Methadone And Morphine Together
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MY HUSBAND HAS BLADDER CANCER AND WAS PRESCRIBED 20 MG OF METHADONE EVERY MORNING. HE WAS ALSO GIVEN MORPHIN SULFATE 60 MGS TWICE A DAY. HOW SHOULD THESE MEDICINES BE TAKEN?

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Re: licensetospill (# 5)

You just have to take it before you take your methadone, and it will strengthen the methadone, similar to the way 200mg of Morphine or Dolcontin work. However, this has been my experience. It's important to remember that people are different, and what works for one person may not work for another. Analysing patients can be time-consuming and challenging due to the diversity in people. Sometimes, doctors may get fed up and start prescribing medications without thorough diagnosis. If they can clearly see you are dealing with addiction, they might just refuse treatment due to limited time. The prevalence of drugs on the streets can be largely attributed to doctors and big pharmaceutical companies. It's the government's fault that things are the way they are!

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Re: yellowtail (# 4)

Exactly my point as well. It's just that methadone is 100 times stronger, so how are you going to feel something that isn't even half as strong as methadone? Logic! I am from Norway, so I apologize for any spelling mistakes. "Jeg prater norsk" or "jeg snakker norsk" is more correct to say in Norwegian. However, we have a lot of Americans here who speak English. Doctors, and the whole American pharmaceutical industry, or 'Big Pharma,' are just after money. They may sometimes manipulate doctors without them even knowing it. But that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day, and everything in between. Good, glad you get it!

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Re: Greg (# 3)

I've been familiar with methadone for about 15 years now. Yes, I was an addict, but I can tell you from experience that methadone is 100 times more potent than most other medications in the same group. Methadone is one of the most potent, so whether the dose is high or not, other substances might feel weak or nearly ineffective in comparison. They are doing their job, but methadone is simply stronger, hence you might not feel their effects. Methadone doesn't block anything. Trust me, I've experimented with it. Don't always believe what doctors say because in the United States, opioids are classed as Schedule II drugs, but here in Norway, and in the rest of the EU, they're rated schedule one because of their high addictive potential. There's an impression among some doctors who seem more interested in making money. Fortunately for me, I don't pay anything for my medications which are at the moment methadone, Lyrica, and Stesolid (Norwegian Diazepam). I've been on these medicines for 15 years and have started to notice their side effects more prominently after 10 years. Methadone will adversely impact your lifespan; it can cut around ten years from your life because it harms you from the inside. I wish I could get off methadone, but it's incredibly painful to do so, and it doesn't help that these medications are provided for free. I've seen how methadone withdrawal can lead to severe health issues, such as causing people's hearts to stop due to their long-term dependency on it. Basically, methadone might help you cope, but it slowly causes harm. Synthetic opioids are the most harmful in this regard. Dolcontin, for example, is a long-acting opioid (12 hour release) and shouldn't be confused with Oxycontin as it almost has the same dramatic effect like H, due to the rapid turbo effect on pain - I know this from personal experience.

In contrast, long-lasting morphine seems safer and is sourced from natural substances, not synthetic. Always ask your doctor for advice on these drugs. They can seriously mess up your psychological health, alter your brain structure, and you typically need more and more. It is concerning that methadone is still prescribed to cancer patients because it hastens their decline. In Norway, we are required to have heart health check-ups every three months due to potential damage from methadone. In my view, methadone should never have been used. However, don't just take my word for it. Check with people from Norway, Denmark, and Sweden. We've even started using Sevredol (24-hour morphine drug) in Norway, but it might be a half-synthetic opioid; I'm not entirely sure. I strongly advise you to avoid methadone because it harms anyone who takes it. Especially cancer patients, it's similar to Fentanyl, just slightly less potent. Do your research and I assure you that you'll find exactly what I've been talking about here. Perhaps check out sites from England and surrounding countries. It's disheartening to see how America treats its own people. Having to pay for essential medications is unfathomable for me. After all, these are drugs that you need to survive and if you can't afford them, what then? It's a multi-million dollar industry. Why can't America offer free healthcare to everyone? Sure, some services should be paid for, but not when it comes to life-saving medications, especially if you're on a program that provides them for free. I've written quite a bit here, but I hope it helps you in some way. Perhaps you're already aware, but it's important to consider the pros and cons before taking any medication.

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Re: martin (# 10)

You need to get off the fentanyl! ASAP. Even under a drs care!

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Methadone prevents other pain medications from working properly. That doctor is crazy.

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Re: cynthia (# 8)

What do you mean by "feel it?" If you've been prescribed morphine with methadone then that is for pain. Your concern is better spent at understanding the equivelncy of morphine per mg is to methadone is per mg in the abilities of both to prevent pain. If you want to know how much to take to feel it, then you are using for reacreation and not how it is prescribed.

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Adubb (# 22) what language r u speaking because u make no sense

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Re: Bobutz (# 144)

If not longer, then you won't be the same person you were before you got on methadone.

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Re: John (# 1)

Wrong... methadone doesn't block morphine...that's subutex or naltrexone..the body when ingesting methadone converts it to diamorphine... Basically, that's what he's been prescribed...I do think it's a bit weird tho, when methadone is usually a replacement for opiate addiction... But then again methadone tablets called physeptone are the same drug but not prescribed for opiate addiction, are for pain... If anything he should have been prescribed that. Either way they all work the same. But it will be easier to stop when it comes to it...a small amount of 2 drugs is easier to come off than a big dose of one... Hope this helps.

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Re: licensetospill (# 5)

The OP is not taking it recreationally! Herein lies the problem of why those of us who are in severe pain, and need our pain meds, cannot get them now because the insurance cos. are using the "opioid crisis" as an excuse to save money. The OP is taking the meds for CANCER, not to feel high and therefore, it is NOT a waste. Thanks to comments like yours and people like that, it is very difficult, if not impossible to get insurance to cover our meds. THANKS!

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Re: yellowtail (# 4)

Methadone is nowhere near as strong as morphine as I used to take morphine and now I have been clean for 4 years but still trying to get off methadone. It's the most evil drug of them all. I've been on methadone for 17 years and even when you're off it takes 29 days to get out of your body.

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Re: Nuggs (# 152)

I always thought that methadone would block opiates. As far as feeling high it will block the euphoria, but to kill the pain it might if it doesn't kill you for doing both. I've seen methadone addicts waste a lot of money taking opiates on top of their methadone.

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I'm on 90ml of methadone. Is it safe to use morphine patches while on methadone? I am in a lot of pain after an accident and was wondering if the patches would help?

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Hi, my gf is tapering off methadone for opiode addiction and I'm concerned is using morphine or other drugs again. She has been suffering from nausea, restless leg, trouble staying asleep and sweating...she was in detox and has been pissing clean for awhile now is able to carry 6 days of methadone only doing drug panels every 6 weeks. Yesterday came back with pin point eyes, slurred speech, poor coordination and elated and confused and nodding before dosing her methadone. I found green pills that I think said n 15 on them. Please someone tell me if they think she is using other opioids again or if this is a sign of methadone tapering? She is insisting she is not using and I'm scared. She is on 38 mg methadone, tapering 2 mg per week.

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How much Did she take see I only took ten miligrams of morphine and then two or three hours later took 20 miligrams of methodone

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Right on! It isn't a blocker.Just adheres to the opioid receptors requiring more opiates to feel the effect!

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It takes 80 at first then it builds up over time it stores in your bones body fat and bone marrow

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I couldn't imagine what u had to go through. I've been on this thread for awhile and i had a back injury from work for 17 years now but the doc i went to was a nice doc that you could tell him anything you were taking and he'd prescribe it. I was taking up to 300 mgs of oxycodone and in the last 13 years, 2 days was all i could go without the full blown withdrawals. I was prescribed 60 mgs of methadone when i got tired of it but only took 20 mgs at first and it worked wonders. I got up to 30 mgs and stayed at it but one day i tried to get off of that cold turkey even though i had 100 pills reserved. I almost had a heart attack when constipation tried to come out. I went to a pain clinic because i dont think the doc wanted me dying on him even though i never abused methadone. I finally got down to 5 mgs. It's not hard from 20mgs, but i've helped addicts in my family get off drugs with as little as 60 mgs methadone over 4 days, so i don't know why docs prescribe so much from my years of personal experience. The only thing was for 1 to 2 months I couldn't sleep great, but was never sick.

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When I was in the hospital for a severe stomach bleed and pain from that, but couldn't take my methadone 150mg daily dose (due to bleeding), the doctor TOLD me the conversion rate is 500mg of morphine spread out over 24 hours, given every two hours, FOR 150mg of methadone. THAT IS THE CONVERSION rate.

But HE, being a country bumpkin, small town doctor that he was, trying desperately to avoid a legal suit and because doctors are terrified to OVER MEDICATE a patient on narcotics due to respiratory depressions "not breathing" (which is NOT a problem or remote possibility for high level methadone patients) HE only gave me 10 mg every two hours to start, so it was only 120mg (over 24 hours) of morphine at first.. I WENT INTO SEVERE WITHDRAWALS. and was in soooo much pain i was screaming. He doubled it to 20mg of morphine every two hours and the withdrawals let up a fraction but i was still in withdrawals, nose running, legs cramping.... and they had to give me a high dose of benzos TO KNOCK ME OUT COLD, because I was screaming in pain for hours. (which they shouldn't even be doing with pain meds, ESPECIALLY METHADONE but THAT was what the on call Dr. decided). As soon as the benzos wore off the normal ICU doctor had my 150mg dose waiting to be taken, in two doses to prevent too much damage to my stomach, but they didn't even try after that first night of HELL with morphine.

Had they actually given me what the medical journal he read said he should....which would have roughly been 40mg (41.6mg to be exact) of morphine every two hours INSTEAD of one daily dose of 150mg of methadone, I think i would have been out of pain for the most part, or at least back to NORMAL as far as NO withdrawal symptoms. You do the math for your dose, lol. But that's what I was specifically told by a ICU physician AFTER he went and looked it up.

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It was 2 months for me.suks but wasnt sik.was at 5mgs a day from 40mgs for 4 years

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