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Just Want To Take Suboxone For A Few Days To Detox From Heroin Will It Work (Page 8)
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hey guys, i have been taking dilaudid for about 5 months 4,8mg a day then switched to heroin for 1 month 2 bags a day,now my friend gave me 4,8mg suboxones and told me it would help me get off h for good, i waited 24 hours took half a subox and i must say it works for wd's but when i run out witch i estimate will be in 2,3 days will i just suffer again;like where i left off or will the h be out of my system and the wd's light enough to withstand, please help, im not a newbee to drug abuse had bad h habits in the past and know the nature of the beast, just want this stuff out of my life so i can go back to work and live again, i need the truth or as close as i can get, can i beat it like this or am i wasting my time,maybe i can get one or two more subs from my freind
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jp215 Says:
Hey, you said you were in philly, I'm tring to get clean off H, it would just be nice to have someone local who knows what i'm going through to talk to.
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Matthew z Says:
Look, I'm trying to do a very low dose rapid taper to get over very mild but debilitating withdrawals from moderate Vicodin, methadone, codeine, and tramadol abuse. Sounds stupid for someone whose worst symptoms are sneezing, watery eyes, headache and lethargy. I could have taken 5 days off from work and been through the worst. However, I am a full blown addict. Suboxone is best used as a tool to keep you clear headed enough to join a support group, find a sponsor, and walk you through the 12 steps of recovery. I promise you if you just take that step to go to a meeting, and talk to people with similar problems you will feel more relief than you would by simply "maintaining" your dose for years. I know countless people who were on high doses of oxys, methadone, heroin and suboxone. And suboxone I'm talking 24 mg daily for 4-12 months, slowly weening, while seeing a therapist and finding either an AA or NA sponsor (you'll find alcoholics in NA, addicts in AA. It's the same disease, the same solution.) these people do NOT got thru the prolonged withdrawal you guys describe. What drugs like suboxone are supposed to do are stabalize you so you can work on your recovery. It's cool being able to talk on forums like this, but getting out of the house, surrounding yourself with people who have been thru what your going thru and talking to them is where recovery starts. We addicts need a support group, we need to go out in public and admit we have a problem. Sitting around the house thinking about withdrawal or reading about withdrawal will only increase your already insane amount of fear. When I was 27 I was arrested, coming off of a 50mg methadone/8mg Xanax habit. I had been on a 5 month binge. The first day was terrible. I'd be crying, smashing my walls, breaking stuff and out of no where laughing hysterically. I was a mess and I wanted to blow my head off. I went to a local AA meeting and it was NOT what I thought. People of all ages, cute girls, people laughing and having fun. I was actually mad. "Why are these f***ing addicts laughing and having fun?" Cuz they share experiance strength and hope, without judging you. They are mostly recovered people. They keep attending people like us. That's why they're there. I made some lifelong friends that first day. We went out to eat afterwards. I felt better after that. The 6 months of horrid withdrawal did not happen as my therapist promised me it would. Please, realize there are people who are just like you, who suffer the exact same way you do, who are looking for a solution, and a friend, and hope. Just like you. Chances are there's a meeting within a mile of your house. I would never deny that withdrawal is real, especially to those of you who are have been on high suboxone doses for years. But you are literally cheating yourself by not at least giving recovery (12 steps) a try. I promise it will become one of the most vital tools in not only your sobriety but in all of life's problems. I relapsed two years ago and stayed away from all the wonderful people who helped my kick my alcoholism. I was too ashamed to look them in the eyes and tell them I f***ed up. But I finally caved, broke down crying and poured out my heart to these people. Not only did they make me feel important and cared for, but three of my old buddies admitted to not being sober as well, and now were all in this fight together. It's like I have teammates in the battle against this disease. You all deserve the same. Don't think your alone. Don't think your problems are unique. And you don't have to be sober to join AA/NA. Just gotta have the desire to quit. That means if you f*** up you can be honest and people will help you. For some of you it may well be the first time you've ever felt accepted in your lives. I know that was true for me. My point is there is a solution that works for people everyday. Don't try to fight this disease on your own. Us addicts treat ourselves like utter s***. Be good to yourselves. You deserve help, friends, and acceptance. And most of all sobriety and happiness. All of that can be yours if your just willing, open minded, and honest. Not saying your withdrawal is all in your head, trust me I had DTs and seizures from drinking. I'm just saying there's one proven way to combat addiction: find people with similar problems and talk to them. Once we start working at our recovery, we straighten out spiritually. And when that has happened, we straighten out physically and mentally. And don't get me wrong forums like this are sobriety tools in themselves. Just please do yourself a favor and check out a 12 step meeting if you've never tried one. Don't be afraid. Chances are you won't be the only "newcomer" in the room. There's so much love and understanding at these meetings. All of you deserve that love, acceptance, and chance at a new life. Good luck and god bless!
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Cyndi Says:
I am right where you were two months ago. I'm on day 2 no opiates with the smallest dose of subox. I have stopped before for a month or so but this time I am so tired of being sick and what I have done to my life. I read your entire post and it is making me feel better already. ( I was starting too feel a little blah)
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Thepiney Says:
I would need more than a half the first day.... so take as much as you need to feel better i would say up to 2 the first day then lower ever day you go...
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casper Says:
Ok you said you started w/ a half, take a half for the 1st 4 days then 1/4 for next 2-3 days. in this will mos. def. work bro. the point is, is you don't need soboxone forever the reality is you can kick opiates w/ 4-5 8mg tabs. I've used heroin for 10yrs.+ & i can still kick on 4 8mg tabs. Start big & ween down when using your subs.
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Jerry Says:
Try to wait until you need to take it not when u want to
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timmiedee Says:
DC, I never reply to posts but you have hit it on the head; obvious you are speaking from your soul. The hardest thing really is to let go and never look back and to truly be DONE.
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VjS Says:
Hi, I have been on Suboxone for 5 years.I took a lot of pills for a lot of years, you have to wait at least 1 in a half 2 days if you can do that before you start taking suboxone or you will get sick and it won't work. I would start with 2 in a half .one in morning and than do halfs if you have 8mg I ended up taking subutex its alot cheaper and works the same .You should take it for at least 3 weeks tappering down by half.Of course I am not a Dr. I really hope you get through this, it was tough but with this drug you can have a normal life.
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Jay Says:
Well Matt I read through your whole story and I really want to be a 1 in 25 as well! I'm about to start my life over! I'm 41 and been on either oxycodne-contin for about 8 yrs and the past 8 mths the dreadful h! I'm so ready to write back to this page on my 1 in 25 success story! I'v lost my family some close friends n about to loose my buisness! I'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for my 21 yr old girlfriend to get out of work so we can try and come up with money to go to the city and get some more h!!! When I shud be at my tattoo shop making money hand over fist but I'm to sick to work! Iv been on the net looking for help in Wi. And there just isn't any for opiates? Or if u do find some your going to go broke getting any help! So I too am going to resort to hitting the streets in search of some boxers. Iv only used them a few times before with success if it wasn't for the voice telling me " just party on the weekend" pfsst! To that! That was 3 yrs ago! So I have one chance left I have a sister that is not going to let me die on her watch! Or loose my beautiful 2 yr old son! She lit a fire under my ass and is helping me get through this mess iv gotten myself in to. but I'm so glad I have her to help me out! I didn't ask for this, it started with a simple shoulder surgery and a Dr. That just handed me pills like candy! Next thing you know its. 8 yrs later n I'm sitting in a parking lott telling u my life story! Well Matt I will be in touch with you on this web page and I will let you kno if the boxer in me came out victorious or if the voice in the back of my head k.o. my ass! Wish me luck! Well Siss here I come, I will see you in the A.M.! I'm ready go a dozen with the Devil!!!
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Harleygurl Says:
Are you still trying? Use sub when you feel WD symptoms and you'll be fine. If you use sooner, you'll get precipitated WD. Some can use it 6 hrs after last H, some 12 hrs. You need the methadone to be gone out of your system too.Take sub for 4 days (starting w/the least amount possible for your 1st dose .5 mg?) You can always take more if need be after about half hr if you don't feel better. You will be able to work on subs. Make sure you decrease your amount of sobo or just stick w/the .5 for four days and stop everything. Even skipping the 4th day in a row and take your last sub dose your 5th day. Don't take sub any longer than that or you'll have way worse time quitting sub. Some report WD's up to 6 months of zero use (a month+ of pysical WD's). Best of luck, I know this is late but I hope all is well!
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adrian Says:
i was clean for 10 yrs from 1988 to 1998 my husband started using H again instead of me leaving I joined him. doing 100 to $200 a day. in 2006 moved to a place I didn't
know where to get H. I started doing Methadone recently I found out I couldn't get it any more. I reduced my dose to 20mg a day from 60mg I started feeling bad so in order to get rid of the meth I went back to H its been a wk since I had meth been doing $50 to $70 a day today I only did 2 $10 bags already feel very bad, I have some suboxone when and how much do I need to take not to be sick? Will I be able to go to work I do 13hr shifts will I be sick or will I be able to handle it? Please help I know once I get past the wd I will be able to stay clean once again. I am in need of info please help. How much sub should I start with and how long do I have to wait after my last hit of H before I take sub so I wont get sick
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Thepiney Says:
hey SISSY/??? the trick is take oxycodone for your last high and not H.... when the oxy wears off then start the suboxone for some reason it will work a lot better!!
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sicka tired Says:
Well, for starters, nowhere does ir say that NA made up the saying about trading one drug for another. Some drug addict somewhere probably said it and it makes a lot of sense since I was also on Methadone for a peroid of time and it was the worst experience of my life. I was definately not clean!!! I was just using methadone everyday!
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sissy Says:
im doing H, about 4 bags of really good a day. ive been trying suboxone and it's not relieving the cravings. it helps about 50% with the WD's, but the dr says i should be feeling great. but im still sweating and so slugggish. i took 3 8mg subs today and still sick. im considering just tapering with dilaudid i have from a script. any advice on that? ive never taken dilaudid but if i can take one in morning and one in evening so i can still work, taper to half that, then get 3 days where can take off work, do you think that's enough time to be ok to go back to work? also, maybe just give the subs more time and use them for 3 days when i can take 3 days off. i can take off for 3 days in 2 weeks, that's really all the time i have. is that enough time ya think?
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jacob Says:
I am down to 2mg suboxen and after today no more anything .. I fill so much better. It can be done.. just remember to stay positive and Xanax help with anxiety .. with a low dosage .. trust me it fills good to be normal again.. good luck to everyone it can be done.. I am a licensed pharmacy technician and suboxen is a miracle drug.. trust me it works.. ill never go back to painkillers
. Family is most important remember just have strong will power good luck to all...
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dlmich Says:
now that you feel great, you got past the 3 days of the worst. SO WEAN WEAN WEAN down or you'll get hooked as bad as any opiate, including meth
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Finally me again Says:
Im going thru the exact thing as you now, i started on sub 3 days ago after taking 10-20 norcos/percs a day stemming from an old back injury and have tried to stop cold turkey and ween off them. The WD were so bad i would never last more than 2 days. I finally told my doctor I have to get off of these and just deal with the back pain on my own. I got a script for 2 8mg/2mg subs a day and was scared as hell when i ran out of my pills. On top of that I moved into a new home and had a s*** load of stuff to do for the move and was afraid of going into WD and being useless. The subs have literally SAVED my life, I feel like a new person now and have not had a single craving. It is amazing! Good luck to you and to anyone else reading this give them a try , they REALLY work !!!
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DAVID LEE Says:
SO DAMN PROUD OF YOU...JUST PREPARE FOR DIFFERENT W/D'S. YOU GET KNOTS IN YOUR STOMACH AND YOU GET DEPRESSED BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO THE THINGS YOU USE TO "WHEN YOU COME OFF THE SUBOXONE' JUST REMEMBER THOUGH, IT "WILL" GET BETTER TOUGH GUY....MAN ARE YOU TOUGH
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jacob Says:
I have been on suboxen for 3 days.. 8mg... I fill normal again.. I've been taking 6 to 15 10mg norcos or perks for 4 years.. I know hope to be completely off suboxen in the next few days... I am so thankful for suboxen it is really the best drug for addiction ever.. I hope everybody can be off painkillers someday they ruined my life
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