Will Suboxone Show Up In A Dot Drug Test (Page 2)
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I am going to get my cdl class a licenses... Will suboxone I took two weeks ago show up in my screening? They send it to a lab

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Re: James (# 94) Expand Referenced Message

What happens with your dot 5 panel drug test??? Did subs come up for negative?

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Re: subtaker (# 104) Expand Referenced Message

100% for sure? DOT is still a 5 panel test? Not a 12 or 14? Get back asap please.

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Re: James (# 94) Expand Referenced Message

What happened man? Get back asap please
I have the exact same test coming up.

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Hey man. Have you ever gotten the test back? Let us know please. Got an upcoming job. Suboxone has saved me from a downfall. I don't want to endure cold turkey w/ds if I don't have to.

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They have an expanded panel test but I believe it should not show up please let us know

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I have been reading and reading and i keep getting two conflicting answers. I have been on suboxone for 3 years after 6 years of heroine addiction and it has done wonders for my life. I went from being homeless to being a manager making 80k a year. But new HR director came to the company and implemented “safe workplace program” and enrolled everyone into random drug testing. I get the forms to give to my guys and my number hasn’t came up yet but I know it’s coming. The forms say 5 panel DOT equivalent urineanalisis. I’m just very nervous. I just want to hear from people who have taken DOT test and the outcome. I don’t want to hear to just stop taking suboxone. I’m on 2MG a day and it helps me mentally control the urges to use and I can’t take a week off to get off them. It is what it is I’m just looking for answers so I can quit worrying.

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Re: captain jack (# 91) Expand Referenced Message

Did you ever go through with your test? And if so how did it turn out? I'm paranoid just responding to this chat so i really feel for you...same story I've heard a thousand times. Had a terrible thing happen to me... My doctor put me on pain meds... then recommended Suboxone for chronic pain. I could have gone on disability but i chose to work, i'd like to get my CDL but now I don't know. I didn't think much of it till they mentioned a hair follicle test. One story i read from a Dr. who treats with Suboxone and Methodone said his patient lost his CDL after working 8 years with a spotless record.. The doc went to bat for him saying he'd rather have him on the road than someone who took an Ambien to go to sleep. So I've heard both... it depends on the company.. and the doc that does the testing... God Bless... and if anyone else can give an update on the Suboxone testing for Truckers please do.

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100% not i would like to know if it shows up on a driving medical

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I am trying to find out if suboxone is tested for in a hair follicle regarding child custody. Does anyone know?

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I've read totally different answers to this question. I need the truth.
I am taking .25 milegrams of suboxon twice a day. A very small amount. I'm getting ready to take a DOT drug test. Both urine and hair follicle test. Will the suboxon show up

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I can tell you now for sure it does not show up in the DOT screens, nor does it show up in the hair follicle test. The DOT is a 5 panel test... the hair follicle is a 5 panel plus extended opiates. Suboxone does not fall under those categories. I also know for sure because I, within the past month, have passed them.

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If one takes suboxone, un prescribed, and they go in for a hair follicle pre employment druge test.
1) will this show up?, or is it looked for on a HF test?

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Lol wow you're not arrogant AT all. Lol, you"re response didnt pertain ro anything om topic at all either. I didnt say anythinf about WHY doctors prescribed him the meds. It doesn't matter WHY a person started taking it. That is a moot point. If a person is chemically dependant on opiates, regardless of if they began taking them as heroin use or if it was a prescription, the bottom line is: that person is Chemicslly dependant. Now maybe i misunderstood the person i was responding to because it IS entirely possible that he/she just up and decided to take a sub one day for no reason and maybe thats why hes worried about failing a DT. If that is the case; User, you have nothing to worry about after about a week of time since you took it last. Bupe has a significantly longer half-life than most other opioids (36hour HL). So it will be detectable in your system longer than a drug like H or Oxy.

Now if you did NOT just up and randomly decide to take bupe for any particular reason other than to feel what it does then....

Regardless of what the pervios fool tried to say....... even IF a dr is prescribing low level buperenorphine for pain, if you take an opioid long enough you may become Chemically Dependant. This is a fact that your doctor surely would have warned you about if he gave it to you for pain. Noe it is important to understand there is a difference betweem Drug Addicted and Chemically Dependant. Even if you take your opioids as directed, you may become Chemically Dependant. If anyone tries to argue that, ask them to present evidence. There is a plethera of information supporting what I just said.

Now the following is simply My Advisendue to what I experienced personally. I made the choice to leave the CDL field because it is RIPE with people ready to so any truck driver for any reason they can come up with. Perhapse they believe that who they are suing will be the trucking company and that big companies can take a hit like that. I can assure you they will blood test you if you're involved in a traffic accident where someone is injured and they think they can pin the blame on you. This is why I went back to being an automotive tech as my situatio required me to be on subs for many months. Ultimately its your choice. I hope this helps.

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Wrong... doctors now prescribe subs for pain relief instead of giving people standard opiates. The whole 'suboxone for addicts' has changed and is being used differently this day and age.

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What would make you think that being active and fit would have any bearing on drugs being in your hair follicles? While your follicles are alive, your hair is dead. When It comes to hair tests, hair is a chronological map which can be used to tell what drugs you have done and exactly how long it has been since the last time you did it. Shave your head/face/pubes and get a wax job of your entire body and then nothing can be seen about what you've done up to the point which you shaved. I would say that since they actually pluck the hair out of the skin, they are going to look at hair length even under the skin layer. I'll reroute back around to what I say every time I post here...... If you're taking bupe, it's because you have a chemical dependency issue. You need to give up this idea of a DOT career until you can successfully live without bupe for at least 6 months. People will tell you it might not show up on a 5 panel. What I said below is: if you're involved in a 5 car pile-up that was NOT your fault, there will still be lawyers who will try to sue you for the sake of a big payout. These lawyers don't care. If they can get money from anything they perceive as a mistake on your part they will try it. If there is an accident and they find a CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE NARCOTIC in your body or in any recent time in your body's history you may be in some s***.

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I have a question, i have been taking a quarter a day of subs for a few months
If i get a hair follicle test will it show up in a job drug test? I am very active, workout everyday.
A guy i know took a job drug test and it was a hair follicle, he is older and has been on them for years, it came back with the doctor asking him if he was on subs.

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What happened on your test? I am going in the morning and in just curious whether or not I need to look for a new job?

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I just thought of another Factor which hasn't been brought up in this conversation at all. Has anybody seen any of those TV commercials with lawyers offering to sue truck drivers who've been involved in an accident? They offer to represent anybody who's been in an accident where a semi truck was involved. They offered to get the "victim" the most money for their suffering. Now I know that I have seen accidents on the freeway where it's been like 10 car 15 car bumper to bumper pile-ups. Where Maybe a passenger car was the first vehicle in the accident and a semi truck several cars back slid into the situation. Now it may not have even been the fault of the truck driver, however these lawyers Target only the truck driver. Their defense (or offensive strategy) is to say that the truck driver was not paying enough attention and that he could have avoided the situation and because he didn't he is at fault for injuring his client. These lawyers are scumbags and scoundrels, they will do and say anything to get a judge to pass a judgement on to the truck driver. Then the truck, driver in order to clear his name, will be asked to take a drug test. It probably won't be a urine test. It will probably be a blood test. And they will send it for a Mass spectrometer analysis which will reveal Every chemical in your system. Now are you willing to see what's going to happen when they find out that you had buprenorphine in your system at that time?

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Yes they will just keep it to ur self about it don't talk to ppl at the school about or anyone that knowable goin

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Surely you didn't direct your comment at me and my previous comment because that would indicate to me that you barely read but rather skimmed what I wrote for things which interested you. I am a Bupe patient. I have been on and off this stuff more than just once. I have also experience Methadone treatment. I've experienced Cold Turkey Isolation treatments where someone ignorant of the true nature of Opioid addiction throws you into a room or cell and tells you to "man up." When I use the word Ignorant I am using it in it's literal context which does not mean 'stupid' or anything like it. Any time a person assumes/believes that they know all there is to know on any given topic when there does exist further information one could use to become more knowledgeable on a given topic. Actually my feelings are unless a person makes a point to check for updated information on the given topic before arguing a point or giving a lecture, one is remaining ignorant.

I certainly didn't say or even imply that a person should 'sit on their hands and do nothing.' Nothing I said even hinted to that, which is why I'm not 100% sure you were talking to me.

What I did say was while One are on subs, you should focus primarily on your recovery. This is not as easy as it may sound (which it shouldn't sound easy at all) because One may find that groups like Narcotics Anonymous may actually be a bit judgmental towards One. This is what I noticed in my experiences, many people in NA may not outwardly and directly say this but if One tells the group that they are getting help trough the use of Suboxone; individuals or possibly even the group as a whole may react with something like 'Hey that's kind of cheating. The people in this room have made a personal choice to get off and stay off drugs and this person is coming here ON drugs which are meant to prevent withdrawal.' Someone may say "I had to go through withdrawal, what make you special that you get to keep using just because a doctor is giving it to you?' Now I'm not saying that is going to happen to anyone reading this, that is just what I experienced. One group asked me to leave. I would advise that anyone using buprenorphine be very selective about who they tell, keeping in mind that this era people are Google geniuses. As any bupe user knows a quick Google search will bring results like "is an effective medication for the treatment of opiate addiction; however, when abused it can be addictive and harmful." WOW! Can One imagine how many ways a person could take that? For this reason I tell almost no one that I am taking it. People will not look at it as "oh he's getting help that's great," even if they say something like that.

My point on my previous post was: A person using bupe to get away from pain pills, etc, still has a long way to go. They are headed in the right direction certainly. My advice is to not select a career which will require one to be a perfect drug-free angel. A DOT driving job is not a good idea at all because one slip-up could really cost you. While a 5 panel drug test will NOT show buprenorphine, nor will a 10 panel or a 15 panel, if an accident happens they may send your urine to the lab for a Mass Spectrometry test which will identify anything in your blood. A drug test is different, they use specific reagents which when they come into contact with the metabolite of the targeted drug will cause a color change on a strip. These type of drug tests which say Opioid on that section of the test will NOT test you positive for buprenorphine. They do however make test cups which have THC, COC, MDMA, METHAMPHETAMINE and so on and so on.... but it also has BUPE and each one has a strip next to it. If two lines appear -- PASS, but if one line appears - FAIL. If the second line shows up just barely they may send off the urine for the Mass Spec.

So what if one goes though CDL training classes. I had been done this. I signed up for classes at West GA Tech and was attending school. I bought myself a Whizzinator which is a fake wiener with a pissbag and synthetic piss that fits like underwear. Yeah I used this thing to pass my first DOT 5 Panel but the more and more I thought about it, the more I learned from class, the more i understood that I was going to be randomly tested upwards of 3 times per month on average. Depending on who hires me. So what I ended up doing was effectively wasting all the money that I spent on the classes. So my advise to anyone is: pick a job that isn't going to test you like that.

MOST jobs only test one time when they hire One and only ever again if One gets injured.

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