What Exactly Does Suboxone Do? Is It Addicitive? (Page 9)
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i have a friend who desperately wants to get off of methadone and pain pills. will suboxone work? is it addicitive too? if someone can please help me that would be great! also is it very expensive, that's what i've heard.

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I have some knowledge since I've been on Methadone and Sub. I felt high om Meth and I feel high on sub. But it's a high I do not like. I do not like nodding. Yet when I go yo bed I can not sleep. I've been on sub about 21/2 weeks. I take 1 film 2x a day. It's too much but when I've cut back I've been uncomfortable. But I have only had one in the last 14 hours and I'm going to try and stretch the time out farther for the next one. I can not stand being sleepy and foggy.

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Pat... Why dont u shut up and just give ur exp. And quit trying to sue everyone. U sound like a real asswipe

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tapper- i went all the way to 4 8mg for 6 yrs. Lots of wasted money and feel its a scam in some ways that a clinic won't help you get clean. They want their 250 per month. Taper this way i'm don to 1/2 pill. I went like this 4 -8mg pils day one then 3.75 day two 4 day 3 3.75 day 5 3.75 day 6 and 1 week on 3.75 no ill feeling. Then 3.75 day one and 3.50 day two and 3.75 day 3 3.5 day 4 and on and on. Pretty much did this without any issues. Now i'm trying to get to .25 of the pill. Not easy but you can do it.

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Thank you! I was so scared. I thought the label thing was true. I was given Oxy's and morphine for a very bad knee injury/surgery and thought I could just stop taking everything... Lord was I wrong. I ended up in the hospital and sick as I have ever been. Long story short, I was put on Tramadol which I was told was not as bad. Lies! I have been now trying to get off and it has been so hard. My doc wants to try Suboxone to see if that will help. I dont want to be high. I just want to be normal. I am upset because I ended up following my docs orders and screwing myself. I have the desire to get off but the pain and sickness that comes with it... well that is something I never understood. My ex died due to the struggle he had with heroin. I never understood what was so hard. Now I do and I am thankful that you cleared up this info for me. I was getting ready to say never mind. I have four kids and I dont want to be labeled... it is not fair to them. So for anyone reading this... it is not easy... so please dont judge people. These drugs are truely hell on earth and anyone can be in my situation. Good luck to you all!

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ARE U STILL CLEAN

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hey people. i have a uestion for anyone that can answer, and with all due respect please only reply if you genuinally have knowledge on the subject please i am not interetsed in your uncles cousins best friend knew a guy that took suboxone ok please than you ok here my Q: i know that suboxone is infact a narcotic, but compared to lets say methadone how similar are they. as far as potency,how long it lasts , etc.., and why is suboxone found to be to acceptable to help ppl with opiod pain med addiction since it itself IS after all a opiod pain med? anyone please my very best friend of 26 yrs has just started suboxone films as of 2 dayts ago i wanna be a good support forb her so the more i known about this the better.she has been withdrawling off oxy and just started the subs yesterday so she feels like s*** according to her i havnt heard frpom her yet so id appreciate anyone help - thank you and god bless

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Dear Doomed, I have just read several posts from you and I have to say(bluntly) one minute your miserable,withdrawling bla bla the next your taking 20 7.5mg vicodins,the next you wanna trade subs for oxy,the next you have a jar filled with 30 oxys. Dude,whats your deal? listen i was an addict for many yrs, then god punished me and struck me with SEVERE chronic fibrmyalgia,nerve damage,bulging discs,arthritus etc.., you name it, so NOW i have no choice but to depend on narcotic pain meds.although i have taken oxys a few x and let me tell you NOT good. the, oxys are worse than heroin i say stay far away from any kind of oxy ata ll costs my best friend is currently detoxing from a very severe oxy addiction for 3yrs everyday and she snorted them.i finally gave her an ultimatum and also i think the fact that she s a mothe rof 2 beaytiful kids she just started suboxone films. anyway back to doomed and his very bi-polar posts dude it crazy obvious that your jacked up when your writing these posts i asss=ume your bored,lonely and hey let face it pain med euphoria makes ppl wanna smoke cigs,and write letters right,right? but i just wanted u to know i can tell just by reading your posts. good luck and flush them darn oxys no good id rather you snorted a bag o dope for heavens sake PEACE OUT

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I have been trying to get on subs for 2 years now and have been an opiate addict for the past 8 years. I'm only 25 and unfortuetly live in Vermont where there is no suboxone/methadone programs you can get in to without attending rehab for a two week minimum...... I have an apartment and a son.. I simply cannot leave for two weeks making my son unattended and defiantly would not be able to afford my rent.... I feel so stuck! It's almost hopeless for me just thinking about it makes me depressed.... I wanna be clean for my son yet at the same time if I quit cold turkey I really think i would die with out suboxone/methadone. Anyone with imformation or suggestions ide greatly appreciate an email! Thanks guys!

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Hello

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I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOU!!! I have bin taking 300mgs of oxycodone or more a day that feeling is surly long gone for me but withdral when i run out.I have stoped once befor and started back up and now i have stoped again with the sub and celixa anti depress i take the celixa 5 days befor i stop the oxy and start the sub it good you can quit and just forget it or start again but that feeling well be back but not for to long so its better just to stop my hand has 7 fractures from fighting when i was younger and need to take them but afther so long i feel i am not alive any more and now that i have stoped and started sub and cel i feel good and getting better by the day!!! Good luck to you brother GOD BLESS YOU!!!

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I will trade you my sub for your oxy LOL!!! I was taking the same as you were gina that was a long time ago I whent up to 300 to 360 mgs a day had no effect on me no more needed them just to feel normal 10 to 13 pills a day truly SUCKS!!! And paying for the rest of the 120 i would get a mo 100 dollars or more a day! and smoking my cigs and drinking my diet coke every day was good at 1st feeling good but at the end never would of done it or would of done it diffrent.I cant really use my right hand with out the pills but i don't care i want my life back.So what worked for me is celixa 20 mg and sub.Made it possible for me to quit the vicious cycle i was in. Still take sub and celixa but i feel normal and soon well get of the sub i am still taking it because im acking like a little baby but i know i can quit it now because i have done it befor the withdral is nothing like coming off of 10 30's a day.Man one day i think i took 22 well unless some one stoled some from me that day but i dont think so it was in my pockit the whole day but that was the count. from 120 to118 but any way for you guys that really want your life back and really want to quit try this one week befor you stop the meds and get on sub get celixa (anti depressant) take it for a week befor starting sub and then clean up alittle and start sub well that worked for me well i felt alot better as i was coming off the oxy's.You may think your not depressed but afther you do it then you see how F***** up your brain is unbalanced your brain stop making endorphins because the pill would give it to the body so when you stop you have non and feel like doing nothing so that were the anti D works.Hope that helps some one out there good luck to all...I am not a docther but i just told you what worked for mee i just figered it out.Up to you if you like to try it!!! Oh and i am gald to say i have a jar of 30's and have not and dont plan on taking them any time soon=) WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!!!

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Doomed~ First, you aren't doomed! I wanna change your user name so bad! lol The way these posts are laid out makes it difficult for me to tell if you have started the suboxones or if you are out of everything....You did say you were miserable, so I'm going to assume you are out of everything. I was there last week myself. I have weaned myself off massive quantities of oxy and methadone and I did it with no help. You DO what you HAVE to. The first couple of weeks after filling my Rx's I am just so happy knowing I'm not going to be in awful pain at least for a little while and I take too much in order to have enough to last the full month. I KNOW what's going to happen and I do it anyway. So, I take just enough to keep me from being completely miserable for the next 2 weeks. This time was worse because I had to go 7 weeks vs 4. Luckily, I have a friend that "helped" me through it. I would MUCH rather take suboxone than ANY quantity of oxy! It works so much better for my chronic pain and just quite simply makes me feel good. If you've ever taken a sub, you know what I mean. It isn't a narcotic "high" - you just feel good, happy, energetic....and I am going to talk to my pain doc AGAIN about switching from all that oxy to two 8mg subs per day. With the subs, I don't even need any steroids. Prednisone is also a life saver when it comes to pain and feeling decent. It does the same thing as the subs for me. I would like to speak more freely w/you doomed. If you also would like to talk, pls email me directly at:

Feel better!!
~Gina

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Thank you! I guess I am just looking for that "feel good" feeling that I get from vics and percocet without actually taking them..are the subs similar. I also have chronic pain issues so I am hoping that they help. I have been dumped by my rheumatologist..so it has been 5 days since I have taken anything...I am miserable.

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Dear Doomed~ I suppose I should read all the other replies before writing my own, but I'm just too lazy! I am currently taking 120mg of Roxicodone + Oxycodone per day for long term pain issues. I have tried suboxone when I run out of the oxy too soon and frankly, I PREFER the suboxone. It handles the pain beautifully, gives me energy, changes my mood from a dark and angry place to singing Barry Mannilow (sp) songs. I have asked my pain doc twice to take me off the oxy and give me subs! He refuses. Says he "doesn't do that". For you to begin taking the subs, you must first bear through the withdrawals just a little to try to get as much of the other pain meds out of your system for the subs to work. This applies only if your are taking LARGE doses of the original pain meds. I weaned myself from the 120mg I mentioned earlier until I took only one quarter of ONE oxycodone. I am not lying to you when I say there are NO withdrawal feelings from the first sub you take!!! Nothing!! And within 5 minutes, you will feel better than you have for a long time! The pain is at an all time low of 2-3 from up to 10. There was rarely a time when I told my doc was less than a 8-9. I'll be asking again for the subs on Jan 16th!! Wishing you my best! Good luck!! I would be happy to answer any other questions you have if I can!!!

~Gina

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I will be starting on Suboxone tomorrow. Currenly I am taking 20 7.5 mg vicodins per day. The addict in me wants to know if suboxone replaces the feeling you get with opiates, Does it help with the mental addiction? My biggest fear is that I will never stop craving opiates, not so much the physical problems that I am having right now with withdraw. I am a recovering alcholic and kicked that 7 years ago..now this is even tougher. I used to be an RN, lost my licence, and just want to STOP sabatoging my life.

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DERRICK:

DUDE, FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU NEED TO LET YOURSELF OFF OF THE HOOK! You have a real physiological, metabolism, with a very high tolerance level, for any medication. This is a very well known "condition", you can do the research anytime.

Do not let other people judge you, or make you feel bad about yourself, when you go to the Pharmacy and see those people. They are not you and they are not nearly as educated as you are.

I understand your need, or desire to no longer be "dependent" (not addicted) to prescription mediation. However, do not do this at the expense of depression, pain and an overall poor quality of life. In the USA, the pendulum has swung WAY TOO FAR and people like yourself, who do need these great medications, should not feel guilty, bad, or embarrassed.

Suboxone is a pain medication, used in many places and now in the USA (known as Butrans). Butrans does not have the Naloxone, or whatever the Agonist is. It will definitely get you off of the opiates and stop the crappy (pardon the pun) side-effects. Your transition will be a piece of cake; DO NOT RUSH IT! It is much better to be on three/two/one 8MG of Suboxone per day, for a year, as you taper-off, than bouncing on and off for ten years.

The good news is, you are not looking for the "euphoria", just trying to stop the side effects. Buprinophrine will accomplish this, along with pain control. Again, the less you stress-out, or think about this and just allow your body to heal, the better your life can be. Always remember, you know your body better than anybody. Don't become a victim of our tragic medical community, who have little to zero pharmacological training.

Go at your own pace and I PROMISE, you will be fine!

Good luck and screw those people who do not walk in your shoes.

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Hi Carrie,
Thank you for your honesty and willingness to help others. I am a mother who is terrified for her son. My son is almost 30 years old and I just found out that he has been using heroin, cocaine, fetanyl patches (100mgs),and other opiate drugs for 9 years. I am so afraid he is going to overdose and die. His drug use started when he was a young teen using marijuana. Now that we have confronted him and he has admitted he has a problem, he is willing to go the suboxone route to kick the habit. I am not convinced that this is the way to go. I want him to go to a clinic to detox then go into a residential treatment program. He is not willing to do that. His girlfriend is also a user but he won't admit it and neither will she. She lies about everything she does and does not want her parents to know what I know. Anyway, I am dealing with a very scary situation knowing how addicted my son is and feeling so helpless. Addicts have no idea what is does to their families. This is killing me, his father, grandmother, brother, aunt, cousin, and everyone else who loves him. Your comments and help would be appreciated.

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speaking of being on methadone im from ontario im 28 yrsold and i have been on thr methadone maintenance program here fr 2 yrs and now im coming to ,i wanna get off and when i startd i was ok with it and now iam on a high dose that ive been on for quit some time and like a said i wanna get off and i hear about suboxone...would this benifit me??and how??please help!!!or advise!!

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Yes, he suboxone will definitely work to get off methadone. Both my friend and I used it for that reason. And yes, I would also say that it's also addictive. However, I know a few people who just stay on a low dose, weaning themselves slowly off of it. Good luck with your friend!!

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I would love to get more info on the doctor you are using. I live in Columbia, SC and finding a Suboxone doctor is extremely difficult.

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