
So the doctor told me to open the capsule and only eat half the powder for a week and then report to him. I took 15mg Vyvase for about 2 weeks and after that it started to make me feel kinda crashed out around late afternoon early evening.
I told him everything when I saw him after two weeks. I told him what time I took the med, when I woke up, what I ate, what I drank, how hydrated or full I was, what physical excersions I did (I KEPT A LOG OF EVERY DAY and even now I do).
Its been one month... I've got super focus... I'm not jittery... I'm much calmer.. the relaly really small small life things in everyday life that people consider irrtations or just nuisance, I USED TO GET ENRAGED ABOUT THAT! NOT ANYMORE! I just let s*** slide... not many things can break my calm now... I can program faster, think faster, code faster, find solutions faster, type faster, get along with people better.... and most of all..
I STARTED TO THINK BEFORE I SPOKE OR DID ANY PHYSICAL ACTION!
THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING! AMAZING! My impulse control seemed to have started to get under control slowly. The doctor said it will take a while before you really get used to the medicine and also with THERAPY and active behaviour modification and positive thoughts and etc. you'll do very well.
Also, he advised me to not keep it a secret. I talked to my two best friends that are girls, and I told them what happened to me... and I started to cry... and they told me that they went through something similar. It seems both my best friends were abused also as children and unlike me, not only by one man, but by many and hit and beaten too by their dads and abused... and it became easier to talk about it. I now talk to people and increase awareness about leaving your kids with baby sitters. What happened to me and f***ed up my life should nto happen to anyone. Children don't deserve this lifetime of shame and pain and anger and guilt.
Anyway, thats my story, and Vyvanse has been a miracle drug for me. I don't believe in God, as I think no one who claims that they know of a supernatural omnicient entitiry have provided any evidence for it. As such, I won't say thank god... I would say thank myself for taking the initiative to be totally open with my psychiatrist and tell him everything, EVERYTHING!
REMEMBER GUYS, DRUGS ALONE DO NOTHING FOR YOU. YOU NEED ACTIVE BEHAVIOUR MODIFICATION AS WELL AS THERAPY, UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE TO BE AROUND, AND PEOPLE WHO WON'T PUT YOU DOWN ON YOUR SMALL MISTAKES. IT TAKES MORE THAN DRUGS TO GET BETTER, AND I WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
PLEASE SHARE MY STORY WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
i dont know what to do. i cant function at work without vyvanse (50). im scared if i dont take it iwill loose my job. my manager already told me that they could replace me unless i gotmy act togther because i was so out of it so thats the reason i got on it. but im scared about my health. my heart rases, i black out, i cant eat ( i was 115 and now im 102 within a month) i cant sleep and also ive been drinking ALOT so i can come off the high. im engaged and my relationship is really getting bad because im not the same person. icant laugh or have fun. i dont even smile anymore.So what do i do?? have ajob or save myslef and my relationship? it sounds horrible buti just cant stop takeing it, no matter what happens. somebody help
christian- i feel like im going through the same thing you did. i feel like im dying sometimes and haveing a heart attck. i cant breat i cant think i black out. i g o to grab things and my hand stiffs up
I just started takeing vyavance about 3 months ago.I was takeing addrel for 10 years. i became very addicted. i got off of it 2 years ago but couldnt function at work. vyvance makes me very dizzy and disoriented. i feel like somthing is really wrong with me sometimes like in going to passout or something worse. does anybody else have these symptoms
Thanks for the posts everyone. My son, 16, was having increasing school problems, and the doc suggested coming off Focalin (no real negative effects) to Vyvanse. It seems to have been a catastrophe. Within about 3 weeks, he started becoming very dark, very irritated, everything seemed negative to him. He had no affection anymore. I think he may have a tendency towards some manic behavior or something of that nature, and Vyvanse brought out the worst in him. We decided to stop it after a month of use. He's still irritable and defiant, but I do see some of his hard edge starting to come off. I hope this doesn't take more than a couple of weeks. I'd rather he struggles some with schoolwork, than become semi-psychotic. Watch out with this stuff. The doctors don't warn you - but it's all on the warning label!!!
I dont know what the deal is with your son... i take around 40-80mg's usually daily and i stopped taking it 3 days ago and i got the complete opposite effect... i feel energetic and more motivated and more confident off of it so idk what the deal is
I myself have been on Vyvanse 40mg and have been off of it for 8 months and I still have a hard time functioning without it. However, the Army says I cannot take it. I found that yes when I was on it I felt like I accomplished so many more tasks. Now just like before I was on it I feel like a slug that cannot get off the couch. It has nothing to do with me being lazy. I just don't have the drive. I'm not fat, and I want to do the things I used to do, I just can't. I have since put on 20 pounds, I am just under my max for Army standards, but still considered normal weight.
My son is diagnosed with ADHD and has been on vyvanse 30 MG as well. He fare's better on it than he did with Adderall XR 30 MG. He tended to have more psychopathic outbursts when he was on Adderall, as I had stomach aches when I was on Adderall. for him (12YROLD) this has been the best one for him. Yes he still has these outbursts but before they were almost daily, now they are just when he doesn't get enough to eat. I know that has something to do with it. It's almost like DR. Jeckyll / MR. Hyde syndrome.
I took Vyvanse for about a month. Before that I was on adderall instant release and then adderall extended release. These drugs contain amphetamine, so the worst critic would likely say this is legal speed.
I've stopped taking the Vyvanse, and after four months of using these drugs, I can definitely say that yes, there are withdrawal effects. I sort of figured this would be the case, because I became addicted to the medication. I longed for that high feeling it gave me each day, but with each day the feeling lasted shorter and shorter. Eventually, the vyvanse, like the adderall, was useless. It lasted about about two hours each day, and the rest of the time I was prone to panic attacks and severe anxiety issues. My intake of Xanax went up substantially, so now I was addicted to Vyvanse and Xanax. I could not imagine functioning at all without these meds, although they now hardly did anything, I was stuck, because when I tried not to take them at all, the anxiety was unbearable. I felt like a complete zombie, and I had to take the pill just to ease the pain.
The most surprising part of all this, I think, is that the doctor did not address the probability that the drugs will cease working this fast, and the difficulty of withdrawing from the meds when this is the case. Whenever I tried to discuss my worries about the drug working a shorter time and eventually likely not working at all, my comments were disregarded, and I was told to seek psychological help to address my anxiety issues and self-destructive thinking. Well, it seems that my self-destructive thinking was right, and let me tell you, IT IS NO FUN GETTING OFF THESE MEDS.
I've been taking Vyvanse for over a year now. In the beginning, tasking or staying focused was fabulous. After a while, I felt I needed a higher dose. After taking 70mg for a while, I needed Red Bull to be able to study. Someone suggested I go to an endocrinologist who told me to get off of all meds for 6 weeks before I could get blood work done. Thankfully, my doctor helped me get off of Prozac and Vyvanse. I got very tired, no energy, and felt like a wet rag. But, this does go away. I finally discovered I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, which may explain depression, cognitive problems, weight gain, etc. Then, I realized I could not keep my train of thought and asked my doctor if I could go back on Vyvanse. After 3 days, I felt irritable, too hyper, and drugged (25 mg). I took myself off and am now going through the tired phase. My doctor thought I might try Strattera, as this is not the same type of drug as Vyvanse. Funny, but in college I was on diet pills (which were legally prescribed) and now know why I was able to do so well. Tell me, is there any doctor who can truly diagnose and prescribe? I'm so tired of pills and not feeling like myself. My only hope is that the endocrinologist will help me finally get to the bottom of all of this.
I just stop taking vyvance 2 days ago. I was taking 60mg a day. I have always had depression and insomnia and always take anti-depresants and Ambien. I started back school to get a BS and told my Dr. I was having a hard time focusing. He prescribed me Vyvanse. I have been taken it for about 6 to 7 months and started to notice a harder crashes during the day, bad headaches, and a major increase in blood pressure. I was suppose to pick up my prescribition but didnt get a chance. I decided to try to get off of them. 1st day wasn't bad. The 2nd day my mood was a litttle better but my hands started to tingle, get hot, and feel like they are swollen. Im hoping for this want last long. I can handle this as long as it doesn't get worse.
My girlfriend's 5 year old son is on vyvanse. Normally he is a very loving child, but when he comes down from it, he is EXTREMELY aggressive. He hits, kicks, yells, and now even bites his mom. She takes him to his Dad's as she works a part time job every night at a tax preparing service, and the only time she gets to see him is when he is coming off this med. He even has hit and kicked his grandmother. He tells his mom he does not love her...it is BAD!! After some time (around 5 pm) he calms down. Unfortunately during tax season, she does not get to enjoy her boy after the effects wear off. Any suggested alternatives to this drug?
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