Percocet/oxycodone M523 10/325 (Page 2) (Top voted first)

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Hello all,

First off I'm new to posting here and I must admit this is probably a topic that is quite frequent and I have done days searching but can't seem to really find any info on my specific situation. I apologize in advance for the long post but I will introduce myself and situation.

I've been on oxycodone 10/325 for a little over a year now from a botched foot surgery and diabetic neuropathy in this same foot. It helps tremendously and seems to be the only relief I can get is from taking these. Whether its first thing in the morning to be able to stand up and get moving or whether it's to let me settle down and drift off to sleep which is something fairly hard to do. I also was recently diagnosed with PTSD from my job and I am currently out of work for this. It is not fun. The oxycodone also seems to just ease my mind as well as my pain and its honestly the only thing I've taken that helps with both.

I am under the care of a pain management doctor which I've been seeing since August 2015. My script is 90 for 30 days (3 a day). I try my best to stick to this as it is the dosage I'm required to abide by.. But at times I find myself taking 1-2 more a day than the normal 3 a day I'm supposed to take. Thus, resulting in my script "running out" early. So I turn to other means and each time it's usually something different. Nothing other than oxy but just different milligrams (sometimes 5s) and most of the time it's different manufacturers (sometimes it's pink only oxy no acetaminophen, sometimes yellow Vs and sometimes white IPs).

This last time I was given white ones with m523 on one side and 10/325 on the other. I became suspicious right away. After further examining them they also look rather "beat up" almost as if they were in someone's pocket for 2-3 days or drug across the ground. All the writing on them is lined up properly on each one and well centered. They seem very light weight. Almost like a hollow capsule would feel. Very chalky looking although there is a slight glaze on them in the light but nothing like the glaze that mine from the pharmacy have on them. And also you can very easily "chip" the pill with your fingernail and easily rub off the writing with your fingernail as well. And they dissolve into a chalky paste very quickly almost instantly as soon as they hit your tongue.

Which leads me to the next point.. Yes, I did take one. I noticed nothing different than normal for the first 20-30 minutes which is usually when the rush hits me. It felt like oxy. It was very short lived. All feeling was gone well within the hour and I was left extremely thirsty with an odd dry taste in my mouth and a dull but worsening pressure headache in the back of my head. Felt kind of odd. Not as I usually feel anyway. Kind of dizzy and couldn't really focus or bring myself to do anything. Was very sleepy actually and I felt as if I may throw up.

Anyways, this was my experience in a nutshell. I know a press for this particular pill can be purchased on on the internet for 150 bucks. I'm really on the edge about these. I feel like it could go either way I guess but I'm still suspicious. Like I said, I definitely got the "oxy Rush" that I'm so used to.. But is this something that can also be achieved with someone cutting these pills with fentanyl or xanxax or something else?? Im not taking anymore. I know the above aforementioned can easily kill and that's not something I'm going to play around with. Well I guess I covered everything that I wanted to cover.. And I do have pictures of these if you can even post them here and if I can figure out how.

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Hello, i feel ya im 50 now when i was 48 was the worst time in my life, see i have crohns disease and i have had 6 foot of intestine removed it was all like a dream it was horrible, been taking oxys percoset for 2 years the pharmacy likes to switch back and forth between the m523 and the ip204 to me the ip works auicker but both do the same thing. In your case and its happen to me i would fall short on my script and need to find some im not rich i cant work now. I found the best way of course of getting what you need is straight from the pharmacy. If when your out before your next script find a trustworthy sorce to many shisters out thier trying to make a buck and dont care if you live or die, i wish you peace and everyone who reads this thank god thier is pain relief sometimes hard to get but ill get it, hope everyones health improves i hate depending on a pill because when its gone or unavailable im hit. So to everyone who depends on these and other pain meds to enjoy life more, i say....PEACE.

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They seem to be legit. My friend gets those from Walmart w the same markings. They are generic 10 mg Percocets

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Wow...you sound very scorned or in withdrawal. He answered you the best he could and you took everything so personal. You weren't berated, but sure reacted like it.

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Telll people factual information. Like pharmacies are allowed to sell you generic pills with as little as 66 percent of the advertised amount. Meaning that a 10 mg pill might only be a 7 mg pill. The Federal Food and Drug Administration states that as long as a pill is not more than 33 percent off, it passes for generic. I guess you are taking a prescription, fill it name brand if your worried about the amount of medicine or color, texture and taste. I'm saying factual information. By the time someone realized they should of stuck with what their medical doctor is telling them they might become a victim. There is no way to tell if pills bought on the street are real. I hear people say they're throwing meds away? Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a drug panel instead of risking your life?

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It's obvious you let that person get to you. Stop that! He or she as just St one person spouting off their personal thought. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT in tolarence and I have been on Percosett for over 10 yrs. The one you identified is real stuff. I was first prescribed 30 mg/7 times daily, I was Wonder Woman fully hooked. Not knowing a darn thing about them pills. Another Dr. Cold turkey me and I was feigning I did have honest pain after being trampled by a horse, screws in my neck, plate in the front of neck, lamanectomy twice of spine, scars on fac, knee Surgery-legs tore up. I turned to ibuprofen for pain and started eliminating dark runny poop. Thought it as the alcohol for my pain causing diarrhea. Next I think I knew I was being ambulances to save my life. The ibuprofen-ate holes in my stomach and I was bleeding out through the holes. I had last St half my blood almond St coma tossed. Be very careful of NSAIDs. Back to Percosettes, I am on them now after a dry spell of 4 years and so much pain. Alcohol only made my body and life worse. Please don't go on the same path as me, it was hell. I now take the 10/325's and suppose to take 2 a day .....ouch! I am taking 4 to 5 but I do run out early and I call in my clean up period. I am protected of myself and do not ask for anything more. I am grateful for what I do get and I have a perfectly healthy body and liver.......imagine that. Being a heavy equipment operator and commercial fisherman and crabber, I have kept in great health and good eating habits that saved my life. I am fortunate for what I put myself through. Seriously never again. I love climbing those Mt. Clearing land or sailing those hi seas and eating lots of fish, brain food. P.s. Still love horses and living. Dawn

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Its sounds like they were real, but got into moisture leading to the rapid dissolving rate. When the pill is chewed, broken, crushed, or otherwise dealt with in a manner that would allow quicker absorbtion, the onset of the medication comes fast as well. This also causes earlier peak, more intense yet short lived plateau, and the effects of the medication cease much faster than if swallowed whole. This explains why you felt the drug, but not for very long and had greater side effects. Remember its roulette when taking medication against the recommended dose and directions. With many narcotics, 1 mg can be the difference between high and die. Please be careful no matter the tolerance, overdoses can happen to everyone.

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Re: Koatom00723 (# 13) Expand Referenced Message


I just left my pharmacy and picked up my monthly script. I have had Watson, RP, some others. The yellow AKA Bananas or School Bus I can't find in my area. Instead of shopping around with Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid, Costco, some Super Markets with pharmacies, Target, Wal-Mart and the small mom and pop shops, I just go to my local pharmacy and take whatever they fill. Yes, each type (Brand) has a different effect, time of lasting, etc, however, today I was given these. They are oval and white. 10/325 on one side and M523 on the other. My label clearly reads the manufacturer is listed as AUROLIFE. I took one just before starting this post and personally I already feel relief. For how long, time will tell. Yes I take this 90 for 30 days so if I overdo it that's on me, insurance and my doctor will only go month to month. My doctor values his license so no shopping and my insurance will only let me fill 3-5 days early. How I take them is on me, I am a grown ass man and if my habit of 7 years has taught me anything it's to treasure what you have, don't sell them, don't give to a friend for recreational use, not even one. Hopefully, you can get the month out of it. When I crave and know the situation I put myself into I just sleep more. Less time awake is less time to take and overindulge. Not to be a hypocrite, I don't think I have ever made my script last a month.

Personally, I have had 6 back surgeries, 1 neck surgery, and 1 leg surgery. With my condition, I will be getting cut open every 3-4 years as my body deteriorates. I don't judge but I sure as f*** get judged and until somebody lives a day in my shoes I don't want to hear crap from anybody. Vicodin does not work for me. Dilaudid I is something I occasionally take but my doctor will only write one or the other. I am honest with them and they play fair. Dilaudid is just not my thing. I have and never will use Fentanyl, so for me it's Percocet. I also take Soma 350MG (it's classified as a muscle relaxer) since I have RLS but it states for pain. This helps (in my head) me get longer days with my Percocets. The purpose of this post is to #1. Let whoever know the manufacturer of the M523 on my label, again it's AUROLIFE as it reads, they may be part of another company, don't know or care and #2. Walgreens, CVS and Rite Aid all looked (not any longer since I switched to a local pharmacy) at me like here he comes again. With 32 lbs of metal in my body, don't look at me, ask a million questions, call my doctor to verify, ask for two forms of ID all with a legal prescription. I don't take kindly to being looked at like I have two heads. Now we have an opioid epidemic which has been around forever but now it's addressed. This opens the gate to many other channels and drugs.

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Re: Jerel (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

THE FIRST BOTTLE OF M523 FROM THE MEDICAID ASSIGNED PHARMACY ARE BELOW POTENCY SPECIFICATION..30%BELOW THE + OR - 10 % STANDARD OF POTENCY VARIATION...PERHAPS GENERIC SLOP...SOME UNDERBOARD DEAL FOR EXTRA PROFITS PERHAPS...DISGUSTING GREED!!! I'M PRESENTLY WAITING FOR THE SECOND MONTHS SUPPLY...A POSSIBILITY MY PAIN LEVEL HAS INCREASED...I THINK ALL OF THIS IS AT PLAY.

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Has anyone thought to contact the FDA? Their website says they take counterfeits very seriously. I have considered contacting them myself. My med just stopped working and I was having withdrawal.

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10/325 M325 are absolutely not counterfeit for anyone wondering. Why you wouldn't just look up the imprint instead of posting this garbage is beyond me. Now people Google this and the second result is you alleging that these pills aren't real.

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A few comments:

1) There is a difference between fake medications & variation in the effectiveness of legitimate medications made by different manufacturers.

Medications obtained from legitimate pharmacies (cvs, walgreens, etc.) are not "fake" pills-- they are legitimate medications that simply may not be as effective as others, whether due to the unique physiology/biochemistry of the individual taking them or variation in the chemical composition of the medications. All generics are not the same, and all batches of pills made by a particular manufacturer are not always going to be the same, either. This does not make them "fake."

Actual fake pills are not ineffective medications or brands legitimately manufactured and purchased at a pharmacy. Actual fake pills are those not made by a licensed manufacturer but made by individuals on the street with a pill press from ingredients that are entirely unregulated and most likely don't have any of the actual medication they pretend to represent, but instead whatever cheap concoction of substances (apap, baking soda, powdered sugar, fentanyl) they can squeeze into the press and fraudulently pass off as generic percocet, lortab, vicodin, etc.

Just wanted to clear that up as a few comments here seem to misuse the term, referring to legitimate but (in their opinion) ineffective pills as "fake".

2) While there may be certain "tells" or signs that may suggest a pill is fake-- chalky, easily dissolved, glossy coating, hardness, taste-- there is no universal set of superficial indicators that can determine a pill to be fake. Oblong watsons, for example, are generally hard to bite and slow to dissolve; round mylan are very chalky, easy to bite and quick to dissolve. Neither are "fake," they are just different. Real m523's are chalky and quick dissolving.

The only surefire way to know what u have is a chemical analysis, however if u have experience with the products offered by multiple different manufacturers u can compare your past experience *with that specific brand and dosage* to what you have in hand. If u know watsons are usually hard and slow to dissolve, for example, it's just cause for suspicion if suddenly u come across some that are soft, chalky and quick to dissolve.

Again, this doesn't mean that every pill that is soft, chalky and quick to dissolve is fake, it simply means that u need to be wary of variations not between brands, but within the brands u are familiar with.

And of course, if u are obtaining pills from anywhere other than a licensed pharmacy or medical professional, there is no way to be sure of what u have (short of a chemical analysis) and u are taking a massive risk with your health and your life.

Stay informed and be careful.

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One last point, in response to the addict-baiting and brow-beating...

When has prohibition ever worked? For anything?

10, 15, 20 years ago doctors would prescribe opioid medications without a second thought. They advertised oxycontin on tv like they do cymbalta or celexa today. There was no talk of any "opioid epidemic" until recently, literally within the last 5 years if not less. I'd say around ~2015/16 was the first year the phrase "opioid epidemic" entered the pop culture lexicon.

There was certainly no talk of an "opioid epidemic" at the height of the pill mill days in the early 2000s and street drugs were an uncommon thing.

It wasn't until big government dea/fda declared there to be an epidemic and started putting the clamps on doctors and making it harder for all the opioid dependants they created to obtain medication did people in genuine need of pain relief turn to the streets for pills and drugs to fight off the withdrawals. This took opioids out of the hands of doctors and pain patients out of the eyes of trained medical supervision resulting in the epidemic of overdoses we see today.

This is just another situation where the government stepped in between doctors and their patients, stigmatizing genuine sufferers of chronic pain as "junkies" and denying them legal, supervised access to help, leaving them desperate and leading many to seek relief on the streets, "relief" that has led to many deaths, imprisonments and countless destroyed lives and families.

Prohibition simply doesnt work. Bureaucratic, systematic government interference between doctor and patient doesnt work, it only scares doctors into pulling back leaving their patients hanging out to dry. And guilt trips and "junkie"/addict stigmatization definitely don't work as they not only turn patients away from seeking professional medical help but exacerbate the psychological issues and insecurities that may have led to the addiction in the first place.

Think about these things before saddling up on your high horse and brow-beating people for medical issues they cant control on their own.

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Re: Koatom00723 (# 7) Expand Referenced Message

I totally understand where you are coming from Koatom. I too have CRPS, but mine is what they have dubbed as centralized. It is my whole body. I did not walk for 3 years. They had me on 43 different medications. I have also found that oxicodone is my best relief. You are soooooo right in the fact that these doctors do not take the proper amount of time with their patients and due to that, a lot of us suffer. We do end up going and buying meds off the street just to get along. Now we face this ever growing problem of so many people abusing meds and causing real chronic pain sufferers to have to go elsewhere to get relief due to cut prescriptions and limited amounts we can legally be prescribed. I hope someday they figure it out.

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Thanks for the reply. It's definitely a 1 on the ones I have.. Doing a search online it alleges Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals is the manufacturer of this particular pill. I'm just also confused about seeing the dosage on the pill itself (i.e.. 10/325) as that is something I've never seen before. Oh well, doesn't matter at this point anyway because I've discarded of them. Whether they were real or not.. Guess that was the right thing to do. Thanks

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Are you a narcotics taker? For you to jump on this post and judge and lecture must mean your against narcotics by the way you ranted on!?

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I heard that they are making those pills overseas n bringing them into our country and selling them for $2, then the people will sell them for $10 as tho they're real. My friend took 22 and had to go to the hospital. It's just a shame. I have 4 major physical problems, one which i might die from one day. I see a pain doctor just to function. I am blessed they give me what i need but i understand the stand point of the doctors, this is where the majority of opiate addicts began on perks. With that be blessed and change doctors and believe in the process.

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I have them also. Been taking percocet and never gotten sick. These are making me so nauseated. Am I stuck with them or ellie the pharmacies replace them????

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On a percocet m523 on one side and10/325 dose the numbers have to go the same direction

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Koatom00723 the pills you are speaking of are a generic percoset known as endocet. They are made by a different company than the one you receive your meds from. I have taken both kinds and really can't tell any difference.Except the endocets are alot cheaper. I contacted the walmart in my town to see about getting these instead but was told they have a certain pharmaceutical company they pretty much have to go with. reason is Walmart gets a kick back. Now before someone starts going off on me this is just what I have heard so please keep negative comments to yourselves because I am not employed neither at Walmart or at a pharmaceutical business. One thing tho my last script I got, the pills seem to have the coating on them like the oxycontin extended release wasn't aware they started doing that to immediate release percs also



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Bo berry 16

I'm sorry but you are mistaken these are NOT ENDOCET . Nor are they coated with a substance like the old OxyContin .Its evident you are not a pharmaceutical rep.If you read the entire thread his question was actually answered In fact by the original poster in a later follow up . It's essential to read the entire thread before posting semi accurate information that is not beneficial

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