Getting Off Opiates On To Suboxoxne (Top voted first)

I have been on suboxone..8 years...and got put on oxys 2 15 mg every four hours..due to back pain..well i was up soon as oxys wore off in withdrawal..oxys I use to love em.I am 37 and have done it all methadone..cold turkey even swallowing 5 norcos at once to get a xmas tree with my daughter..didnt touch methadone wd..I did soboxone cold turkey..not fun..but I last 2 weeks have know taking oxys cause i felt w.d..i believe subs remain in ur system for a long time.My doc wont let me try the pills of suboxone..but prescribes me oxys??well last night swallowed 2 15 oxys gave the rest for someone to hang on to and said dont let me have them no matter what..I took em at 8 pm and got high after 2 weeks..first time in weeks had that happy itchy feeling thought twice do i really wanna give these up cause i can keep on em..i do have chronic pain..never in a million would i thought my doc would prescribe em to me..so there is proof i do have back probs..but I have not felt the same the past 2 weeks..i wanted life back so im going back on soboxone..my doc said that dont help with pain..no not really since i have tapered my back got worse..but im not chasing my bottle every 4 to 5 hours for withdrawal..helped with back pain but still my wd is there..when they wore off..so 3 am today woke up in wd took one zanax one flexeril fell asleep .6 am woke up took tiny piece of strip..zanax flexeril..slept til 9 felt good..took another piece sob..well im up feel good no creepy crawls.doc said wait 48 hours b 4 sub..but when i went to detox once in my life from methadone..they put me on oxys after 24 hours then sub..next morning said i needed an opiod they could block??but day 3 i had sub..this was long time ago when they sorta came out..and my life has been a rock in roll pain train..says my boyfriend potentially i should be dead from speed balling and drinking..mixin stuff..but thank god im not i have a 16 year old daughter..that hates opiates..she had her wisdom teeth out..and they gave her perks wow..she had a panic attack didnt like feelin..dont get what was so great about em..I pray it remains that way. I live in maine and my doc is family physician..need pain doc..but wanna keep on the sobo path..doc says pills and strips are same and subutex is for pregnant people..but i have friends of friends that are on it for pain so whats the problem??but i can have oxys or methadone?that sounds fudged up!! I will say everyone knows there own body..so go with ur body..i did fine with taken subs ten hours after oxys..but i hit wd quick..for some reason..I am thankful for the suboxone i started 8 years ago and it saved my life..and I felt normal and life was so much better..know i need to find a doc that believes that these are for pain.I read the strips side effect was back pain..but pills were not as likely.. i have syatic nerve down my leg and it drops u to the floor..I have to start work in a month cause I landscape..and the sub.. patch 50.00 a week 7 days.. cant go in hot tubs or have heat to it..and i have to b in sun..and i have a pool so..that wont work..I was hoping someone can help me find a doc??in maine for this..good luck to all of u who read this and there is light at the end of tunnel:)I would love to have 2 docs one for subs and one methadone for a year..then cut em cold turkey!!see how they feel..bet they would think different..just a thought!!If any one knows of a good pain doc will ya let me know..I know no likes to give out docs around here..best of luck to u all!!

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Hi JesusLives! Amen to what you have said! I'm a born again Christian and I agree with you 100 percent. Praise God for working things out for you and spreading the gospel. That's our job, to serve The Lord and spread the Good News. The Lords return is any day and people need to hear the truth.

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Dear missinginmaine, I was on Oxy. For almost 11 years and b came addicted. Then, I went on methadone 2 get clean. I was on (110) and got down 2 (24). By that time I was in such bad w/d I went 2 my Dr. In tears, I wanted 2 die. He told me I had 2 choices. Either stay on the meth and increase or go on subs. I didn't want 2 go back up on meth, cause, I came so far down. The day b4 I started the subs. I took a couple of Oxy and I was buzzed. But I knew I needed 2 stay on the subs. 2 kick my habit. My advice 2 u is 2 stay on the subs. They r much longer lasting and if u r an addict, they help great with w/d and a lot of people with cravings. I've been on them awhile now and feel GREAT! Just my advise. P.S. I'm from New England 2 (Rhode Island) and I've been there, done that at 45 now.

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P.S.S. One more thing. If you're Dr. Won't put u on subs, I'd find another.

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Please I need EVERYONES ATTETION I BEG OF YOU!!! I have never taken drugs my whole entire life I was very against them and always degraded and very judgmental toward ppl that even took them ;( sadly to say I GOT A ROUGH AND RUDE AWAKENING .... I got hooked 4 years ago to hydrocodene ;( even though I was born and raised in a Christian home and always good environment something inside me went wrong!!! I listen to satan!! And myself of course!! I was depressed marriage wasn't good I felt unloved unsatisfied when I stopped going to church and hanging around this one wrong person who I LET PERSUADE ME ;( into "feeling better" she called it!! So one day I took one waiting to be a new and improved person and BAMMM I started at 1 10mg of hydrocodene then in 4 years taking 10-15 10mg hydrocodene a day!!! Needless to say only made my life WAYYYY WORSE!!! Of course everyone knows that!! But thankfully I have a wonderful husband and great family to help mentally and just got on Suboxon which was very hard to find me a doctor here in missouri ... But I the other day STARTED PRAYING SOMETHING I DO VERY OFTEN BUT I REALLY NEEDED A DOC FOR THE SOBOXON .... Well I went through roughly 20 or more docs I was at the end of page for docs that prescribe soboxon in mo, I started praying and really opening up to The Lord I said lord u know me u created me u know my hearts desire u know it all and I'm tired of chasing it and living this way which u lord did not ever intend for me to or ANY OF US TO ... I called last doc and he took me ;)) praise god!! People please I beg of u open your bibles your hearts be very sincere with The Lord and he will open up doors for u that u never even thought to imagine!! He will lead u and guide u and get you through this process of time of you in need!!! He will protect u!!! He is your father he is your healer he is the beginning and the end!!! JESUS loves you all I mean he died for alllll of us!! So that we could be forgiven, PLS just open up your hearts and ask the sinners prayer.. I'll even tell you how if for some of you that do not know him or know how to: Dear lord JESUS I ask you to come into my life and forgive me of my sins, I know you died on the cross for me and rose on the third day! I love you lord and just ask him to whatever is going on with you in your lives tell him open up to him he will hear your mourning he will hear your cries people!! He loves you he's knocking on your heart to enter in!!! Please please get out your bibles and quote scriptures against anything that has you depressed or confused because GOD will heal them because GOD is not of confusion or anxiety or anything else that's wrong he's only of love forgiveness he's the almighty GOD!! I know I will have a lot of bad mouthy replies but hey JESUS loves you and so do I..!!! So please let him in he can heal all diseases and anxiety all depression and withdraws... But as for the soboxon yes it's helped me very very much!!! And gods word alone also can do that!! But god knows were all human and by no means perfect HEY that's why he died and shed his blood that's why he still lives for U AND US AND I THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!! I don't care who u are there nothing to big that GOD CANT HANDLE!!!! He made us all of us he made this beautiful world!! Just remember satan is of the wrongs JESUS IS ALWAYS OF THE RIGHTS!!!! Let him in ;) love to all and I pray and hope this touches all of you because I was lead to write this for whoever!!! And for myself!!! Stay strong in The Lord for his love for you will NEVER FAIL!!!

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So if I'm understanding this correctly your doc will give you 120mg of Oxy a day but not Suboxone? From pain relief standpoint I can see that the oxy would be more effective than the Subxone IF you're goal is to have pain relief, however if your goal is to be off opiates then a structured regimen including taper of Suboxone sounds like a good plan. Keep in mind that if you switch from oxy to suboxone and plan to use it continually you are just essentially trading one opiate for another. Subutex which is Suboxone minus the naloxone could pheasably work for pain relief if you can get your toloerance down low. There is even a patch called Butrans that contains the active ingredient of Subutex that is used to treat pain. I hear you on the oxy withdrawals between doses. I was on Percocet for some time and used to get wd symptoms between doses which really sucked. Eventually decided to detox cold turkey which was horrendous but I survived although I don't imagine dying feeling much worse. Try to see if you can get off the opiates (do a slow taper if needed) for a number of months and give your system a chance to reset so to speak. I found that after being on Percs for a long time and then detoxing and going over 6 months without opiates that I can now manage with Norcos and they don't seem to be as bad as far as wd between doses and it is effective in a high enough dose, at least for me. As far as looking for a good doc, I would suggest doing some research and finding a good pain management doc that isn't afraid to prescribe you what you need. Two 15s of oxy 4 times a day sounds like a pretty substancial dose. It's really up to you and what you want to do, whether you want to be on opiates for the rest of your life or not. I myself have accepted the fact that I will likely need them the rest of my life to function so don't think I'm judging you at all. Do what you need to do to have good quality of life. Anyhow good luck to you and I hope this post was at least somewhat helpful. Were I not as sleep deprived as I am it may have been better put together, lol. Good luck.

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